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Warbadger posted:You can gently caress somebody up with blanks just in general. Debris from the blank, squibs or obstructions of any kind in the barrel, or just plain being too close to somebody. Yeah, it's worth noting that the guns that fire blanks are 100% real guns.
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Oct 22, 2021 04:37
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Who Is Paul Blart posted:I think there was a festival circuit movie in the mid 2000s that either showed full penetration or some dude getting sucked off. Maybe they wanted to take that to the next level but rather than getting his knob slobbed Baldwin just decided to shoot a lady Brown Bunny was a genuinely terrible movie, but this has managed to be worse.
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Oct 22, 2021 05:00
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Who Is Paul Blart posted:Does the dude bust? Yes, and Chloë Sevigny gets a lifetime pass for what she had to put up with from that rear end in a top hat.
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Ventral EggSac posted:poo poo sucks, I wonder how this will affect IATSE negotiations, if at all? Could they leverage the story to get more safety protections be put in place? For the most part IATSE has reached a deal, and all that's left is the paperwork. However, there are some areas that haven't completed negotiations. Relevant quote... quote:Negotiations continue for those who work under the similar Area Standards Agreement and belong to IATSE local unions in major production hubs such as New Mexico, New York, Illinois, Georgia and Louisiana.
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Oct 22, 2021 14:33
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Speleothing posted:Consider that there probably was a perfectly framed high quality video of Alex Baldwin's face as he fires the gun and realizes that it was loaded with a live round and that he shot two coworkers. Given who got hit, it's entirely within the realm of possibility that the camera they were using for the shot got destroyed as well.
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Oct 22, 2021 16:20
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He's tweeting https://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/1451572461787439106?s=20 https://twitter.com/AlecBaldwin/status/1451573351588106246?s=20
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Oct 22, 2021 18:33
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One of the most frustrating things about the way unions have been shrinking throughout basically my entire lifetime is that now you've got a bunch of idiots who recognize that unions are good, but have absolutely zero experience with them and so just start cargo-culting phrases they recognize like 'scabbing' without understanding exactly what they mean.
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Snowy posted:Less firing guns in films, more pistol whipping So, before John Hamm hit it big on Mad Men, he was in this cop show on Lifetime called The Division. Apparently, it was so low budget that (despite being a cop show) over four full seasons and 80+ episode they never fired their guns. The show couldn't afford the cost of having an armorer or doing the gunfire effects, so they just never wrote any gunshots into the script. The cops would sometimes pull their guns on a perp, and I think once or twice they pistol-whipped someone, but that was it.
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Oct 25, 2021 02:53
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Klyith posted:The thing I'm wondering is, the Holywood gun system all seems very hodge-podge. Like every production is hiring an individual armourer that does their own thing. Why isn't there a company that makes a whole standard set of replica guns produced or modified to fire only blanks, supplied with ammo that works correctly and minimizes the danger? Extra credit would be make them incompatible with standard ammo so that an accident like this would be completely impossible. I dunno, for all the dozens and dozens of tv shows and movies every year that feature guns, sounds like it'd be a sustainable business. The secret of Hollywood (and film production in general) is that, despite the massive amounts of money involved, it's still a relatively small industry. Like, just over 37,000 people in the US work in movie and video production. That's comparable to the number of employees at a regional grocery chain like Harris Teeter. So while there are a lot of attempts at standards and best practices, every production is essentially its own small business that is operating based entirely on who is there and what they know. ChunTheUnavoidable posted:Actors should be unbelievably stupid and ethereally beautiful. We shouldn’t even teach them the alphabet, much less gun safety A worthwhile anecdote here: When you see an actor in front of a computer screen, if the screen image isn't 100% simulated in post, then what you are seeing is an animation that has been created and worked out beforehand, so that nothing the actor does with the mouse/keyboard will have any effect on what is shown and they can't unintentionally gently caress it up. Gutcruncher posted:The push is because cgi guns look like poo poo and give the actor less to work with. Obviously using cgi is much safer and you can’t really fault anyone for doing it instead, but there’s pretty clear reasons a director would demand real guns on set, real stunts on real locations, real large animals, etc CGI guns, especially in TYOOL 2021, are perfectly fine unless you've got a completely dogshit vfx team (and if you've only got the budget for a dogshit vfx team, your production probably couldn't afford an armorer anyways). All the extremely boomer takes about CG being garbage are really ridiculous.
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Oct 26, 2021 18:13
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PinheadSlim posted:Is there anything that looks like the gunfight from Heat that's 100% CGI or does it all look cartoonish like Freddie Wong? Virtually every firefight in all of the John Wick movies are 100% CG (because they often have the gunshot and the person who is being shot in the same frame, so it wouldn't be safe to use even blanks in that scenario). So everyone who raves about the John Wick movies is praising CGI gunfights.
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pretty soft girl posted:
Look, punishedkissinger is apparently in some kind of Saw-style trap where they have to make sure that there are never more than 10 posts in this thread in between a pair of their own. There's no time to read or comprehend the potential humor of a post when Jigsaw has you tied to a keyboard.
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Oct 26, 2021 19:33
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Next you'll tell me to use fake cum in my romantic comedies! *flips table* I hate to break it to you, but sometimes, even in porn, the two people on screen aren't even really in love.
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Oct 26, 2021 22:39
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The Bloop posted:There is no world where this is murder 1 unless there is a real bombshell that hasn't come out yet The press hasn't mentioned it yet, but Jessica Fletcher was visiting the set (to see her friend's grand-niece). She's already halfway through cracking the case and proving that all of this was a murder planned specifically by *gasp* Billy Baldwin, who was hoping to take control of his brother Alec's fortune.
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Oct 27, 2021 17:04
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Per the news conference that the sherrif's department gave, there was a lead projectile recovered. So when they use the term "live round" they don't mean "technically a blank is live because it can fire and still be dangerous", they mean "an actual no-poo poo real bullet was in this gun". https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1453395809605718018?s=20
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Oct 27, 2021 17:37
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oh dope posted:God this poo poo is hilarious and weird Much like the gym bros who always wear small backpacks and cut-off tees (which let them hold the backpack straps in a way that emphasizes their arms and shoulders), some folks know the angle at which they look best and will find a way to hit that post no matter what the context is.
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Oct 28, 2021 15:43
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FoolyCharged posted:Pretty much. Everyone talking about how they hope this leads to more regulations confuses me. There already were regulations that exist. This happened because those regulations were openly and fragently ignored. The only way change comes out from this is if everyone culpable takes a big hit so people actually worry about those regs and take a damning looking union walkout over safety more seriously. There could also be more regulation enforcement, where groups like Cal/OSHA or NM OSHA are making regular visits to sets to check up on things. Of course, the problem with this is that productions will just move to whatever place gives them the least "hassle".
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Oct 28, 2021 15:48
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:She was only working 11 1/2 hours a day!! I also love the "56 hour weekend!" Making it sound like it was some kind of special long weekend. But if you're working an 8-5, your standard two-day weekend is 63 hours. This person is bragging about the equivalent of leaving work at 11:00pm on a Friday night and coming in at 7:00am Monday morning.
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Nov 4, 2021 16:14
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Vitamin Me posted:How is it sabotage if in any normal circumstance, live bullets would've been caught by a competent armorer? Isn't there some old rule like "if your defense attorney is talking to the press, you have a bad defense attorney"? I have a feeling the armorer's representation is just as competent at their job as she was.
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LegalEagle just dropped a breakdown... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXmAeMQCvZQ
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Bad Purchase posted:this is a good tweet and i won't hear a word against it Yeah, going after the armorer for doing some sex work isn't really relevant to her being a gently caress-up on set.
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I also think findom is vastly over-represented online, because it sounds very easy and low-stakes and so a lot of people who might otherwise not be willing to try more involved sex work (stripping, camming, etc) will happily make a findom twitter profile and see if they can rake in some cash. On top of that, everyone who is already doing more involved sex work realizes that they would be fools to not add findom to their list of services, since doing otherwise would be potentially turning away free money.
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Nov 5, 2021 16:31
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punishedkissinger posted:the gently caress is wrong with hollywood liberals that they still consider cops to be firearms safety experts Person whose production company is about to be sued into oblivion for wrongful death now declaring the need for people with qualified immunity to have a key safety role in future productions. Wonder what could be the motivation there?
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Dynastocles posted:And yes, literally only 2 people have died from gun-related accidents on movie sets in 30 years. The second of those two died last month. That's an amazing safety record, safer than fuckin airplanes, and means that when you follow the rules, things are fine. "I can't properly achieve climax when masturbating to a gunfight unless I know that I am seeing real muzzle flashes! Anything less than real guns is inferior and two deaths is a small price to pay to avoid loving CGI!!!"
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I promise I'm not being snarky and genuinely just want to understand the exact parameters of your argument, because if the threshold of safety something has to meet is literally zero deaths in perpetuity then we really ought to reconsider if making live-action movies is worth it at all. I think you're missing one very important point here: Giving up actually-firing guns on sets is a vanishingly minor concession. Even in the classic action movies of the 80s and 90s, when you had guns firing; 95% of what you were seeing and hearing was added in post anyways. Everyone brings up the Heat gunfight and how they used the actual audio from the day of shooting, but that was an extreme outlier, as films virtually never use the audio from on-set gunfire. Think of it this way: Imagine there was one particular type of fake blood that turned out to kill a couple of people over a few decades due to a super-rare allergic reaction. It would be insane to keep using it in films, even if the risk of death was very low and there were a lot of safety procedures around using that type of fake blood on set. Arguing that we should ban that particular fake blood because it is not worth dying over isn't the same as saying that any risk at all involved in making live-action movies isn't worth doing. It's not even saying that we can't show blood in movies anymore. It's saying that this one very particular thing isn't worth using when depicting blood on screen. And if someone was throwing a fit about trying to ban that type of fake blood because "all CGI blood loving sucks", it would easy to see how ridiculous their argument is when compared to the risk of people dying.
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Salt Fish posted:Its a wild west movie right? Obviously they're using old-timey revolvers and the protagonist is pointing a gun at the camera and pulling back the hammer. "Make my day..." I'm sure you can picture it. Anyway, your thumb slips off the hammer, it slams down, gun goes off without pulling the trigger. He wasn't doing a "make my day" scene. He was practicing a draw. Quickly grabbing the gun from the holster to point at the camera. It's extremely unlikely he was even paying much attention to where his fingers were in regards to the trigger (since he was told it was a cold gun and they weren't even shooting the scene yet). It's also extremely unlikely that he was consciously pulling the trigger. If he had his finger on the trigger and pulled it reflexively/accidentally during the draw: that's both entirely possible and (barring some footage getting leaked) completely unknowable at this point.
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It appears Baldwin has settled. And in a case of absolute madness the film is going to resume production (because apparently they made the woman's widower an executive producer to pay him off). Baldwin Reaches Settlement With Family of ‘Rust’ Cinematographer quote:The family of Halyna Hutchins, the cinematographer who was fatally shot by Alec Baldwin on the set of the movie “Rust” last year, has reached a settlement in its wrongful-death lawsuit against crew members and producers, including Mr. Baldwin, lawyers for the parties said on Wednesday.
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Even worse than him selling out is selling out for so little. The movie is a low-budget direct-to-DTV piece of crap, so there won't even be much (if any) backend on this thing. Given its notoriety it will likely be difficult to even sell it to a streaming service. Baldwin is getting out of jail for virtually nothing, and sets aren't going to get any safer when producers see how there are no consequences for homicidal negligence.
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FoolyCharged posted:So, remember how the husband sold out and didn't press charges so he could be a producer in the credits? Get his rear end!
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je1 healthcare posted:Also lol that the company is called Rust Movie Productions LLC. That’s pretty common. A lot of film productions form LLCs that exist for the sole purpose of the making the film. Especially when there isn’t a big studio involved, you need a business entity to handle a lot of things (getting money from investors, hiring crew, renting locations/equipment, etc. Since the company will only exist for that one movie, they often have the name <Movie Name> Production(s) or similar. This can be a fun way to see if a movie’s title was changed during production, too. Like, the Donald Glover indie film Mystery Team was produced by Mystery Gang Productions (they had to change the title since Hannah Barbera had the copyright to “Mystery Gang” thanks to Scooby Doo).
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Big rear end On Fire posted:Was he present when they were using it for target practice? Did he know it was the same gun? Was it the same gun? Also that article says it had "misfires". Misfires in shooting terms means the trigger was pulled but the cartridge did not fire. That tells me that someone pulled the trigger of the gun expecting a report and didn't get one. That's a major screwup but not the same thing as an accidental discharge. He was definitely on set when folks were loving around and it wasn’t a big enough location that you could have gunfire in one part of it and not hear it elsewhere. It was also confirmed that the gun he killed that woman with was the one folks were using for shooting targets.
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