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The Kraid fight is so loving good. I love how it expects you to mix up all of your techniques. The basic way to damage him is missile spam, which opens his mouth and deals the most damage, that requires the free aim. If you keep angling the shots correctly, you can just missile his claws and keep shooting, which also replenishes your missiles, so you'll probably never run out. You can KEEP damaging him while he regurgitates stuff (the mouth is open after all), it's just harder - but it's better to replenish even more missiles here, but it's not just a matter of free-aiming again, because you can't shoot the fireballs, so this is now a part that demands mobility while you're shooting. Because you just got the triple beam, it's not that hard to aim correctly. Then, in the second phase, suddenly the best course of action is the charge beam, as it pierces his gribblies and deals damage on the side, but it's better to use missiles when he does the purple flame attack. Finally, the spider grip is used to get up to the damage spot, missiles against claws returns like in the first phase, and you get a melee counter to deal massive damage and allow yourself to stay up there, allowing only your skill to dictate if you have to do the bellybutton part more than once. And overall, once you've learned how to apply all of those techniques, the fight is over in less than a minute. Absolute masterclass in boss design imo. skaianDestiny posted:It's even worse if you do the bomb skip.
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I love the Kraid fight. You gotta start learning what the game wants you to learn to beat him. The first phase is mostly a test about if you can balance free aiming and moving, but the second has three separate, unique ways you can beat his rear end. You can climb the spikes, classic Metroid style, you can shoot him in the gut with charge shots until the thing comes down, or you can show off your obsessive exploration and/or sequence-breaking prowess and bomb his stomachanus and skip the phase entirely. The swipe being parryable but the straight punch not just makes it even better.
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Oct 28, 2021 12:20
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Simply Simon posted:holy poo poo they programmed that in?! I immediately want to replay the game to find these kind of things! Yeah, there's a lot of "sequence breaks" that are actually intentional and they designed around them to actually give you little bonuses for them.
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Oct 28, 2021 18:06
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The Lone Badger posted:Wasn't that the boss where you had to repeatedly slide under it? Yeah, spotting the gap was the intention, but a lot of folks spot that the butt just above there looks fleshy and weakpoint-ish and try shooting that instead.
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Fun fact: if you do the sequence breaks to get Bombs before Kraid, you can also pick up Flash Shift early as well. It helps with Kraid’s fireballs.
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Oct 29, 2021 23:32
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Samus Aran: part human, part chozo, part metroid, part X, part blink dog...
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This is the moment I was waiting for, when the game explicitly calls the space jump out as an upgrade 
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Oct 30, 2021 00:11
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Watching LPs of this are giving me chances to see things that I didn't notice while playing. Or at least didn't notice immediately. Like the boss that had the cloaking device had a big chozo statue in the background but that jerk ate it before you got there. The chozo must have learned since while the first one was in a boss arena sized room this one is in a room too small to fit a boss so you can walk right in and grab it.
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Oct 30, 2021 01:41
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im only like halfway through the new ep: you can jump with the speed boost, you dont need to shinespark (in fact, there's lots of puzzles that require it)
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Oct 30, 2021 02:04
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:im only like halfway through the new ep: you can jump with the speed boost, you dont need to shinespark (in fact, there's lots of puzzles that require it) Yeah the speed booster is WAY more versatile in Dread than ever before, even though you're left to learn this yourself.
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Oct 30, 2021 03:17
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Gotta say, I'm impressed by Nat semi-consistently* managing to counter the EMMIs; then he gets caught again five seconds later. It really does seem the best approach to EMMIs is to plan the route and then haul rear end as fast as possible, or simply RUN reactively if a route is unknown. (Of course this EMMI has the speed booster so the strategy has problems) *he pulled two counters by now, not counting the tutorial one Marluxia posted:This is the moment I was waiting for, when the game explicitly calls the space jump out as an upgrade Let's Slay > Two Decades In The Making - Space Jump Lamentation Station Bruceski posted:Samus Aran: part human, part chozo, part metroid, part X, part blink dog... All badass.
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Oct 30, 2021 03:30
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I think Nat forgot you can duck as Samus. Makes killing those guys that shoot at angles super easy.
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Oct 30, 2021 04:29
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Samus gets Fox Mccloud's dash ability from Smash Melee.
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Oct 30, 2021 05:01
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SugarAddict posted:Samus gets Fox Mccloud's dash ability from Smash Melee.
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I was so sure that statue was going to be a boss when I saw it in the thumbnail.
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Same, but what I'm thinking now is that they'll show us a few more and then, later on when we've just got used to them being set dressing, that one will turn out to be a boss fight.
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I hated the Yellow E.M.M.I. so goddamn much. I don't think any of the other ones gave me nearly as much trouble as that one did.
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Nov 2, 2021 01:07
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One of these days Nat will remember that you can shoot missiles at things other than enemies.
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Nov 2, 2021 01:33
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The Speed Booster and Shinespark are so good in this game. I cannot overstate this fact to anyone who hasn't experienced it.
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Ok. after watching though the video it seems like it's not out of sync? SugarAddict fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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Nov 2, 2021 02:09
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Zurai posted:One of these days Nat will remember that you can shoot missiles at things other than enemies. Like the game said at the start.
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Nov 2, 2021 02:49
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Ahh overthinking a speed booster puzzle.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Ahh overthinking a speed booster puzzle. Looks like it mostly comes from not knowing the new controls for it, which are hella smoother. Like jumping, wall jumps, slides, and morph ball transitions keeping the speed boost.
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Nov 2, 2021 04:34
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Zurai posted:One of these days Nat will remember that you can shoot missiles at things other than enemies. It's kinda driving me crazy that Nat is just shooting at everything with the beam, when that isn't gonna reveal poo poo beside beam blocks, ngl
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Nov 2, 2021 05:08
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On the other hand, Nat is the EMMI counter whisperer, that was insane. He's just hitting the counter button at random times and that's the actual best strategy, isn't he?
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Nov 2, 2021 05:42
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Adam mentioned the space jump in yellow text, so that's basically confirmed to be in the game, too? Combined with the apparent grapple beam points, Samus has quite a lot of mobility in this game. I appreciate that the flash shift will likely not be completely obsoleted by the space jump.
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Nov 2, 2021 10:11
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Marluxia posted:It's kinda driving me crazy that Nat is just shooting at everything with the beam, when that isn't gonna reveal poo poo beside beam blocks, ngl In my defense, I instantly forgot that missiles revealed things that the beam didn't.
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W.T. Fits posted:I hated the Yellow E.M.M.I. so goddamn much. I don't think any of the other ones gave me nearly as much trouble as that one did. skaianDestiny posted:Looks like it mostly comes from not knowing the new controls for it, which are hella smoother. Like jumping, wall jumps, slides, and morph ball transitions keeping the speed boost. Torrannor posted:Adam mentioned the space jump in yellow text, so that's basically confirmed to be in the game, too? Combined with the apparent grapple beam points, Samus has quite a lot of mobility in this game. I appreciate that the flash shift will likely not be completely obsoleted by the space jump. Natural 20 posted:In my defense, I instantly forgot that missiles revealed things that the beam didn't.
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Simply Simon posted:how is that a defense lmao I actually find it understandable. Nat's going through the game at a pace and timing that's almost painfully slow, taking weeks to get where some people got to by dinnertime of release day. Forgetting smaller new things like "Missiles reveal blocks" isn't surprising. What is surprising is that stuff like that doesn't happen more often.
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Simply Simon posted:Flash Shift is insanely good for combat Flash Shift is insanely good even for traversal.
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Simply Simon posted:Flash Shift is insanely good for combat The only issue I have with flash shift in combat is it doesn't give i-frames. I know honestly it doesnt make sense for being able to ignore a wall of damage just because you're moving really fast, but it just seems to break some unspoken rule of dodge abilities.
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FeyerbrandX posted:The only issue I have with flash shift in combat is it doesn't give i-frames. I know honestly it doesnt make sense for being able to ignore a wall of damage just because you're moving really fast, but it just seems to break some unspoken rule of dodge abilities. Think of it more like a Megaman X dash. Plus if it did have i-frames than the recharge timer on it would have had to have been drastically increased to try and balance it.
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It's cool you can Shinepark even when in the Morph Ball form. Makes me wonder if there's any cool beam tricks like in Super, or the Crystal Flash. Was there anything like that in Fusion? It'd make sense lorewise if there wasn't what with being so damaged from the X infection that even her Power Suit didn't survive all the way, but gameplay wise it would be something of a letdown.
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If you want to figure out "how do I solve this" for shinespark puzzles without looking up full answers there are a couple of new tricks this game has that are worth knowing. I'll mention that people have found alternate methods for a lot of them depending on personal skillset, in "you can build up speed above the item or below, then figure out how to get that where it needs to be" style. Note that none of this is mandatory for game completion, just 100% --To be clear, building up speed still needs a flat straightway. --Once you're moving at block-breaking speed, you keep it when walljumping or sliding. This can easily be misunderstood; I don't mean storing a shinespark and moving around while purple, I mean that you can sonic pinball your way off a wall and keep running the other direction. Sliding into a tunnel will have you roll at speed and automatically unmorph when you come out the other side. Basically, movement is extremely fluid and if you know what's ahead you can do some absurd things.
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Bruceski posted:If you want to figure out "how do I solve this" for shinespark puzzles without looking up full answers there are a couple of new tricks this game has that are worth knowing. I'll mention that people have found alternate methods for a lot of them depending on personal skillset, in "you can build up speed above the item or below, then figure out how to get that where it needs to be" style. What's nice about this is it was so fluid that I noticed a few times when hauling rear end and hopping that speed was maintained, but in those instances I was actually planning on stopping at or near where I landed so I never really noticed. It took like, 5 videos and multiple rewatches to get that the game expected you to do that for a few items. Another nice thing about the game I noticed is that there's a ton of +2 missile tanks, theres one or two +10 on the main path to keep you competitive if you're not going out of your way, but most fiendish puzzles are the +10 prizes
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They really seem to pile the abilities on in this game. Maybe it is just me not being good at Metroid, but I don't remember accumulating this much this fast before.
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Gnoman posted:They really seem to pile the abilities on in this game. Maybe it is just me not being good at Metroid, but I don't remember accumulating this much this fast before. I agree with this, the pacing of major upgrades in this game felt really fast to me, it felt like it didn't give a lot of time to appreciate them properly before the next one came along. There's also the phenomenon Mark Brown observed (video contains full game spoilers, Nat don't look): where the game keeps pushing you toward progress, by funnelling you with one-way paths and putting the places you need to use upgrades very close to where you get them through the use of well-placed teleporters. It's interesting, because in some ways this is really good design for the pacing and keeps you feeling like you're on the right track, but on another it feels a bit like being spoon-fed.
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