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ChunTheUnavoidable posted:I think Johnny Depp did it. Does he have an alibi? Don't be dumb. This was being filmed an hour away from Albuquerque. Obviously it was Walter White. The cops were getting too close Jesse and Walter snuck onto the set and put real bullets into the cold guns to create a distraction.
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ChunTheUnavoidable posted:if alec baldwin orphaned me I would kick his rear end Why not get money instead? Out of court settlement payday. You've got him over a barrel, because even if he isn't legally responsible if Baldwin refuses the kid he orphaned a reasonable settlement his career is over. Besides, you're 9, how are you gonna kick a grown man's rear end?
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punishedkissinger posted:AD had been fired for a gun safety incident on 2019 production where a crewmember was injured by a negligent discharge. How do productions hiring "infamously negligent safety guy" keep getting insurance?
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They don't have catering? Everybody has to pile into a bus and go to Arby's? This is not what the movies have lead me to believe about the movies.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:REMINDER: fanny means pussy ... in the UK. Do they still call them fanny packs there?
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suicide girl turned homicide girl
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dr_rat posted:She's also said she was overruled on safety procedures. One of the reasons they hire young unexperienced or unqualified workers for a job is because they are easy to push around.
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Nuts and Gum posted:This is clearly some meta 4d chess advertising campaign. No one got hurt cmon now. Everyone knows movies are fake.
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punishedkissinger posted:he's straight up blaming the people who walked off Even if it is true would it matter? Armor is a job because one person is supposed to be responsible for checking that every gun is handled and loaded properly. Apparently the dummy rounds have a small hole normal rounds don't have, something that can be checked with a quick visual inspection. "This box should only contain dummy rounds" isn't an excuse to not do that quick visual inspection. Oops, sorry for interrupting panty chat.
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Splorange posted:https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/nov/09/rust-shooting-alec-baldwin-calls-for-police-to-monitor-gun-safety-on-film-sets Isn't that literally the Armor's job tho? Plus knowing stuff like how much powder to put in a blank so it goes boom but not too much boom. That seems like something that might help more with liability than safety. The cop signed off on it so we're not at fault, and the cop has immunity so he's not at fault, so nobody is at fault.
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Nov 9, 2021 15:57
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People working 14 hour days and getting a max of 5 hours of sleep probably have impaired judgement anyway. Not to the point where they can't function at all, but they definitely aren't going to be 100% after a few weeks. Real easy for standards to slip in that situation.
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Dynastocles posted:Yes, and that's good -- more safety regulations (and more enforcement, following of, etc) is good -- but no one called for the ending of using helicopters in movies. That's the very obvious point I was making. Helicopters, like all heavier than air craft, are an affront to God and man and should be banned. There, now somebody called for it.
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DandyLion posted:Helicopters are an affront to God and in direct contravention to his natural laws. Their natural state is to be cast down into the pits of hell/fiery crater, but until then keep on runnin with the devil. This guy gets it.
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:And hey, maybe it's not! Frankly I honestly don't think child actors should be a thing, for one. You can CGI them or write around them. Agreed. Better to horrify audiences than exploit children. 
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Mozi posted:whether he pulled the trigger or not seems pretty inconsequential. if the AD gave him a gun and said cold gun he should have been able to leave it in a room full of children and the worst thing that could happen is they hit each other with it That is true. OTOH even he said in that interview clip that he would never pull the trigger while a gun is pointed at anyone, so he had learned that bit of gun safety, presumably from the gun safety meetings on this or previous sets. He should also have been taught trigger discipline and not had his finger on the trigger at all until it is time to fire.
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Sentient Data posted:I'm sad because this latest spin means the general public is even dumber than i want to believe. In a sane world his defense should be "of course i pulled the trigger, that was literally my job and what everyone expected me to do, and i only did so because we had multiple experts whose entire job was to make sure it would be safe to do so, and literally moments earlier we were reassured by the entire team that it was a perfectly safe course of action" There are millions of americans who want Baldwin to be found guilty of something because he made fun of trump. An extra bit of poo poo in the court of public opinion.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:But the optics would look better to feel guilty about it? That's what I'm saying - I've heard showing remorse can work in your favor in terms of the harshness of the sentencing in wrongful death cases. I don't think it's like how you should never apologize for a car accident, or how a doctor is advised not to apologize in malpractice settings. I could be wrong tho, IANAL. Feeling guilty could be better optics in the court of public opinion, but not the real court. Feeling guilt is evidence of having done something wrong. If you did nothing wrong you should not feel guilt. Beep boop. There are lawsuits and he's a big target. Alex Baldwin the producer is probably protected from direct liability by the production company. Alex Baldwin the shooter might still be found personally liable though. The production company will probably declare bankruptcy before any lawsuits even get underway. Baldwin presumably has deeper pockets than the AD or armorer so he's going to avoid admitting liability.
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RatHat posted:He's not directly responsible but he was the producer and it's indirectly his fault that the production was so sloppy. It's not murder though, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if the armourer who gave him the gun was hit with a murder charge though The armourer didn't give him the gun, she wasn't even on the scene at the time. She was also acting as a prop assistant because the production couldn't afford a full time armourer, lol. She set up the gun earlier and claims to have loaded it with the proper dummy rounds. The assistant director took the gun off the prop table, called it "clear" without checking, and handed it to Alec. Of course he should have double checked the gun, especially since calling "clear" indicates you have checked the gun, but he wasn't the one who loaded the gun. Last I heard no one was admitting to being the one who put the wrong bullets in the gun. If they can't prove that, it probably leaves a buttload of "reasonable doubt" for everyone else involved. Because it's possible their gently caress ups don't rise to the level of criminal negligence if a nefarious third party could have deliberately sabotaged the gun.
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Yaldabaoth posted:Implying the modern rightwing ruling class won't just attempt to wipe out everyone else by the end of the century. Doesn't matter if they do. A few generations down some of their decedents become the poor relations and class struggle resumes.
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There was a time in the 90s when "Baldwin" was slang for "hot guy". Now it means "killer". In Clueless she says “OK, OK, so he is kind of a Baldwin." That's gotta be confusing for people watching in the future.
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sure okay posted:I dunno man I'm not a fed but according to the article Unless the public is howling for blood and want to see this person in particular held accountable. In that case trying and losing may be better than being seen to "let him off". I doubt that's the case here though, chuds hated baldwin for SNL mocking Trump, but they've moved on to hating other people now.
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Infinite Karma posted:That seems like a lot of assumptions you made. Those are definitely good ways to be safe around guns that any trained gun-haver would probably follow, but not all actors are trained gun-havers and a safety plan that relies on the weakest link in the chain (the untrained actor) to be safe is not a very good safety plan. Industry standards are not part of criminal law though. According to industry standards actors have no responsibility as long as they are following directions. That doesn't mean the jury will agree that the person accepting and firing a gun has no responsibility. Baldwin wasn't some kid with their first big break nervously going along with whatever they are told. He absolutely had both the experience to notice that safety procedures on this set were sloppy, and the authority to refuse to go along with it.
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canyoneer posted:The funniest thing about Alec Baldwin isn't that he murdered a colleague/employee. If you really think about it aren't we all spanish tho?
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FoolyCharged posted:Playing with a real rear end gun by pointing it at people, resulting in their death, is actually something I'm a OK with saying is completely irresponsible behavior from anyone. Have you considered that this is a cursed gun and it's impossible to not point it at people?  That guy is a gun expert testifying about guns and he needs an assistant there to keep the gun from getting away from him.
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