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Oct 27, 2021 13:08
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Finished La Chartreuse de Parme by Stendhal recently. A good book, though I often felt like guillotining the aristocratic main characters.
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Oct 27, 2021 13:12
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np19 posted:Everyone owes it to themselves to read Germinal by Emile Zola. I don’t hear enough people talk about it when the matter of “the classics” comes up. That one's next on the list! I can't wait to get my revolutionary strike on.
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Oct 27, 2021 13:16
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:
Holes is not old enough to be a classic but I’m glad you mentioned it because it rules
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Oct 27, 2021 14:49
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I could never get past the word Wuthering.
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Oct 27, 2021 14:51
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I never read Wuthering Heights, but my sister has very strong feelings on it. "It's about two miserable monsters who died and I'm GLAD." All I remember from Grapes of Wrath is him following that drat tortoise for like, 20 or 30 pages.
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Oct 27, 2021 15:59
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I don't understand, call who "Ishmael"?
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Oct 27, 2021 16:00
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NC Wyeth Death Cult posted:I don't understand, call who "Ishmael"? Me
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Oct 27, 2021 16:00
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It's my gamertag
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Oct 27, 2021 16:01
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A confederacy of dunces is hilarious and deserves its rep as one of the funniest books ever
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Oct 27, 2021 16:17
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Ishmael, when you call me, you can call me Al. (Call me Al)
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Oct 27, 2021 16:36
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Ishmael is a good book too
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Oct 27, 2021 16:43
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We had a choice of 3 books to finish our high school 19th century British literature unit. It was Wuthering Heights and 2 more books that were worse. The teacher tried to sell Wuthering Heights as not a sappy love thing and backfired because now we were all convinced it was sappy love stuff if the teacher had to try and sell it. By the end everyone who picked Wuthering Heights was like drat that was cool as hell, meanwhile the rest of us never got past the introduction that involved 200 pages of describing a pub and it's visitors and Cliffs noted the book report and would have failed if not for the fact nobody in the class read the book. I think what I mean is I need to go back and read Wuthering Heights.
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Oct 27, 2021 16:43
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Many good books mentioned already, and I literally just finished Moby Dick the other day. Is other Melville worth reading? My impression is Moby Dick is pretty different from his other stuff. Also, Cervantes is deeply beloved by other writers I love, like Borges, but I've always had trouble getting through Don Quixote as well. Does anyone have a good translation or some advice?
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Oct 27, 2021 21:00
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A Strange Aeon posted:Many good books mentioned already, and I literally just finished Moby Dick the other day. Is other Melville worth reading? My impression is Moby Dick is pretty different from his other stuff. Do you like polynesians???????!?!?
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Oct 27, 2021 21:08
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Bartleby the scrivener is a great very short read
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Oct 27, 2021 21:20
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Lord Decimus Barnacle posted:Bartleby the scrivener is a great very short read Oh, I think I read this one--the "I'd prefer not to" guy, right?
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Oct 27, 2021 21:30
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Oct 27, 2021 21:36
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Typee was an interesting book by Melville. Since you’ve read moby dick it’s pretty obvious that Melville actually spent some time on whaling ships. But he hated whaling so much that he went awol on his first trip and ended up stuck on an island for a while with “cannibals” He wrote Typee based on that real life adventure.
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Oct 27, 2021 21:53
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If you're still feeling some survival at sea stuff: The Open Boat by Stephen Crane is awesome: https://americanenglish.state.gov/files/ae/resource_files/the-open-boat.pdf
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Oct 27, 2021 22:16
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Lord Decimus Barnacle posted:Typee was an interesting book by Melville. I think I have Pierre or the Ambiguities on my shelf, but I haven't given it any time. I'm assuming no one really talks about his other work because it's not as transcendent as Moby Dick, but I like his style so I'm willing to give his deep cuts a try.
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Oct 27, 2021 22:18
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The funny thing about Typee is that was his most famous book while he was alive. Moby Dick did not become popular until after Melville died.
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Oct 27, 2021 22:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKERtgA0Yrc
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Oct 27, 2021 22:51
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I have a bunch of Camus but haven't revisited most of it in like 7 years maybe. Wonder how I'd feel about his stuff today. or kafka, for that matter
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Oct 27, 2021 22:59
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Das Boo posted:I never read Wuthering Heights, but my sister has very strong feelings on it. "It's about two miserable monsters who died and I'm GLAD." All I remember is them deliberately running over a dog and I was out. I’m glad those shitfuck okies suffered.
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Oct 27, 2021 23:03
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I'm gonna go ahead and say the a good number of the 'classics' are unreadable poo poo Mark Twain is excellent, I like Steinbeck, I like Joseph Heller (if he counts) and I like Dostoyevsky. I love Gene Wolfe but I doubt many people would accept him being put in that category. Most of the rest I've bounced off hard
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Oct 27, 2021 23:08
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eSports Chaebol posted:i read THings Fall Apart freshman year of high school and hated it but maybe i was just stupid and should re-read it Things Fall Apart is worth a re-read it is a beautiful book
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Oct 27, 2021 23:13
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lonelylikezoidberg posted:Things Fall Apart is worth a re-read it is a beautiful book Really depress yourself and twin bill it with Red Sorghum.
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Oct 27, 2021 23:16
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runnypoops posted:A confederacy of dunces is hilarious and deserves its rep as one of the funniest books ever Same with catch - 22. That book is absolutely hilarious and I pity anyone who didn't bother actually reading it when it was assigned
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Oct 27, 2021 23:18
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Catch 22, Bat 21 and Turk 182 were all movies with numbers that confused me as a kid.
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Oct 27, 2021 23:23
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I read "The Way We Live Now" and it revolves around the stock mania of building railroads but also because it's by Trollope it had plenty of hot upper class on lower class action. I was like, "drat, the mania for buying stocks in these rail companies that are nothing more than rumors is like the internet craze from the 00s or the theme of the song 'Big Rock Candy Mountain'" and then I googled to read criticism of the book and the first academic was like, "ON THE SURFACE, IDIOTS WILL DRAW PARALLELS BETWEEN THE STOCK MARKET MANIA OF THE BOOK AND THE INTERNET BUBBLE" so I stopped trying to read what others said about the books I read and instead read for pleasure... so no more Trollope, we're reading Zola where he still writes about heavily speculating in real estate and the stock market during the Second Empire but the son of the main character has nasty sex with his step mom
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Oct 27, 2021 23:38
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If you all want a less heavy Dostoyevsky-novel check out The Double. Golyadkin the protagonist is just a complete neurotic buffoon. It's almost Curb your enthusiasm, if it was written by Dostoyevsky.
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Oct 27, 2021 23:52
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Play posted:I'm gonna go ahead and say the a good number of the 'classics' are unreadable poo poo Maybe you’re just a philistine
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Oct 28, 2021 00:13
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Anyone here read War and Peace?
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Oct 28, 2021 00:21
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Brother Tadger posted:Maybe you’re just a philistine I probably am. But I also don't buy the idea that anyone can actually correctly determine which books or authors are good enough to be dubbed 'classics' and which aren't
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Oct 28, 2021 00:25
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i like the part in beowulf where they say a bunch of nonsense words in norseman language and then they repeat everything in proper english
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Oct 28, 2021 00:29
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Szyznyk posted:All I remember is them deliberately running over a dog and I was out. I’m glad those shitfuck okies suffered. gently caress, I was just thinking about the "kick the dog moment" to shorthand a villain. How did people loving miss that?
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Oct 28, 2021 00:33
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F. Scott Fitzgerald is rich people problems and I feel a little embarrassed about liking so much of his stuff, though I do consider Gatsby to be much less than Tender is the Night. If you hate rich people problems, The Beautiful and the Damned is satisfying. Robinson Crusoe chat: That Swiss Family Robinson is essentially Robinson Crusoe fanfic. Right down to the title.
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Oct 28, 2021 03:32
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Surprised no one has mentioned Hemingway--I've only read The Sun Also Rises and A Movable Feast, but I keep meaning to read his more famous stuff.
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Oct 28, 2021 04:23
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Gotta go for Jules Verne for my personal fave which is 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. It feels so much like youre being drawn in for this grand journey into the world abroad, like someone telling you about this amazing vacation, where things go a little tilt. Also one of the few funny SNL sketches i ever remember was when Kelsey Grammar hosted in the nineties and it was a version of 20,000 leagues and the general bit of the comedy was no one understood that leagues are not a measurement of depth.
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