Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

Here's something that's been bothering me for some time now. Does anyone know the significance of the "Toy Dog"?

AbstractNapper posted:

I think this is probably one of things the developers didn't get to fully complete. In the code, her toy dog, candy and the crying doll from the Replicant's hideout, are all categorized as Non-Replicant clues. This means they are also sorted as such in KIA using the Repicant/Non Replicant filter --which is another useful mechanic to sort out clues for suspects and decide whether they are human or not.

But McCoy will find those clues whether Lucy is human or not. Maybe they were supposed to be weak clues but not evidence she's human. Like thrown in to make sure the player won't know right off-hand her true nature, just by picking those up.

The toy dog in particular shows a love for animals, which is more likely found in humans (however Replicant Lucy also cares for Runciter's animals and Nexus-6 are more than capable of showing emotions, at least in the movie and the game). It's also a reminder that Lucy is basically still a small kid. The toy doll is again like that but, in addition, probably has connection to her being abused and traumatized by Runciter and others Off-World, and having suppressed feelings about having a baby of her own (indicated by her VK test).

I wanted to make these clues more consistent, but not deterministic, with her nature in the Restored Content. However, I'm also weary about changing too much, especially when other pending restoration stuff are more obvious and get higher priority, so that's not yet a decided plan that's going to happen.

AbstractNapper posted:

It can go a bit differently if McCoy is "Polite" and ehrm... it should also go that way if McCoy is a Replicant sympathiser but I guess the pertinent variable is not updated at that point as I expected. Something for me to fix....

AbstractNapper posted:

Provided that you know Lucy is Replicant in your playthrough you can use the debugger to force her to be the hunted. It should be safe enough to do it, meaning it's not corrupting anything that can lead to weird behaviour -- that I can tell. These variables are all set at the beginning of the game so you can check and change at the start of a playthrough -- ie. once McCoy arrives outside Runciter's.


To check who is to be hunted in Act 3:

code:

var 40
1: Dektora
2: Gordo
3: Lucy

To check if Lucy is Replicant (1 is Replicant, 0 is human)

code:

flag 46

Kibayasu posted:

Well even ignoring the (apparent) ages that bomb dialogue sure is a moment.

AbstractNapper posted:

Does the Strategy Guide not mention the option to meet Runciter during Act 4? I browsed through it quickly and it seems to skip that entirely. There's a couple of ways that meeting can go. You kind of let him off easy

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

Don't tell me that I could have made the body count higher!

Kibayasu posted:

Well even ignoring the (apparent) ages that bomb dialogue sure is a moment.

sb hermit posted:

and if a ten ton truck
kills the both of us
to die by your side
well, the pleasure
the privilege
is mine

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

I'm not sure whether or not McCoy feels that way.

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

Bonus Videos
Defending The Hotel Owner - We can help the hotel manager....
Not Our Problem - ...Or we could leave him too it.

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

Arresting Larry - Part one? We can arrest Crazy Legs Larry for his involvement with the replicants and CARS. We can find more evidence to arrest him later on, depending on the circumstances, which I will explore when I get there. We can also speak to him while he is detained.

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

Gordo Talking About Dektora & Lucy - As far as I know, there are five topics of conversation that we can have with Gordo and we have already seen the other three,

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

Dektora (Hunted) - Retirement. - Why?

AbstractNapper posted:

An unrestored scene here is McCoy recognizing Leon from posters he's seen on the Police HQ and Leon attacks him (probably either a game over or McCoy would pass out, maybe lose health -- something either for User Choice mode or Surly)

AbstractNapper posted:

I just rechecked the requirements to make Dektora be the one at the end with McCoy. The game is a bit too demanding for McCoy to actually befriend her. Just letting her go might not cut it. It needs 55 points of friendliness, and it will play an extra bit of dialogue about Clovis being a jealous person and dangerous. And oddly at 59 points it will also play the love theme music during that dialogue.
Yet unrestored content for Dektora is her human ending with McCoy and also a meeting with her during Act 4 (if McCoy had befriended her) that has different dialogue depending on whether she is human or a Replicant. I don't think I figured where this meeting is supposed to take place. Most likely underground at the abandoned station near Nightclub Row. I think it would have helped flesh out more the relationship between the two -- at least make it somewhat more credible.

quote:

actorFriendliness(0, 3) = 50

AbstractNapper posted:

Friendliness is not symmetric. It's basically different when it's McCoy towards someone else (and usually it stays 50 which is the starting value for most characters throughout the game and does not matter for much), and another value for that someone else towards McCoy, which is the one that matters and the one changing with McCoy's actions and other factors.

So for Dektora you should check:

code:

friend 3 0

Technical stuff to get Dektora's affection:
As far as I can tell (without testing to confirm) Dektora starts of with 50 friendliness for McCoy, whether she's Rep or human.

• You don't want affection towards Lucy so don't warn Lucy about Crystal --which is the final obligatory prerequisite to win her affection (but not the only prerequisite!). Affection towards Lucy will close off the Dektora route.
  
• First time entering her room (+5, if she does not know McCoy is Blade Runner)**.
  
• Subsequent visits deduct 2 points (-2)
  
• Asking about the vase:
  • (+2) points if Dektora is somewhat friendly at the time (>50)
    
  • (-2) points else
• Checking the vanity drawer while she's there (-2)
  
• Ask about her Belt (-1)
  
• Ask about dark sedan (-3)
  
• Warn about Steele (+5)
  
• Hunt Dektora and let her go (+5). It is the final and obligatory prerequisite for her.
  

(Unrestored, so won't matter for you, but I include it for trivia/completeness):

• If you had warned Izo (human or Replicant), or helped him (as Replicant) in Act 3 (blocking Steele does not count for this), it would have been +10 points upon first time entering Dektora's room.
  
• If you ask her about the Moonbus it's -5 points, if she's Replicant, or -3 is she's human.
  

**. People who can find out directly that McCoy is a Blade Runner are Gordo (if you talk to him at Chinatown in Act 1), Zuben (with a random chance if you let him go at the warehouse) and Sebastian (when you interrogate him for long enough). It's a bit odd since McCoy pretty much randomly says it even to passer-bys, but I guess it's adjusted that way for gameplay purposes. Anyway, if Dektora "meets" up with these people (or people who have met these people) and if they exchange this clue then she'll get it. So it's sort of random-ish, since these people, unless they're dead, execute some random routes and may meet at locations (it all happens in the background, McCoy won't actually witness any of such meetings).

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

Edit: I've just recorded the scene involving pulling out the gun at Runciters in the fourth act, that was probably the darkest dialogue of all in the game.

AbstractNapper posted:

Indeed. I can't tell which version of the dialogue you got, but this can also vary. If you met up with Zuben previously (after Act 1) and asked him specifically about Runciter, then McCoy will address that info in his speech here, which will be a bit longer if Lucy is Replicant too. Otherwise, if you got the envelope with the money from the twin's apartment it will be about that. And if you missed both, the speech will be cut short.

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

Edit: I'm most likely going to be in Scotland for a few days at the end of this week, I'm just waiting on details of where and if I'm able to visit. A couple of people from other LP's may remember that one of my daughters has been suffering from some big health issues throughout most of last year, she had an incident last week and she's currently in hospital awaiting a transfer to one of two hospitals in Glasgow. If I'm going up then there won't be any new recordings happening until next week. If I'm not going up then I'll probably be doing lots of recordings to keep me busy.

AbstractNapper posted:

Wishing you courage and my best to your daughter, hoping you'll get over any troubles.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

The other two depend on Steele's status and how you deal with Clovis in the end, but only one of them is triggering.

AbstractNapper posted:

The one that won't trigger is because it needs McCoy to be set as "helping Replicants" when he arrives at the Kipple and then, after he kills Steele because she's in his way and attacks him in this scenario, he has to turn on the Replicants; so eg. when Sadik asks him to find the reactor core McCoy shoots him instead, or McCoy finds the core, gives it to Sadik and makes it in the moonbus and then turns on the Reps killing everyone inside.

If you kill Sadik outside, then you'll only find Clovis inside, dying on the bunk bed, and it won't matter if you let him die or not. So it's the easiest one to accomplish.
Otherwise you have to deal with everyone that is inside the moonbus and there can be a lot of people attacking McCoy so you'll have to be quite fast to get them before they get you.

AbstractNapper posted:

I think you have all the arrests right. There are a few that are yet unrestored content (eg. involving killing human Dektora) but there's little point to list them.

For deaths:

• Act 2: There are a few other ways to die from the bomb at Moraji's.
  • One is just waiting around in the lab
    
  • the other is exiting but staying close to the door so McCoy gets hit by the blast radius.
• Act 3: There's a possible death when hunting Replicant Dektora at the attic of Early Qs. Friendship with Dektora has to be < 30 (so like 29 and below), and McCoy clicks on where she's hiding (as in the "let her go" path, but she's not having it). This is super glitchy by the way, again probably because it can happen so rarely I need to fix it of course.
  
• Act 4: At the meeting McCoy can die either:
  • if he stays too long after Guzza is dead and the Replicants are his enemies (shot by Sadik)
    
  • or if he shoots at Guzza and misses (in which case Guzza shoots and kills him)
• Yet unrestored deaths that I can see in the code include:
  • being shot by Gaff at the end of Act 4
    
  • shot by Steele in the area where Sadik's bomb trap is set
    
  • directly shooting at the bomb in that area (this is disabled)
    
  • shot by Clovis when he's dying in the moonbus
    
  • killed by Leon (the thing with recognizing him from the posters, they explicitly have it as a death --although we'll probably change that).

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

Thank you for the extra suggestions. I'll make sure to add them in and explore the extra Dektora addition. How can you get her friend level get down that low??

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

It seems like the only way to "romance" Lucy is for her not to be the hunted.

Rocket Baby Dolls posted:

I have encountered another bug, you did say this route was glitchy so you're probably aware of it. On my return to Hysteria Hall with Steele, Lucy just walks off to the side of the screen and no dialogue takes place. It's not a game-breaking bug as leaving the main hall and returning seems to reset the scenario. It's only happened a couple of times but they were in short succession.