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Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

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Sophy Wackles posted:

Why would there be a bullet in the barrel of a movie gun in the first place? Like, I thought blanks didn’t have bullets.

It's not so much a bullet being in the chamber but rather an obstruction of some kind. Blanks still "fire" by producing energy that can cause an obstruction to fire like its an actual bullet.

The Crow had this happen with Brandon Lee where there was an obstruction in the chamber. Basically the crew removed gunpowder from live rounds to make "dummy" rounds not knowing the primer is still very much live. At some point the trigger was pulled and the primer fired with enough force to fire the bullet but not enough force for it to leave the chamber. Then when the firearm was loaded with actual blanks the energy produced caused the bullet to fire like it was a live round. There's a documentary on Netflix about "cursed films" where they re-created this incident and, yeah, it fired with the force of an actual bullet alright.

Justin Godscock fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Oct 22, 2021

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Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

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Wendigee posted:

when you say "dummy round" are you like referring to a round used on film to look real like on a table, but never be fired?

Ideally it should be a round that is impossible to fire. Like no gunpowder or any kind of primer making it absolutely useless if it was loaded into a firearm. They are used for scenes where someone is loading a firearm or something.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

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frumpykvetchbot posted:

Leaks. There will have been probably a few people on the inside in the film crew unhappy that the union team had to walk and who shared their gun safety on set concerns and misgivings over the chucklefuck armorer.

There are a LOT of production assistants online compared to even 5 years ago I’ve noticed. Especially on Reddit. I’d at the very least listen to what they are saying and then wait for the investigation to run it’s course.

Someone asked before if the footage is saved and I’m thinking it’s probably with the police if not destroyed at this point. After Brandon Lee got shot his death footage was destroyed and nobody went to jail for “destroying evidence” so I don’t know.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

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Trillhouse posted:

(why the gently caress were there live rounds on set? what the hell happened?)

If there were live rounds on set: someone is going down. The tragedy with Brandon Lee happened because of live rounds being present on set and rules came down banning them.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Probably a classic case of someone taking the magazine out of a gun... but not removing the round in the chamber...

The armorer seems to be entirely at fault here. Alec Baldwin doesn't really deserve much of the blame he is getting here really. People are focused on him being a producer, but that doesn't mean much on a movie set... If you put some money into a movie, you can be a producer but won't get to make any decisions... probably just being the big name on the cast will get you a producer credit...

That's usually the "executive producer" credit if they chipped in money to get the film made. They really have no power and aren't even on set or anything. A "producer" has actual power and is top of the chain of command on set.

pentyne posted:

Im seeing reports that from the search warrents served by the NM police, there was a set of 3 guns on a table, the assistant director grabbed one and yelled "cold gun" to tell everyone it was unloaded, then handed it to Alec Baldwin, who then proceeded to aim at the camera and pull the trigger for the scene, which then fired the live, no poo poo bullet that was loaded into the gun.

I don't know what his role as a producer was, but that AD and the armorer for sure are going to face some serious charges.

Same armorer is being quoted as from previous interviews talking about how she was never really able to load blanks properly and always had to ask her dad to help.

It's not in the report that she checked the chamber and barrel and all that to ensure it was unloaded (obviously, but just saying for the sake of the report)? Yeah, there is going to be some charges if it's in policy to do that on set.

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