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Rad Valtar posted:I completely agree with you but there is zero chance anyone in the P5 is agreeing with any system that eliminates the chance to get more then one of their teams into a playoff. No doubt. Which is why 
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Death to the NCAA.
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The current 4 team system has one major flaw, and that is that it allows more than 1 team from a conference in. Alabama and Georgia both got in a few years ago, and the media projections have both of these teams in again. Of course, a lot can change, but to some degree, the playoff selection is a self-fulfilling prophesy. I do think we'll see Alabama again, but I'm also confident that this is the year we see three different teams than usual. Four teams is unsatisfactory and 12 just seems way too many. I think people made compelling arguments for 12 earlier in the summer though, but I'd still rather see the regular season and conference championship continue to play a decisive role in playoff selection. Part of the excitement of college football is that your conference championship/playoff/bowl status can change in one game. You can lose week 5 in the NFL and still rebound and win the division. Penn State loses to Iowa in three weeks, and maybe they're out of it, even if they win out. It kind of sucks, but there's so much greater exhilaration in winning any single game in college football than pro sports. I think a 12 team playoff would be more effective if we returned to smaller conferences with round-robin scheduling. That's not going to happen though. If they were to expand to 8 or 12 teams, I think they need to install a more rigid set of conditionals: -No more than 2 teams from a conference. -Ideally, those teams shouldn't have played each other. Let's say OSU is a 1 loss team that lost to PSU. PSU plays Iowa [again] in the Big Ten Championship game and loses the rematch after winning in the regular season. Iowa goes to the playoff, but OSU might also, having not played Iowa at all. So you've got a 12-1 Iowa with 1 win and 1 loss to PSU and 11-1 OSU with a loss to PSU. PSU can't get an at-large because no one wants to see a third game in the playoffs. -Try to avoid any playoff rematches for teams that played OOC. If Auburn runs the table and finishes 12-1 in the SEC, they get an autobid as conference champ. But if they didn't win the conference, the don't get an at-large, if Penn State (who beat them) is also in the playoffs. -No carve-out for Notre Dame or Independents. Honestly, I don't think you can have as many as 12 teams and still conform to these requirements. You'll end up having 2 teams from as many as 4 or 5 conferences, plus 2 at-large G5 teams. The SEC and Big Ten will throw their weight around and try to get 3 teams in. No one wants to watch that. edit: The more interesting the playoffs are, the more people (particularly those who aren't fans) tune in. The playoff ratings have been dipping for several years. People are tired of the same teams getting in almost every year. https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-playoff-ratings-bcs/ Komet fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/BradLoganCOTE/status/1440846757160574980?s=19 Guess I'll just die then
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Sep 23, 2021 22:08
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So they're going to go from 8 to 12 to maybe 16 just like that?
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The fact that OSU and Bama can make it without even winning their division means that the margins are not that tight for them. They only play maybe 3 games a year against teams that have a legitimate shot and they can drop one of those, not win their division or conference, and still make it in. I agree ohio state shouldn't have been selected in 2016 but I don't think anyone really got screwed by it. Every other P5 team lost twice. The problem was that only 3 teams deserved to be in it, not that more than 4 did. And the next up were Penn St, Michigan, and Oklahoma, so its not as if big12 champ Iowa State got hosed there. quote:But according to you the NCAA season is tight so losing at most 2 games end it and for the most part we know who the playoff teams are like 3 weeks in. I agree with whoever posted that Notre Dame (and other independents) shouldn't be eligible for the playoffs.
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LeeMajors posted:No doubt. Which is why If you did 8 teams with each p5 conference champ then you could keep the stupid traditional bowl game tie-ins too! It would probably have the effect of making the g5 games glorified play-in games but it just seems like a way to make the most people the most happy to me.
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The Big XII will be a mediocre monstrosity stretching from Boise to Orlando.
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I don’t get why people have a problem with independents being eligible for at-large bids
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General Dog posted:I don’t get why people have a problem with independents being eligible for at-large bids My opinion is strictly based on screwing Notre Dame.
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Well i guess the g5 doesn't really need a path to the playoffs if every relevant g5 team is just gonna join the big12 anyway 
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a neat cape posted:https://twitter.com/BradLoganCOTE/status/1440846757160574980?s=19 Southern Miss has been dead and bloated since Fedora left. What do they bring to the table at all?
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a neat cape posted:https://twitter.com/BradLoganCOTE/status/1440846757160574980?s=19 Seems weird to me that they’d do expansion in two stages just a few weeks apart.
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Seriously, Southern Miss? Bring in the Aztecs, I'd take a roadie to San Diego.
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And expanded playoff provides more meaningful games between good teams and novel matchups and because I like football I think that’s good. Maybe if you don’t actually like football that would be bad.
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Man I thought about going to maybe the last ever Texas/TTU in-conference game but fuuuuuuuuuuck that 11 AM kickoff timea neat cape posted:https://twitter.com/BradLoganCOTE/status/1440846757160574980?s=19 I am so loving glad we are getting out of this horrible frankenstein conference
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Sep 23, 2021 22:29
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I feel like being proud of being a bottom feeder in a good conference is weird
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General Dog posted:I don’t get why people have a problem with independents being eligible for at-large bids they just don't like notre dame it is never about notre dame's almost always actually good resume Which is shortsighted because Alabama is going to turn someone into paste in the first round anyway and it's way more fun when it's Notre Dame.
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Just had to repeat it on this page the NFL sucks and is boring.
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I'd rather suck in the SEC than suck maybe slightly less in (what's left of) the Big 12
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I would like for the G5 to get a guaranteed slot so my G5 school can get more money and our football program be the biggest deal. Also I'm offended my Sun Belt school isn't being courted by the AAC or Big12. gently caress you guys we didn't want you either anyway.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I feel like being proud of being a bottom feeder in a good conference is weird I look forward to it. *ahem* S-E-C S-E-C
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General Dog posted:I don’t get why people have a problem with independents being eligible for at-large bids I don't really think anyone should be in the playoffs unless they're in a power conference and generally unless they win that power conference so that includes independents, to me. Notre Dame at least basically plays a p5 schedule, so its not really a major problem or anything, but its just kind of pointlessly clunky if they're keeping a conference champ out with the same record. I. M. Gei posted:I'd rather suck in the SEC than suck maybe slightly less in (what's left of) the Big 12 same. also texas will at some point, perhaps even in our lifetimes, not suck. Probably. G-Hawk fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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CJ Stroud's shoulder is apparently bad enough we're sitting him against Akron. Henderson gonna go off again.
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TheGreyGhost posted:Henderson gonna go off again. Dude is gonna go off every week no matter what. It is in no way surprising he went to OSU over VT but man it always sucks watching top VA talent go kill it somewhere else esp when we were high on him too.
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Wiltsghost posted:Seriously, Southern Miss? Bring in the Aztecs, I'd take a roadie to San Diego. We have good tacos and weather and a new stadium!
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TheGreyGhost posted:CJ Stroud's shoulder is apparently bad enough we're sitting him against Akron. Thank god Master Teague got benched. Dude had Trent Richardson type vision. I still think Williams will also be a good back next to Henderson.
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Rad Valtar posted:Thank god Master Teague got benched. Dude had Trent Richardson type vision. I still think Williams will also be a good back next to Henderson. Williams is literally just what I wanted out of Teague--decent speed but just runs like an angry bag of hammers. As bad as Teague's vision is, the thing that makes me the craziest is just how slow he is to the line anymore. Listening to Tim Brando's insanely lovely call last week where they spent all the time complaining about "kids these days" and wondered where Master Teague was made me realize how happy I am that we don't seem to be doing the Urban Meyer "he's a senior so he plays" bullshit right now. A world where we start Teague and the oldest LBs on the team might put me in the hospital this year.
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I. M. Gei posted:I'd rather suck in the SEC than suck maybe slightly less in (what's left of) the Big 12 +1 At first I was wondering why in the gently caress you would leave the Big 12, only to see how much of a clownshow it would end up as. Goddamn.
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I. M. Gei posted:I'd rather suck in the SEC than suck maybe slightly less in (what's left of) the Big 12 Might be time to prophylactically form a support group with some Tennessee, Arky, South Carolina, and Kentucky fans.
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LeeMajors posted:Might be time to prophylactically form a support group with some Tennessee, Arky, South Carolina, and Kentucky fans. Wow there was more here than I expected. LSU/Auburn (three times)/Texas/Florida/South Carolina/Georgia Will Muschamp appreciation stations in the SEC once Texas joins. Obviously as an assistant for most of those. e: Oh my god quote:On February 3, 2021, Georgia head coach Kirby Smart announced that Muschamp had been hired as an analyst. Smart claimed Muschamp would work with the defense and "help coach the coaches." Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Sep 23, 2021 |
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Robert Facepalmer posted:+1 The additions the conference had made thus far are fairly unimpeachable. If OU and Texas’ eventual departure was inevitable, what they’ve done since has made the best out of a bad situation.
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Grittybeard posted:Wow there was more here than I expected. Oh I meant mostly just from the sucking in the SEC And How Fulfilling It Really Is, but I didn't even think about the Muschamp angle. To your edit, he loving played Safety at UGA lol
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boop the snoot posted:This is why eight teams is a solid compromise imho. No at-larges would be hilarious if only for the Texas / Oklahoma schadenfreude.
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General Dog posted:The additions the conference had made thus far are fairly unimpeachable. Conferences were a fuckin' mistake.
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Why doesn't anyone want our basketball or football https://twitter.com/GoAztecs/status/1440801597051719684?s=19
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a neat cape posted:Why doesn't anyone want our basketball or football I think your location is just a dealbreaker other than the Pac 12, who obviously won't be interested unless a whole lot of stuff goes sideways. Unless the AAC takes up my idea and adds four western teams and just figures things out while adding to their crazy spread.
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Robert Facepalmer posted:Then you have Boise State potentially coming into the fold. I will say, the potential of them having a big boy schedule and just getting absolutely annihilated year in, year out is delicious, but I am sure there will be (even more) scheduling shenanigans to ensure high rankings. I think you highly overestimate the skill level of most conferences outside the top
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Grittybeard posted:I think your location is just a dealbreaker other than the Pac 12, who obviously won't be interested unless a whole lot of stuff goes sideways. I could buy the location thing if not for BOISE
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