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fool of sound posted:Yeah I agree that this is a major problem. The problem is there's a consistent tension between posters who feel that it's unfair when people do not assume good faith on their part, and posters who feel that they shouldn't have to humor people who they have determined to be posting in bad faith. Sometimes these are the same posters. I earnestly don't know how best to deal with this. Here are two things you can do immediately. 1. If someone is acting like rear end in a top hat to other people, kick them out. "Decorum" is going to come up, but it's pretty clear from a good faith reading that the rest of the thread shouldn't have to constantly deal with the anger management issues of others. Not to mention that posting actual vile poo poo counts as acting like an rear end in a top hat, so you can easily nail the calm hitlers as well. There was a great conversation about the Facebook files in USNews until folks started to insist that if you didn't delete your account right then and there you were responsible and enabling of everything terrible that Facebook corporate was doing. the_steve came in when they found out and told them all to stfu, but that sort of poo poo shouldn't be tolerated in general. 2. Stop allowing people to reframe, restate or just make up out of whole cloth what someone else is saying. It's dishonest at it's core. The games of telephone I see here and elsewhere lead to random admins banning people for no good reason. It immediately pisses people off when their words aren't taken for what they are, you get the inevitable back and forth, and the troll wins by shutting down all useful discussion. Additionally I'd like to add that "meeting effort with effort" isn't about decorum or word count, it's about supporting your argument when others do the same. It's not fair to anyone to spend time researching and getting sources only to get a shitpost in response. Furthermore, that's how we lose subject matter experts in our threads. The covid thread had a published epidemiologist leave because they were tired of having to constantly debunk poo poo. That's not their job, but because that sort of posting was allowed to continue, we lost a valuable resource.
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm not as pessimistic as most about the future, but when I see someone make a low-effort optimism post like "don't worry, everything will be fine if we just elect more progressives The hard work of campaign volunteers has been regularly trashed in this forum, in the same way that work of other subject matter experts has been. Just ask the folks who worked to turn the VA legislature blue. They're never treated well for anything that improves the lives of real people and roundly mocked for any stretch goals that aren't achieved the first time around. They're harshly judged for not immediately becoming a perfect paradise regardless of how much ground is gained in the meantime. The people doomposting aren't looking for way out, they're looking to make everyone else as miserable as they are.
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", it's like nails across a chalkboard to me. It's just empty hope with nothing substantial, just as meaningless as the "everything is hosed, we're all dead in 10 years" posts.
Is the Local 69420 on strike and they need snacks?
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Just stop being such huge loving assholes to each other and kick people out who are. That’s it.
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