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Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
1)animals do not have a right to life so it's fine to kill them humanely and eat their organs and flesh and eyes or whatever
2. it is not the individual's responsibility but the state's to determine what is a sustainable amount of meat that people can eat
3] it's really good
4: historically vegetarians and vegans are the most liberal people who believe personal responsiblity will save us from being baked alive by the climate because we had too many hotdogs
5> gently caress you
6} please post lots of pics of your favorite meat related foods in this thread

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Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
ooh i forgot to say

7| no vegans allowed. (you can have one though, so decide amongst yourselves)

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
did you get your username from eating soup with meat in it

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

dead gay comedy forums posted:

:siren:POSTING CHEKA WARNING

Dolphin, I appreciate your lmao attempt. I really do. It's important for us in CSPAM to reach for higher comedy posting standards.

HOWEVER, you did an inexcusable, terrible, awful thing by insulting many members of our fine community, upstanding revolutionary socialists one and all, by denouncing them as liberals due to their dietary habits. Not only that, but you attacked a vast part of the international proletariat, with profound cultural traditions that incorporate the restriction of meat consumption.

Such a foul accusation against comrades, without substantial proof, is a poisonous, evil thing to do. But even worse than that, going by the level of this heavy charge, you must've elicited at least a couple of lmbos from me. Yet all I got was a modest chuckle. Low energy stuff. This low-grade shitposting does not benefit our community.

This warrants disciplinary action. But mercy is essential to justice; this Revolutionary Court believes in the inherent potential of every human being to bring forward the better day. Sometimes, however, they need a push to the right direction. Fortunately, as we all know, the Immortal Science can help us get there.

You must write, in 30 minutes from this post, a substantial argument in Marxist terms about why vegetarianism is incompatible with socialism. Defend your position with proper effort and energy. Final evaluation and analysis will be reserved to myself alone, but I welcome fellow members of our fine forum to voice their opinions on your piece. Failure to make a successful case will result in probation. Failing to post an argument at all will have a surprise sixer after the first one. For purposes of further clemency, making it funny and entertaining for us to read shall be a great exculpatory factor in your advantage.

I eagerly await your enlightening thoughts and/or lmaos. Good luck!
Well this is suboptimal, I just now opened this thread again

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the most viable method of farming that eschews reliance on a currently insurmountable task, the seizing of the means of production, is subsistence farming, and pastoralism. individual subsistence farmers do not have the land nor means to participate in agriculture at a scale necessary to sustain the entire population of the proletariat, so refusing to consume a cow's butthole makes you more in common with the bourgeois.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
who have such luxuries to be picky.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Judakel posted:

wouldnt eating meat require more farmland? most people are not hunters and dont currently possess the skills to hunt. this doesnt make a lot of sense. very low effort
no, much of the earth is not able to be farmed and is only viable for grazing. many of the crops necessary to support veganism and vegetarianism can only be farmed at an industrial scale.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Judakel posted:

if it is only available for grazing then what do you believe the farmers will eat as their cows come of age for slaughter?
they eat milk day to day. most pastoralists do not specifically keep cows for meat, they keep them for meat, hides, dairy, horns, everything. you don't need as many males so typically the males get slaughtered when they come of age.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
in many areas of the world vegetarianism is literally impossible. in areas of kenya in the 90s pastoralists were convinced by western missionaries to abandon their cattle goats and camels in favor of tilling and planting. then the droughts came and they starved. such is the way of the west.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Judakel posted:

just an all milk watery shits diet?
you would be surprised how much milk a pastoralist can drink. they also sell their meat to local markets, rural african meat is mostly locally sourced.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Judakel posted:

also i find it very odd that you wrote about how insurmountable the task of seizing the means of production was when the task asked you explain why it was incompatible with socialism
an individual can not seize production while eating his masters food for the same reason he cannot bind the masters hands with his own shackles. but he can engage in microeconomies that liberate him from the bonds of capitalism, and allowing him to engage in revolutionary activities like seizing the means of production.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
can i make one more point?

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dolphin posted:

can i make one more point?

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Judakel posted:

right but that wasnt what was asked
ya you can't do that eating avocadoes, almonds, and seitan

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Judakel posted:

but once established, would you need to eat meat?
some people would, yes. for instance people living in areas incompatible with industrial agriculture. but we haven't established communism so at the moment being anti-meat is incompatible with the goals of the proletariat.

in fact, in many areas of china and the former soviet union pastoralism is and were the only viable methods of subsistence.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i once drank a gallon of milk in a day and yeah. it was like the trevi fountain but you wouldn't want to kiss your date at it

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
gently caress you!

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

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Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Judakel posted:

bring. this. filth. down.
oh stop whining

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