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I don't think it's limited to mod tools. It's probably admin tools as well. One of the reasons some threads had to go monthly was because the drop down page select box doesn't truncate the list at all so the box itself was getting so large that in super busy threads it was showing up as a noticeable strain on the servers. I can't even begin to imagine what a mess stuff like the front page is under the hood, all inherited of course as should surprise nobody
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Oct 27, 2021 00:39
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aw what no word cloud?
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Oct 27, 2021 05:13
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Monthly USNews threads, I like it. Easy, saves astral having to yell at us later. Loosening up moderation, ya sounds good, just want people to reflect that no "side" really "wins out" if that happens, not that it seems like many have implied as such among those who have mentioned it ofc. I'm not gonna be anybody's ref or arbiter, not trained to, not enough time, can't imagine I'm alone. We gotta be less aggro tho, Online doesn't matter, it's boomerville, we're drain flies in the pipes of the real recognized inhabitants of this worldwide network, the people who listen to the Qanon shaman guy and pose with that guy pretending to be RFK Jr at something called like Patriot Freedom Mega Con sponsored by the pillow guy. You wanna wage a war, chud spaces are basically unmoderated (admins there caught the roni), or maybe go hassle some red guards. Click on all the ads you see so your opinions start mattering more to The Algorithm. What is the shape of a D&D where we are less angry or calling for the refs all the time? What's it called? Does it have USPol? How do we return to Just Posting from these troubled and unsettled times. I've been watching since the start and this seems to be the path we all want to go down. Heard a lot of good stuff so far, some of which I disagree with but that don't matta. Keep it coming. Aegis posted:As far as I know the rule regarding shitposting in here has always been that you might not get punished if the mods think your post was funny, but you are taking your your ability to post for the next few hours into your own hands--so your zinger better be worth it. This is one of the longstanding rules of the forums in general, in fact. Like, a bedrock one. It's a comedy forum.
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Oct 27, 2021 21:14
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Lib and let die posted:Datasets and Diagrams, apparently. This would probably make it too popular, imho. There's a lot of sickos and freaks on these forums who have big folders of flashy infographics and Nate Silver sized hulking and wheezing spreadsheets of like, tank stats or CK2 tactics. I've heard there's even some threads that worship the concept of Number. Not fair to the other forums.
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Oct 27, 2021 21:25
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The graphs are good yeah, more of those. Would like to reiterate that I was disappointed to hear that all those probe reasons got pulled but we didn't get a word cloud, which is the standard bearer of reliability in data science as I understand it.
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Oct 27, 2021 21:27
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Main Paineframe posted:We don't. Politics discourse as a whole has been too thoroughly Twitter-poisoned. And that's not just a matter of Twitter embeds being common, it's the general fact that people are browsing Twitter all day because that's where politics news and discussion comes from these days. The most politics-addicted among us are spending their day submerged in the magic algorithm that's literally designed to find out what makes them maddest and only show them that stuff. And then they curate that for only the most clickbaity and infuriating stuff, which they repost over to SA for people who use this site as their primary politics news source. Even if we banned direct Twitter embeds, the general impact of social media on political discourse still has quite the effect all on its own. Chuds aren't the only people being convinced by social media that their posting is a crucial front in the war for the future of America. We don't what, gotta be less aggro? That's sort of against one of the deeper currents of this thread so far. I agree with you that Twitter is a pit and social media is killing us. It ain't just chuds, it ain't just libs, it's everybody. I hope I had come across that I'm firmly anti-Twitter and what it's done to people's Brains. It's turned us all into journalists, a most terrible fate. The only solution is to disengage. If your feedback is that you don't think it can be fixed then because we're all too brainfucked then okay, yeah I get that. I'll keep it in mind, you don't make a bad argument or anything I just don't know how to engage with it in the goal of trying to improve all of This
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Oct 27, 2021 21:36
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Main Paineframe posted:Yeah, sorry, I was referring to "how do we go back to the days of Just Posting". I think that social media, and its intentional policy of amplifying the worst clickbait and the most infuriating posts, has fundamentally changed American political discourse and the way people approach politics, all across the political spectrum. It's influenced the old news media, too. Between that and the rise of beloved political idols like Hillary Clinton Oh that yeah, I mean crossing the same river twice tho ya know? There's no going back to pre-Trump but that's not the goal, we've gotta figure something out now, shaped by our present material circumstances. Some German guy talked about it I think. I think there's enough here to the effect of "oh but this isn't a problem in CSPAM or GBS or wherever else" is something. They aren't any more inoculated from the poisonous brew that is the wider internet after all, but there's something there that is happening. What is it, how do we make it happen here. I mean hell the UK threads seem to do just fine and their press and internet is even dumber and more psychotic than it is in the US (just my opinion)
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Oct 27, 2021 21:50
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Not as many people abuse reports as people think, but that isn't the same as saying they don't pile up. Hell just the fact that it's always news to 90% of people that a post can only be reported once is a pretty good proof of that imho. I think some of the things proposed here would lower them in number and some would potentially raise them. It's hard to say. It's something I consider downstream of broader reforms or adjustments or whatever I can't say I support anything that would discourage people from reporting a post, even if they're abusing them and even if said discouragement would possibly be pretty funny. Mellow Seas posted:Here's a dumb idea that would probably go horribly: All I can say would be "best of luck to whoever has to come in after a month of zero moderation to clean things up" given how so much of the internet without even light moderation is
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Oct 28, 2021 01:30
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Lib and let die posted:
It's amazing, thank you
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Oct 28, 2021 01:46
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Korean Boomhauer posted:if the sa store ever comes back i'd get this on a shirt A beach towel to surpass  beach towelThorn Wishes Talon posted:At this point, there's such an incredible lack of trust in the moderation system that the only way to combat it is to make the system more transparent. I like some of this like the way multiple reports would be handled, but it's probably a lot of work on the back end and something of a long term goal, and astral has their plate full I'd bet. I dunno I'm not a code guy, I just know I press F12 sometimes on accident and get scared. Definitely prefer the hardware stuff, nice and tactile.
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Oct 28, 2021 02:00
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I'd like to reiterate that people shouldn't be discouraged from reporting things, even if once every couple years there's a thread where it may seem funny to do so on the face of it
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Oct 28, 2021 03:47
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Doin something you've been ramped for already is a dangerous game anywhere on these boards. Doin it in such a way that everybody's first thought is that Bill Clinton died only for them to realize it's a low effort post with just a link and nothing else, double danger. "Doomposting" as a thing and as an actionable thing are two separate beasts, imho, but both worth reconsidering stuff on. It's on my "Thing To Mull Over From Feedback Thread" list. I don't think this one is a particularly good example to analyze tho because by the looks of it it's also a good example of how hard it can be to actually earn a thread/forum ban (also on list)
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Oct 28, 2021 18:10
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Useful Distraction posted:Okay in order not to be probated I'll try to respond in a more substantive way than "what" I apologize, I don't know if I'm misremembering or if it got edited out but I do remember at least one person posting that (tongue in cheek somewhat, as I was also being) and I personally definitely thought that. My second thought was "well at least it's not the worst kind of contextless link, the unembedded youtube link". It's not an objection because the reason for the probation is already laid out, this is just my take, my feedback if you will, a reading of the whys and wherefores of the forums
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Oct 28, 2021 18:39
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There isn't going to be a formal or informal ban on "conservatives", and I'm sure there are some floating around. There's not many tho, because the rest of the internet is far more friendly to being conservative on because it's monetized around conservative wants and desires. Or probably just as hostile depending on the particular ideology. It's probably a very hard thing to resist, so any remaining probably have Socialist-At-Thanksgiving syndrome where it's felt to be best to just set it aside and enjoy other aspects. There's been some notables even in CSPAM, but alas they all went insane and autobanned or got perma'd, probably because they got buttons. And of course there's the various migrations from SA after purges that became pretty reactionary. It's probably not easy to express conservative views here ngl, I recognize that. It's not easy to be a commie even in liberal circles either. There's always the risk of being seen as trolling too, so extra scrutiny. Post-2016 baby, we're all insane now, it's priced in. People don't like that if they just wanna post and chill. Jeff just sees things how they are and there's no sense in pretending otherwise, and maybe it's hostile but if it's any consolation, anarchists don't have it much easier here as of late. serious gaylord posted:I once again ask you to think of these 2 things before taking any action. These questions should be asked in opposite order, imho. Or maybe 1-2-1'. Gotta have a philosophy...gotta have a plan, even if the plan's gotta make room for volunteer staff and lots of unexpected stuff
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Oct 28, 2021 19:45
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buying blank avatars is actually a pretty good troll, respect
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Oct 29, 2021 05:13
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astral with all due respect tho, how I remember the page drop down issue is way funnier than reality so I'm gonna stick with how I remember it
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Oct 29, 2021 05:14
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Cease to Hope posted:Why are the mods fooling with redtexts in the first place We aren't....we can either blank them or leave them alone, and blanking involves approval. That's not the same thing as having Opinions on them, tho we are of course free to pay $$$ to change anything but the only avatar I've ever purchased since being modded was sedisp's. Sometimes an avatar is low effort and boring. Risks being replaced
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Oct 29, 2021 05:22
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astral posted:In the early radium days, threads were mandated to be capped at 100 pages because they actually would slow the server down thanks to some extremely inefficient queries for posts from a thread. I believe radium did some work to improve this, and it was further-improved by Choochacacko in ~2012, which is why the biggest problem with long threads these days is a client-side one. Perhaps that's what you were thinking of? I was specifically thinking of the original Trump thread but it's also really funny to imagine capping threads at 100 pages nowdays lol. I remember the thread being told the page drop down or whatever was reaching 8Mb and was messing with things it needed to reboot. A good idea in the end. I can believe it was only client-side issues but I believe to believe otherwise
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Oct 29, 2021 05:32
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As a non-voting communist I will take under my wings all who refuse to vote and protect them. This is my promise. If you refused to vote and are being yelled at about it, PM me. I will probably say you're being a whiner, but know you have a champion
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Oct 29, 2021 22:46
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Pamela Springstein posted:Thread has gotten very productive and it would be a mistake to close it tonight. All things are malleable and no things are permanent. We still have hours yet. Live in the moment.
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Oct 29, 2021 22:57
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A little thing off to the side with like "hey you read a lot of D&D, here's some new threads there" or "hey you read a lot of CSPAM have you considered logging off lmao owned" would be neat with the caveat that we're all ancient by internet standards and hate change so the UI implementation would be a challenge. It'd either have to be perfectly done or aggressively and intentionally bad, I'm not sure anybody would respect it otherwise
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Oct 30, 2021 07:03
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Fritz the Horse posted:what's adbot doing these days? Literally my first thought. God I miss that bot
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Oct 30, 2021 07:42
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC81xie8UrM edit - has some lowtax as a product of its time ofc but i hope the thread can appreciate it on its artistic merits Epic High Five fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Oct 30, 2021 |
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Oct 30, 2021 07:45
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Strep Vote posted:...have we managed to go the whole thread without mentioning that DnD was once.... CE? Because that was changed because things got too contentious in Current Events. Porque no los dos? A politics and philosophy and history forum, and one for the events of the day? It's come up a few times...i think the way forward for D&D even if it involves a rebranding is to learn from the past rather than imitate it tho,...just my opinion, so far at least
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Oct 30, 2021 08:12
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Flying-PCP posted:Off to the side where/on what pages exactly? Sorry if I'm misinterpreting what you mean, but I don't really want to see thread titles about some horrible news things when I'm not willingly in the horrible news place. Maybe it's right for me to be forced to confront them anyway though, I dunno. Control panel Like I said, wouldnt be easy
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Oct 30, 2021 15:57
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Taintrunner was very much a lib and I expect most D&D posters who self-identify as communists aren't much different literally dying lmfao
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