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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Willa Rogers posted:

see: it's good to lay bare the mendacity & tortured reasoning of the democrat party, and the community notes do that

really don't need the community notes for that tbh, but i guess it's cool that every mild criticism of Biden can get a permanent "well actually" stickied to it that you have to pay eight dollars to get rid of (and maybe can't get rid of it even then)

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Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

^^^ it doesn't hurt, and it's the closest thing we have to non-curated & non-partisan media these days.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

they're a tool designed to get people to pay $8 a month for twitter lol

I can read them for free, tho.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Willa Rogers posted:

^^^ it doesn't hurt, and it's the closest thing we have to non-curated & non-partisan media these days.

lol what does this even mean. "it doesn't hurt"?

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

ann selzer's polls are considered the "gold standard of polling" so I lol'd at this:

quote:

Biden Trails Trump and Loses Ground in Key Demographics

President Joe Biden is trailing former President Donald Trump in the race for president, with Biden’s job approval and favorability ratings falling to the lowest levels measured by the poll while Trump’s ratings have improved.

If the race were held today, Trump would be the favorite of 45% of likely voters, in contrast to just 38% saying they would vote for Biden. Trump leads among likely voters who identify as independent, with 43% for Trump and 27% for Biden – but 23% of this group say they would vote for someone else.

“Our snapshot of the national electorate shows President Biden in deep trouble. Compared to our polling last fall, Donald Trump’s position has grown stronger, while Joe Biden’s has deteriorated,” said Hanson. “Meanwhile, Democrats have lost the enthusiasm advantage they held prior to the 2020 election, when 88% of Democrats said they would definitely vote. That number has fallen to 76%, giving Republicans a narrow edge in the pool of likely voters.”

The poll shows a significant gender gap in the choice for president. Trump wins with men by almost a two to one margin, with 55% of men behind his candidacy compared to 30% for Biden. Women favor Biden by a 10 percentage-point margin (45-35%).

Only 34% of Americans approve of President Biden’s job performance and a new high majority of 57% disapprove of how he is doing his job.

“Even among Democrats and Democratic-leaning respondents, about one in five disapprove of Biden’s performance,” said J. Ann Selzer, president of the Des Moines, Iowa-based polling firm Selzer & Company. “We are also seeing weakness among suburban women, who were partly responsible for his victory in key swing states in 2020. As recently as October 2023, Biden’s approval rating among suburban women was 53%, with just 37% disapproving of his job performance. Now, in March, he’s underwater with just 44% of suburban women approving and a striking 46% disapproving of his performance,” said Selzer.

When asked about favorability more broadly, majorities of Americans view each candidate unfavorably. But Trump’s numbers have improved from previous lows, increasing from 38% favorable a year ago to 46% today. Meanwhile, Biden’s have declined, falling from 44% favorable a year ago to 37% today.

https://www.grinnell.edu/news/grinnell-college-national-poll-consensus-protecting-kids-social-media-not-school-shootings

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


The people yearn for Mr. Trump to liberate their bodies and spirits.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

amazing that trump's polling has improved 8 pts even after those 91 indictments & biden's has dropped 7 points even after touting our glorious economic recovery for a year.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

I don't remember who in C-Spam said it, but they hit the nail on the head: you know Karine is bad at her job because liberals haven't turned her into a "yaas queen" like they did Psaki.

From where I stand, they’re indistinguishably bad.

Maybe liberals are just racist.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

Heavy Shit
Grimey Drawer
Yeah I mean it's pretty obvious that this new press sec isn't any better or worse at her job than Psaki was. Psaki is white. That's it.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008


hmm, are you sure? The only polling I would consider "gold standard" is from Bernie Porn at EPIC-MRA

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

lol what does this even mean. "it doesn't hurt"?

lol it means we're better served by more expression of ideas than fewer ideas lol

eta: why are you focusing on the notes that defend biden to the exclusion of others? plenty of notes puncture holes in lib pap.

Willa Rogers has issued a correction as of 22:15 on Mar 21, 2024

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Willa Rogers posted:

lol it means we're better served by more expression of ideas than fewer ideas lol

eta: why are you focusing on the notes that defend biden to the exclusion of others? plenty of notes puncture holes in lib pap.

i just don't find the idea that twitter is my friend because it came up with a new way to squeeze money out of people taking potshots at each other on the internet to be a persuasive one but you party how you party

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



FLIPADELPHIA posted:

Yeah I mean it's pretty obvious that this new press sec isn't any better or worse at her job than Psaki was. Psaki is white. That's it.

I think Psaki got to ride the wave of new dem president that isn't trump, also Biden wasn't cheering on bombing Palestinians every day at that time. But also I really only ever watch stuff from either press sec if it's linked here so maybe I'm wrong.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

i just don't find the idea that twitter is my friend because it came up with a new way to squeeze money out of people taking potshots at each other on the internet to be a persuasive one but you party how you party

lol at your vomiting strawmen at me.

I didn't say twitter was my friend; I said community notes are better than one-sided communication of people corking off & not being challenged. For those idiots who block everyone who disagrees with them, or only allow the followed to reply, it's better than going LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU, BAM! I WON THE ONE-SIDED ARGUE.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

FLIPADELPHIA posted:

Yeah I mean it's pretty obvious that this new press sec isn't any better or worse at her job than Psaki was. Psaki is white. That's it.

you've got to be kidding; psucci could eviscerate someone without rifling thru a 500-page binder to stall for time & then puking out word salad.

as I said in the succ thread, psucci was a monster, but she was great at her job of covering for other monsters.

Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

Willa Rogers posted:

lol at your vomiting strawmen at me.

I didn't say twitter was my friend; I said community notes are better than one-sided communication of people corking off & not being challenged. For those idiots who block everyone who disagrees with them, or only allow the followed to reply, it's better than going LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU, BAM! I WON THE ONE-SIDED ARGUE.

I mean... they're part of twitter... all value trends asymptotically to 0.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Willa Rogers posted:

lol at your vomiting strawmen at me.

I didn't say twitter was my friend; I said community notes are better than one-sided communication of people corking off & not being challenged. For those idiots who block everyone who disagrees with them, or only allow the followed to reply, it's better than going LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU, BAM! I WON THE ONE-SIDED ARGUE.

right, they found a way to get people to pay to have the last word in an argument. i never said it wasn't savvy.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
it's the one thing people will actually pay twitter for

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

I would pay jeffrey $8/month if I could reply to dnd posts w/out getting probated or banned. :angel:

edit: yo, big guy, I just found a great new revenue stream for you.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Hell, I'd pay that for a daypass to be able to do that.

(yo, jeffrey: april 1 is right around the corner)

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

FLIPADELPHIA posted:

Yeah I mean it's pretty obvious that this new press sec isn't any better or worse at her job than Psaki was. Psaki is white. That's it.

yeah seems obvious to me too

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
americans are afraid of francophone names. A polish name being sassy is new and exciting.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007
worst person you know, etc

https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/1770948771972567334

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Tankbuster posted:

americans are afraid of francophone names. A polish name being sassy is new and exciting.

this is liz franczak erasure

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
yeah but liz can speak french. She is too powerful

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

im voting trump to remove this accelerationist president

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Homeless Friend posted:

im voting trump to remove this accelerationist president

Same

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 28 hours!

Platystemon posted:

From where I stand, they’re indistinguishably bad.

Maybe liberals are just racist.

FLIPADELPHIA posted:

Yeah I mean it's pretty obvious that this new press sec isn't any better or worse at her job than Psaki was. Psaki is white. That's it.

kjp is amazingly bad at public speaking. i read most of the transcripts every week. it's her first job in a role like that. psaki has been around a while as press sec for Kerry and later the state dept.

OH MY BAD
Feb 5, 2024

by Pragmatica
this workplace smacks of colonialism

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

tangy yet delightful posted:

I think Psaki got to ride the wave of new dem president that isn't trump, also Biden wasn't cheering on bombing Palestinians every day at that time. But also I really only ever watch stuff from either press sec if it's linked here so maybe I'm wrong.

It seems the public only latches onto one press secretary per president. Biden had Psaki, Trump had Huckabee, Obama had Carney, Bush Jr had Fleischer. I know they all had more than that but those are the only ones I remember.

Also I don't think the current Biden one gets into sass fights with the guy from Fox News every day.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

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I still think a good chunk of why they loved Psaki was west wing brainpoisoning.
The smart and sassy redhead was just like TJ! I saw multiple people unironically say that while gushing about her.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

1glitch0 posted:

It seems the public only latches onto one press secretary per president. Biden had Psaki, Trump had Huckabee, Obama had Carney, Bush Jr had Fleischer. I know they all had more than that but those are the only ones I remember.

Also I don't think the current Biden one gets into sass fights with the guy from Fox News every day.

This is Spicer Erasure.

Eminent DNS
May 28, 2007

1glitch0 posted:

It seems the public only latches onto one press secretary per president. Biden had Psaki, Trump had Huckabee, Obama had Carney, Bush Jr had Fleischer. I know they all had more than that but those are the only ones I remember.

Also I don't think the current Biden one gets into sass fights with the guy from Fox News every day.

this is scaramucci erasure

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Spicer, scaramucci, that blonde lady.... trump had dawgs behind that podium

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Platystemon posted:

This is Spicer Erasure.

Dippin Dots hater

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

post hole digger posted:

Spicer, scaramucci, that blonde lady.... trump had bunnies behind that podium

ftfy


e:

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


suddenly remembering sean spicer's deep hatred of dippin' dots

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

World War Mammories posted:

suddenly remembering sean spicer's deep hatred of dippin' dots
NOT the ice cream of the future

having never really wanted ice cream at a baseball game as a kid, it's literally the only mental association I have with the dippin' dots brand

kind of like how DQ is just Chuck Grassley for me

raisin kane
Dec 26, 2019
obama also had the dude who liked guided by voices but went on to advocate for amazon’s right to grind employees into meat paste. many sides

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Platystemon posted:

This is Spicer Erasure.

Oh my god I forgot Spicer! Trump gave us so much.

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really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

1glitch0 posted:

Oh my god I forgot Spicer! Trump gave us so much.

This is what the liberals took away from you.

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