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It's a movie set. People have different jobs. The armorer has the job of ensuring the props are safe to use. No way is this on the actor. They don't know what is real or fake, safe or dangerous. If it had been a physical stunt where one actor falls onto another with a stunt coordinator arranging it all and something went wrong you'd not hold the falling actor responsible. You'd look to the stunt team for who screwed up. Baldwin as a producer might be liable for other failings but as an actor it's not his job to understand if the gun he's holding has real cartridges or props. Hell, he probably didn't even know it was an actual firearm. I don't even understand why he was charged at all.
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The Single Action Army is well known for being a firearm that can discharge a round without pulling the trigger. The hammer basically rests on the primer when it is down and there's no hammer block mechanism on the trigger when it is cocked. The hammer notches can wear meaning you can push the hammer off the notch with pressure without pulling the trigger.
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Jan 24, 2024 18:44
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je1 healthcare posted:To clarify, he 100% knew it was a real gun and that there were real bullets on the set, because the armorer and other crew members were loving around with it and using it for target practice out back.
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Jan 24, 2024 22:29
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Baldwin is not going down for this. It sounds like the production had problems, the armorer was a complete screw up and the assistant director didn't do their job.
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Jan 24, 2024 22:59
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Blue Footed Booby posted:How do feds prove the trigger was pulled in a revolver without a firing pin block or other form of safety disconnect? "The gun fired" isn't sufficient, at least for court purposes. They can't. This is a gun where you're supposed to load one, skip one, then load 4 more because it's unsafe to carry 6 in it with the hammer down.
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Jan 24, 2024 23:37
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That is real interesting given a firing pin rests on the primer and you don't even need to pull the trigger to set it off-just bump the back of the hammer hard enough. Reading that quote verbatim it says they proved you need to pull the trigger to drop the hammer but it doesn't address the firing pin sitting on the primer when the hammer is down.
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Jan 24, 2024 23:51
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Sorry but that is completely bullshit. You are right that it is not the actor's job to oversee safety precautions, but your conclusion is rear end-backwards. It is absolutely the actor's job to observe that safety precautions are followed, by not doing anything stupid without the explicit go-ahead of the actual licensed security personnel. Which, a random producer yelling "cold gun" while tossing you an unsecured weapon off a random table is categorically not. They were using dummy rounds on set so checking the gun to ensure it was unloaded wouldn't necessarily have been done. The biggest screwup is the fact that live ammo was brought anywhere near that set. That is such a basic, absurd mistake by the armorer.
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Jan 25, 2024 02:49
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Seems like she rode her dad's coattails into the industry and is one of those people who thinks that's good enough while being woefully unqualified and unprofessional.
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E. Revenant posted:
That’s all way too complicated and unnecessary. They could have used solid dummy rounds not made from real brass and primers for gods sake. That armorer is a complete loving idiot. It boggles the mind.
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Mar 8, 2024 08:28
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The bare minimum of safety would have been-Toxic Mental posted:If I were the armorer on set I simply wouldn't have brought real bullets to the set
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Mar 9, 2024 03:27
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My little buttercup, has the sweetest: e-smile! e-smile!
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