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T Bowl
Feb 6, 2006

Shut up DUMMY
gently caress most Chris Nolan movies especially Inception.

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Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

kntfkr posted:

"Joe Dirt is more entertaining than Citizen Kane, ergo Joe Dirt is the better film."

~Siskles Ebert

Citizen Kane is super entertaining to me

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

A Fancy Hat posted:

The first "Frozen" is actually a great movie and is a top tier Disney animated film. Like, top 10 list easily.

Nah, it's pretty mediocre. It's a lot of bland, meandering nothing with a showstopper number in the middle.

kntfkr posted:

yes! James Bond just doesn't work as straight faced action cuz the whole shtick is "hi, I'm James Bond, rock n roll super spy, here's my card, find me on the web using AOL keyword, James Bond." and it's fun because there's no such thing as a rock n roll spy and hell yup octopussy. The whole tone of the Daniel Craig movies is "OK u guys, I'm being super cereal this time." and the wackiest poo poo they'll attempt is like the bad guy has a lazy eye. it feels like the scripts were written in Microsoft Excel by accountants. gently caress the current Bond era

He was aight in layer cake

Casino Royale is almost OK, they play around with it some and it's a fresh enough take to get away with it, but good christ it just keeps going. Everything since then is just dire though.

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

kntfkr posted:

yes! James Bond just doesn't work as straight faced action cuz the whole shtick is "hi, I'm James Bond, rock n roll super spy, here's my card, find me on the web using AOL keyword, James Bond." and it's fun because there's no such thing as a rock n roll spy and hell yup octopussy. The whole tone of the Daniel Craig movies is "OK u guys, I'm being super cereal this time." and the wackiest poo poo they'll attempt is like the bad guy has a lazy eye. it feels like the scripts were written in Microsoft Excel by accountants. gently caress the current Bond era

He was aight in layer cake

the longer this era has gone on the less appealing its been. Casino Royale was legit and a nice breath of fresh air but each subsequent movie has actually made me like it less. then you get a movie like Spectre that wants to be a little silly but you've already established that NO this is the super serious dour bond so it's like are the film makers expecting us to take this turd with Austin Powers plot points seriously, or is it supposed to be camp?

At least in the Dalton era when they tried to be marginally more serious than the Moore era they still started with poo poo like a dudes head inflating like a balloon or a car on skis with lasers so you knew exactly where you stood

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Gone Girl was terrible. Ben Affleck has a secret man cave with forbidden toys such as... the board game Dominion that has no single player option? Does he fear his wife will see him enjoying card art? She learns how to fake a crime scene by reading Helter Skelter, but extensive details about a trial in 1970 wouldn't help much. In a case covered by national media she is sent home from a hospital still covered in blood.

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Jennifer lawrence sucked in everything but winters boner and maybe silver linings playboy

American hustle sucked a lot

Joy was one of the worst movies ive ever seen in my life.


All movie review sites are full of paid shills now, its just part of the marketing budget now. So much truly awful poo poo gets an 8 on imbd and 100 on RT.

Im also shocked that my close personal friends RLM liked the new suicide squad, i wouldn't be surprised if they got paid to make that video. I wouldn't blame them though.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Actually if a movie has low audience scores and high critic scores on RT it's guaranteed to loving own because audiences legit get angry when movies don't do what they want them to like it's a product they're buying for a function instead of art created by human beings.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Actually if a movie has low audience scores and high critic scores on RT it's guaranteed to loving own because audiences legit get angry when movies don't do what they want them to like it's a product they're buying for a function instead of art created by human beings.

That's true for The Witch

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Movies like Midsommer, The Lighthouse, The Witch, The Green Knight, Hereditary, Possessor, The Favourite, Roma, Mandy, etc. etc. all have comparatively lower audience scores and all own extremely.

Audiences just tend to hate anything that fucks with their expectations in serious ways instead of pleasant "I didn't expect that!" twists.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Hyrax Attack! posted:

That's true for The Witch

It's true for a lot of "weird" stuff. It's practically a rule of mine that never fails, I think the only recently example of this that wasn't the case was Malignant, but otherwise it's a near 100% track record.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Casting a PoC actor as James Bond is, I think, a bad idea because the core of the franchise is a fundamentally imperialist, sexist relic. I have no doubt there are dozens of actors of every race and gender identity who could play the role well, but it would be an exercise in whitewashing, so to speak.

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

Voltage posted:

All movie review sites are full of paid shills now, its just part of the marketing budget now. So much truly awful poo poo gets an 8 on imbd and 100 on RT.

Im also shocked that my close personal friends RLM liked the new suicide squad, i wouldn't be surprised if they got paid to make that video. I wouldn't blame them though.

More than one reviewer I trusted gave the 2018 predator an overwhelmingly positive review and when I left the theater I learned that I had to trust my instincts from now on

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

I think the mechanism behind it is that normally if people don't like a movie or find it meh, they won't really have much of a response besides "whatever" and give it a middling score or not bother, but movies like the ones I listed make people MAD, like they legit leave the theater frothing "That was such poo poo, I hated it so MUCH." because the film patently refused to indulge them in the exact ways they wanted. They then rush to RT or IMDB to 1 vote that poo poo as hard as possible. Just scads of enraged people.

Those movies unfailing are crazy in some way or having endings/moments that gut punch you or jerk you around mentally nonstop.

Killing of a Sacred Deer is one of the biggest examples of this, any Yorgos Lanthimos really, it's a film predicated on the idea of brutally manipulating the audience into visceral discomfort and denying them the familiar structure and feeling they're desperately looking for. That poo poo owns, I love when a movie manages to be so well crafted that it can tangibly squirm around inside your guts.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Casting a PoC actor as James Bond is, I think, a bad idea because the core of the franchise is a fundamentally imperialist, sexist relic. I have no doubt there are dozens of actors of every race and gender identity who could play the role well, but it would be an exercise in whitewashing, so to speak.

You can't have a James Bond that would get shot on sight in america.

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:
First person should be the default perspective for films.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Most of the praise that movie got was post hoc rationalizations by people who didn't want to admit they only enjoyed it because they got to see Scarlet Johansson starkers.

On the other hand, the bit where she realises she doesn't have a vagina is the funniest scene of the decade, plus her best performance that I've seen.

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Nightcrawler should have won best picture.

Seconded.

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

Under the Skin owns and is another one of those movies.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
A Quiet Place is a stupid poo poo movie that breaks its own logic and world constantly and has characters making the dumbest goddamn decisions, why THE gently caress was it lauded so hard?!

Duuuurrrr, WUT IZ THERE WEEKNUS?! *Circle a few times for the dummies in back like you're goddamn Laguerta*

runnypoops
Mar 26, 2016

been there. done that. prove yourself to me.
The quiet place was also bad cuz it extended Jim Halpert’s career. GROSS!

T Bowl
Feb 6, 2006

Shut up DUMMY

Das Boo posted:

A Quiet Place is a stupid poo poo movie that breaks its own logic and world constantly and has characters making the dumbest goddamn decisions, why THE gently caress was it lauded so hard?!

Duuuurrrr, WUT IZ THERE WEEKNUS?! *Circle a few times for the dummies in back like you're goddamn Laguerta*

Eh, I get you but truthfully 90% of horror/sci fi has almost no logic and breaks their own rules. Just gotta suspend the disbelief and enjoy that ride. It was ok.

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.

T Bowl posted:

Eh, I get you but truthfully 90% of horror/sci fi has almost no logic and breaks their own rules. Just gotta suspend the disbelief and enjoy that ride. It was ok.

It was enough to take me out of the movie multiple times. Particularly in the grain silo where the grain is either quicksand or stable enough to support the kids with a metal sheet on top of them with a monster on top of that in the same scene.

I enjoy the hell of of garbo horror like Jason X and Sleepaway Camp, but I kept hearing about how smart and clever AQP was before I saw it. I was expecting smart horror because I was told that's what I was going to see.

Also Return of the Living Dead is one of the smartest horror scripts ever conceived and leagues better than any of the Romero films.

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

Das Boo posted:



I enjoy the hell of of garbo horror like Jason X and Sleepaway Camp, but I kept hearing about how smart and clever AQP was before I saw it. I was expecting smart horror because I was told that's what I was going to see.

If anyone sells a movie to me as being so smart and clever it always seems like a red flag. Cabin in the Woods was okay but it wasn't this genius deconstruction of horror that everyone seemed to think it was (also Joss Whedon style dialog is still one of the worst things to happen to movies)

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

T Bowl posted:

gently caress most Chris Nolan movies especially Inception.

Agreed but Dunkirk was actually legit good and I didn't know that Chris Nolan had that subtlety in him.

BigSexy
Apr 21, 2020
true lies is the best action movie all time

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH

BigSexy posted:

true lies is the best action movie all time

True lies definitely owns


The Thing is the greatest film ever made


That movie mandy with nic cage is a terrible movie and a complete waste of time and you can huff your own farts if you think otherwise

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

BigSexy posted:

true lies is the best action movie all time

Agreed the harrier bridge scene with real jets owns, and Tom Arnold is fun but dang wish they'd had a generic white guy terror group like in Die Hard instead of "crimson jihad"

The Sega Genesis game was a surprisingly great movie adaptation that was super violent. Tom Arnold would yell at Arnold if he shot civilians, as we gotta take care of the taxpayers in an election year, but if he kept it below three per mission it wasn't a failure.

Hyrax Attack! fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Oct 7, 2021

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
There hasn't been a movie as good as Casablanca since Casablanca.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
Bringing Up Baby is funnier than pretty much anything else that has come out in the last 90 years.

Fiddler on the Reef
Apr 29, 2011


The 1984 version of Dune was very... *very* good.

runnypoops
Mar 26, 2016

been there. done that. prove yourself to me.
Quentin Tarantino hasn’t made a good movie since Kill Bill Vol 1

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Citizen Kane is super entertaining to me

that's cuz you're a rosebud mega fan

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

Jurassic Park isn't half as smart as it thinks it is, and Jeff Goldblum is insufferable in it.

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?
Grumpy Luke in The Last Jedi was the best part

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Das Boo posted:

Also Return of the Living Dead is one of the smartest horror scripts ever conceived and leagues better than any of the Romero films.

Oh good, you said this before I could. Thanks :success: I’d like to add it also has one of the best movie soundtracks of all time. Burn the Flames by Roky Erickson is my current ringtone for this month.


Titanic is a legit great movie if you’re a Titanic nerd like I was when I was a kid and enjoyed seeing the ship as it was painstakingly recreated to the letter. I watch it more for the people of the day and how life was in 1912 rather than for the Jack and Rose story (which isn’t as bad as people make it out to be, either). Also, the ensemble cast is incredible, and I’ll watch anything with Billy Zane in it.

The Klowner
Apr 20, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
All of these opinions are loving dogshit, except the ones I agree with, those are good

my unpopular opinion is uhhhh the graduate sucks. and the breakfast club is lame too

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

PeterCat posted:

Jurassic Park isn't half as smart as it thinks it is, and Jeff Goldblum is insufferable in it.

Jurassic Park is the only good Jurassic Park movie. The rest are dogshit, and the most recent one was just insulting to my intelligence (which isn’t saying much HEY YO).

runnypoops
Mar 26, 2016

been there. done that. prove yourself to me.
Theres way too much sexual assault in john hughes movies

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

M Knight Shyamalan's Old is the most compelling movie I've seen in a while. It is completely hilarious and unbearably stupid but it has bold creative moves and is overall interesting and memorable in its insanity. It approaches some kind of auteur piece, there's an obvious passion involved.

T Bowl
Feb 6, 2006

Shut up DUMMY

runnypoops posted:

Theres way too much sexual assault in john hughes movies

Revenge of the Nerds makes comedy out of rape.. and several other things that are bad.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
It also glorifies nerds, when nerds are in fact bad and have helped ruin the world and taken all of its capital for themselves. I'd totally watch a revenge of the jocks movie.

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Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

T Bowl posted:

Revenge of the Nerds makes comedy out of rape.. and several other things that are bad.

The vengeance of a nerd can be terrible indeed.

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