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Leperflesh posted:Tom Clancy's “simplest MTG example” is a deck of sixty cards, with four each of ten different cards, plus twenty lands. I think a more common arrangement would be four each of nine different cards plus 24 lands, which would be 60!/(20!*4!9). If I've understood this right. Maybe I didn't. I'm not actually good at math lol. I'm also assuming all those lands are basics. With 24 basics and 9 playsets of other cards, it would be: 60!/(24!*4!9)
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Leperflesh posted:I do take issue with one thing he says in it, though: That's exactly what he meant and it's pretty clear to me. He's spelling out the assumption that Stony SIlence vs. Affinity, Rest in Peace vs. Dredge, and Rule of Law vs. Storm have to be (very nearly) equally good for that math to work, or the difference in draw rates of the first copy would be outweighed by the difference in win rate when drawn.
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Sep 22, 2021 19:49
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I think if you went back to 2010 with modern MTG knowledge you'd end up with a very different metagame and a lot more time warps.
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Oct 9, 2021 20:37
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fadam posted:You might be right, but like someone earlier in the thread said (TCID?) there’s a good chance that if modern (not the format, but like, how Magic is developed and played now versus ten years ago) MTG play went back in time, Time Warp would have needed a ban. I don't know that's true, but I do think it would've seen a lot more play than it did. It was really a different time. Fetches + Ponder + Jace TMS + Time Warp were all legal but not played together except by LSV.
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Oct 10, 2021 01:31
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Time Warp by itself kinda sucks unless you can really get on top of the extra turn. Otherwise it's explore at 5. At absolute minimum it's an explore that untaps your mana for 5. With a reasonable game plan it's often going to generate a bunch of mana, provide an extra attack step, and/or give a bunch of once a turn value on top of that. Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Alrund's didn't see action before MID Um. It did, though. Quite a lot, in often the best deck in the format.
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Uhhh that red dragon doesn't seem all that good. It does some extra damage, dependent on both untapping with it (or having a bunch of extra mana) and satisfying the condition of having non-creature spells to cast afterwards. It does not create any lasting, compounding advantage, unlike Moonveil Regent. There could be some ramp/mana generation combo kill that it creates, but I don't think it finds an easy home in the dragons, timewalk, or aggro decks.
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Oct 29, 2021 19:34
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Dias posted:It could be a finisher for Turns decks but I don't know if they need it. The creatureless Turns deck is not going to run a 4 drop creature that only does damage.
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Oct 29, 2021 19:57
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fadam posted:What was the last 4CMC+ creature that was playable in Standard that didn’t generate some amount of value ETB/was hard to remove/had haste? Technically, Moonveil Regent. It does have a death trigger that sometimes does something, though. And like Gargaroth, it's fast compounding advantage.
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Oct 29, 2021 20:29
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Now that's a card. Edit: the Ulvenwald Oddity.
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Oct 31, 2021 19:05
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Rip_Van_Winkle posted:Regular forums user Yawgmoth has passed away. Found out via a post in the Minneapolis thread after he missed D&D one night. I know he was a regular poster in this thread so I figured anyone who knew him has a right to know. Awful. Thanks for letting us know.  
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In my first game of MTG, as a kid in 95 or 96, I killed my dad with some Vampire Bats while we battled back and forth on the ground.
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Cultivator Colossus is very cool. I could see it being playable, that's a hell of an effect.
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AlternateNu posted:Memory Deluge is 2UU and puts the remaining cards at the bottom. Most decks that want a 4 mana draw 2 will be flashing back Deluge fairly often. Having a flashback on your draw card is incredibly powerful, because the second time around you're not paying a card for the effect and the first time around the draw card can draw you lands or cards to extend the game to get you there. Scattered Thoughts could still see a bit of play, due to the easier mana cost and potentially some specific synergies, but Deluge is a much more powerful card. Even for GY decks, which one you want is going to depend on the deck - Scattered Thoughts is an enabler, but Deluge is a mill/discard payoff.
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Nov 1, 2021 19:16
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Fish Of Doom posted:I don't see any cards that will effect that or even spawn new tier 1 decks. Here's 5 cards with a chance to do just that:     
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Along with the lands, we have, in no particular order Power cards: Olivia, Cultivator Colossus, Ascendant Packleader, Dig Up, Thalia, Overcharged Amalgam, Voldaren Bloodcaster, WW ajani's pridemate spirit cleric, Ulvenwald Oddity, Abrade Meta dependent or unsure of if they are power cards: Sorin, Chandra, Cemetery Prowler, Falkenwrath Forebear, Alchemist's Gambit (if bans), Dread Fugue, Runo Stromkirk, Archghoul of Thraben, Vampire's Vengeance, Dominating Vampire, Inspired Idea Ascendant Packleader and Thalia are the only cards guaranteed to see a lot of play. Abrade and the pridemate both are pretty likely to.
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mcmagic posted:It's pretty bad actually. I don't think it's playable at all. Doesn't protect itself and only good if you have 7 mana PLUS a few lands in hand? That never happens. It's obviously not generically good, but I could see a deck cheating it into play, comboing with it, and/or being an over 30 land ramp deck. The effect is extremely powerful, even if it's very hard to use on a 7 drop. quote:I actually don't like this card..... I mean it's FINE as a 2/1 for 1 but you also play it on T1 and it doesn't trigger till T4? Meh. Green doesn't have any one drops as aggressive as a savannah lions with some later upside. I agree it's not incredible, but I think that's enough.
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A big flaming stink posted:boooooo It's probably a very good thing that putting one of them into play with a bounceland in hand doesn't let the player draw their whole deck if they want to.
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  Voltaic Visionary 1R Creature - Human Wizard T: Voltaic Visionary deals 2 damage to you. Exile the top card of your library. You can play that card in this turn. Activate only whenever you could cast a sorcery. When you play an exiled card with Voltaic missionary, transform Voltaic visionary. 3/1 // Voltaic Berserker Creature - Human Berserker Voltaic Berserker can't block 4/3 th3t00t posted:Bloodvial Purveyor seems insane even with the errata. Is there something I'm missing? It's a 4 mana creature with negative value? It might see some play, if it's got both a good home and lines up well against G and/or R decks in the format, but it looks maybe playable not insane to me.
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Crackbone posted:On that note, would it be too much to ask people to actually link a card image vs. Twitter? It’s just annoying to get redirected to a site where you have to click AGAIN just to see the mana. Lone Goat posted:Yeah, probably I would strongly prefer a thread norm of no spoiler tweets. Rightclick copy image address works for Twitter too.
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Nov 3, 2021 18:12
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Leperflesh posted:I'd hesitate to enforce a "no spoiler tweet embeds" rule without a more clear mandate for one I don't think it needs to be enforced if a norm is set. LifeLynx posted:Just post the mana cost along with any tweeted spoilers, it's the easiest solution. Right click the image in the tweet, select copy image address, and post that. It's trivial.
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 Optimistic Initiate W Creature - Human Warlock Training 2W, Remove two +1/+1 counters from among creatures you control: Destroy target artifact or enchantment. 1/2
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   Panicked Spectator 1W Creature - Human Peasant Whenever Panicked Spectator or another creature you control dies, you gain 1 life. At the beginning of your end step, if you have gained 3 or more life this turn, transform Panicked Spectator. 2/2 // Giggling Culprit Creature - Human Rogue Whenever Giggling Culprit or another creature you control dies, you gain 1 life. 1B: Giggling Culprit gains deathtouch until end of turn. 3/5 
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Am I wrong or does template switch between "choose one" and "choose up to one"? Choose one forces a choice, choose up to one means you don't have to choose anything if you don't want to.
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I'm having a hard time conceptualizing the value of a blood token. It's way worse than a draw, or a loot. It's way worse than a rummage because you have to pay the mana, but you do get to choose to rummage later if you don't have anything you currently want to discard. Rummage is better than a scry 1, though it doesn't stack as well as scry X. Without synergy, maybe the blood token is a bit worse than scry 1, ~1/4th to 1/5th the value of "draw a card"? It's influenced by the spread of value of the cards within a game state, which can be aggregated to the spread of values between cards for a matchup, and aggregated again to a metagame. Rummage for 1 takes Thrill of Possibility from a bad but probably sometimes playable card (R - instant - draw 1) to a mediocre and played one (1R - instant - ~rummage 1 draw 1). Getting that without having to pay for the cycling is good. Getting it without casting a spell is can be quite bad - you lose cast triggers and most of the ways to copy it for CA. Being a token permanent and artifact is good. GY synergies have mostly moved from "you want this in your GY" to "it's not so bad to have this in your GY" in current Standard. This means that you're generally getting maybe ~1/2 "draw a card" for discarding the right cards instead of >1 "draw a card". Dead cards in a matchup still give a full card, but there's probably less of them these days. The meaningful blood token synergies are Bloodtithe Harvester, Voldaren Bloodcaster, and Falkenwrath Forebear. Maaaaaybe Sanguine Statuette. If you lean into the synergies, maybe you can get a blood token up to ~1/3 to 1/2 a "draw a card" of value?
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:I'm having a hard time conceptualizing the value of a blood token. Hmm but Deliberate is probably worse than Thrill of Possibility, despite being scry 2 which is better than 2x scry 1. Thrill of Possibility is probably more on par with Curate and maybe even better than that? I'm still confused.
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Golgari butts traces all the way back to Doran Rock in Lorwyn
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I think the set has improved a lot as spoilers have continued. I don't think it'll be the meta shakeup everyone wants as I doubt any of the pillars of the format are going away without a ban, but I think it's pretty likely there will be a good bit of movement in what's competitive or T1.
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I haven't looked at Sealed on Arena in a long time, but last time I did it was bo1 which removes the one good part of Sealed: being able to dramatically change decks during sideboarding, sometimes up to the point where you're playing different colors with a different strategy.
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Pablo Nergigante posted:MTGGoldfish has Living End just hitting the top 10 modern meta Goldfish is not a good representation of metagames because they use the 5-0/6-0 results WOTC publishes, which are designed to show artificial diversity. http://mtgtop8.com/index and https://mtgmeta.io/ are better. That said, in this case Living End is still around #10 in popularity in tournaments
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WOTC did a thing with Pioneer where they left the meta dominated by combos for long enough that everyone who wasn't interested in that left, and then banned combos repeatedly so everyone who was interested in that also left. The experiment with letting the format evolve organically but with aggressive bans showed why having a concept of who and what formats are for is valuable.
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HootTheOwl posted:Honestly I think their experiment was a success and then they stopped running it and it wasn't until then the format got really awful. The format went to poo poo when they paused with the aggressive bans, but they paused with the aggressive bans because they didn't have a concept of audience or purpose for the format.
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As someone who played a LOT of Anointed Procession, Kaya seems extremely underwhelming to me. Maybe you can do something cool with non-creature tokens, but I don't think I'd ever play her to double creature tokens.
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sit on my Facebook posted:Flooding out with a suspicious stowaway in your deck is a bummer. I keep looking at that card and wondering if it had constructed implications, it seems... so good to me, on its face I think it might see some play with VOW, tempo looks like one of the things that potentially got a good bit better.
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