|
Postorder Trollet89 posted:It happens when people take larpy ideas like "eat the rich" a bit too far. Stick to the billionaires people. Puts me in the mind of this tweet https://twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/1453905016713011238?s=19
|
#
¿
Nov 1, 2021 19:11
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 12, 2024 13:54 |
|
|
Bobstar posted:I was once moved from my assigned seat to a seat further back, because the curtain separator thingy had got stuck, which would have meant the "business" class people wouldn't have been sufficiently screened off from us plebs. Yeah if you're loaded I kinda understand paying for business class for long-haul flights, because being crammed in for 10+ hours is never fun and the extra space is a big deal (+ it's always nice to get better food and free champagne and whatever), but I have zero clue why anyone would bother to pay more on a smaller plane where the only difference is you sit at the front behind a little curtain. I got flights between London City Airport and Glasgow a few times during my PhD and it was wild to see how many people seemed to be happy to splurge on completely nothing for the sake of a whole ~1hr trip. e: loving hell, I looked up the prices for a random day next year and some absolute goons are willing to pay literally double for the privilege - £60 for economy, £120 for business. Wild. Quite incredible that both are significantly cheaper than the near £200 it costs to get the train if you forget to book in advance though! ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Nov 1, 2021 |
|
#
¿
Nov 1, 2021 22:40
|
|
|
NotJustANumber99 posted:do you get booze though? You get free booze in economy anyway on the BA Cityflyer flights. (Unlike standard BA flights which phased out free anything a few years back. I'm sure it's perfectly coincidental that the subsidiary all the city wankers didn't feel the need to do any cost cutting) Total Meatlove posted:You’re paying an extra £60 to skip the security gate at Edinburgh and go sit in the lounge next to the posh BA one that does good measures. How early are you allowed to turn up for your flight...
|
|
#
¿
Nov 1, 2021 22:59
|
|
|
NotJustANumber99 posted:I think he meant how many days can i spend pissed in the free bar for before my flight? That was what I was getting at, yeah 
|
|
#
¿
Nov 1, 2021 23:14
|
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:The Aer Lingus lounge in Dublin Airport was €35 last time I used it in 2019, and they just leave the bottles so you can get absolutely wrecked on quadruple Baileys and mini sandwiches and cheese and crackers. Fantastic value if you have a couple hours and enjoy being absolutely twisted on your flight Yeah the lounges usually say you pay £30-40 for x number of hours but in practice no one challenges you once you're inside (maybe if the place is mobbed they're a bit more strict). I went to conference abroad once I couldn't be hosed doing much of anything the day of my flight, which wasn't till the evening. I went to the airport in the afternoon, paid for the minimum lounge stay (2 hrs I think) and sat there for about 5 hours getting absolutely blasted and playing videogames on my laptop in a lovely huge leather armchair, it was a pretty amazing day all things considered.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 2, 2021 00:25
|
|
|
Jedit posted:Liar. We still haven't had one. I got the train up to go see john macleod's grave, which was I guess a cool design and had a lovely if quite ill-informed letter of thanks from some random american tucked behind it. Then we had a quick look round some park with an big flagpole in it before going to spoons for the rest of the day. I would rate Aberdeen a solid 5/10 nondescript UK city all in all. forkboy84 posted:Yes, sometimes I watch Youtube videos by people who seem to spend their lives flying around the world on airmiles. I also watch these and every time I resolutely claim that I will learn how to do all the sneaky credit card tricks and whatnot to get stupid numbers of airmiles so maybe I can have one single first class flight in my life, but then I look and it's... complicated. Plus you usually need to be spending quite a lot to accrue them - not insane tens of thousands a week money, but you'd definitely need to have good job and be pretty comfortably off to get close. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Nov 2, 2021 |
|
#
¿
Nov 2, 2021 14:50
|
|
|
Total Meatlove posted:You get an Amex and then put all your shopping through it. Yeah, but iirc the bonuses are time-limited, so if you really want to get enough miles to realistically be able to afford a first class flight with them (and a long-haul one worth the time) you have to be spending at least something like 1.5k/month on the card for a few years. So it's doable if you're already pretty well off (or I guess on London salary/expenses) but not really doable for a lot of people, me included. At least that's what I remember but it was a few years ago I was looking into it.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 2, 2021 15:02
|
|
|
Grey Hunter posted:We're never getting rid of this, we just have to wait until it's just like the flu - killing thousands a year, but at a steady rate. Yeah I know my takes on the pandemic have been pretty heavily criticised itt, but this is the important thing to acknowledge. The initial lockdowns were not there to protect individual people, they were there to prevent hospitals being any more overwhelmed than they already were. Unless hospitalisations start shooting back up to where they were last year there will be no more lockdowns because as far as the government is concerned there is no need for them, outside of a few local ones maybe if things start to get strained. And tbh, there is probably an element of truth in the idea that the virus itself is not going to just go away whatever we do, so the end-goal does need to be accepting that covid is a thing now and will be endemic in the population and we need to focus on mitigating its impact rather than eradicating it wholesale. Yes, it is horrible that people are dying at all, but it is increasingly looking like the best-case long-term scenario is turning covid into another moderate-severity seasonal respiratory disease which can be planned for and protected against with some degree of effectiveness (for example with annual booster vaccines).
|
|
#
¿
Nov 2, 2021 17:10
|
|
|
Miftan posted:Only for long haul flights and only with some companies. Some companies like, I believe Etihad have ridiculous bullshit like full standing showers and private rooms, but for a lot of companies it's just Business+ (the plus stands for 'costs triple) Etihad's 'residence' cabin is insane, it's basically a small apartment with seperate shower room/bedroom/living room and you get your own dedicated butler for the flight. You know, if you happen to have like 20k burning a hole in your pocket.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 2, 2021 17:28
|
|
|
Noxville posted:This is the woman who was interviewed in that horrible BBC article that just today they’ve been all out defending. Content warning for some genuinely violent transphobia Holy poo poo that's so unhinged you want to laugh, then you realise this lunatic is being gleefully platformed by the BBC and you just have to sigh at the state of it all really
|
|
#
¿
Nov 2, 2021 21:06
|
|
|
Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1456578382959980551 I was convinced she was American. She certainly looks aggressively American, but don't ask me to explain what I mean by that because I don't actually really know.,
|
|
#
¿
Nov 5, 2021 18:38
|
|
|
JeremoudCorbynejad posted:My office (which can be reasonably described as Extremely Woke) is doing a survey lmao why does no one in this country know what class is
|
|
#
¿
Nov 9, 2021 18:10
|
|
Critical Race Theory mentioned
|
goddamnedtwisto posted:Because class is a slippery and extremely subjective thing. The Marxist definition of it is very useful for dealing with the broad picture of economics and politics at a national level, but a definition that lumps a jobbing builder in with Elon Musk and a quant with a Deliveroo driver is a bit too blunt when you're talking about opportunity and equality at an individual level. It just feels a little too close to 'class is how much money you have' for me, which is very superficial. Obviously there's a big difference between your Bill Gates multi-billionaire and a guy who came over from Iraq as a refugee and runs a kebab shop on Blackburn high street, but I think we have a lot more to gain than to lose by articulating the Marxist framework. If nothing else it would emphasises that the whole existence of the middle class is a cynical strategy by which Capital protects itself and give people some way to understand who their real enemies are. But it would also decouple class context from both concrete wealth and silly cultural markers like whether or not you like beer over wine or football over opera. Because yes, there are poor capitalists and there are wealthy proletarians! How can we explain that? That's when ideas of privilege start to intersect with the hard economics, opening up room for even more cool discussion, esp on race/gender etc. But all the while emphasising that the class structure as a whole is at the root of the entire thing. e: your post also put me in the mind of the old aristos who consider themselves the top of the pyramid despite not being able to heat more than a single room of their old manor houses that haven't been maintained since 1923. I feel like we overcomplicate things in Britain because the old 'British class system' continues to influence our discourse despite being a completely different thing to more structural frameworks, be they Marxist or otherwise. So when we talk about class we often conflate these things and talk past each other because we're using words that mean completely different things to everyone in the argument. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Nov 9, 2021 |
|
#
¿
Nov 9, 2021 19:57
|
|
|
How the gently caress did that moron manage to die at 45 e: please quote this when I also die in my 40s lol
|
|
#
¿
Nov 11, 2021 17:49
|
|
|
forkboy84 posted:Who, Lowtax? Isn't the chat that he offed himself after being told by a judge that spending almost all of your money doesn't actually mean you don't have to pay child support? Oh right, I'd only seen a lot of 'we don't know any specifics.' Kinda checks out I guess. Guy might have done bad things and been an rear end, but I'm not going to gloat about someone being so mentally unwell that they commit suicide and leave behind a grieving family.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 11, 2021 19:26
|
|
|
Failed Imagineer posted:https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1459136193162063872?t=26YXW0yTjCTQ84K9fhh_nw&s=19 I don't understand the shopping trolley emoji in this tweet
|
|
#
¿
Nov 12, 2021 16:47
|
|
|
stev posted:https://twitter.com/HackneyAbbott/status/1459136551460511750?t=LXjAQBWSHgLzuueQQ4_8cw&s=19 I feel like sex work is one of those topics where we all talk past each other quite a lot. I don't think a lot of people's opinions are as mutually contradictory as they think. Maybe this will get me cancelled and correct me if I've said anything really egregious, but my take is: - Sex work is work, and the people doing it are worth every bit of respect as anyone doing any other job - That said, sex work (we'll use simple uncomplicated prostitution as the example here because yes, it's a bit more complicated if we start talking strippers, camgirls, etc) has an extra layer of exploitation because the body itself becomes both labour and commodity. - That's a very different thing to buying just someone's labour power, because you're also actively objectifying by purchasing their physical being for your own gratification, as you would an inanimate object. - When this is men buying the bodies of desperate women, the men are by definition enacting gendered class-violence by reproducing capitalist relations in the transaction at their purest form. It's completely unambiguously an act of exploitation. - Some liberal feminist sex workers, almost all of them relatively privileged escorts with solid support networks and financial security, who are also usually able to screen clients and command ridiculous rates, are often platformed to talk a big game about how liberating their careers are. - In these cases the ethics of the act itself are a bit more complex because the class relationship between worker and john is far more balanced, most of them are making a conscious choice in what they do, and they could easily stop should they feel like it. As a result they cannot be so completely commodified as their poorer equivalents. They temporarily become a commodity of their own volition, they're not made into one. It's a subtle difference, but an important one I think.* - Ultimately their enthusiasm causes harm because it legitimises the more exploitative sex work far more common globally. - The vast majority of sex work - with the possible exception of said escorts and perhaps some other niche examples** - is therefore exploitative under a capitalist framework. In 99% of cases, using the services of a sex worker is an act of exploitation and, therefore, bad. - However, and this is important, it's also true that under a capitalist framework sex work does exist, and in a sense must exist, just as economic desperation does, and while we can hold a john responsible for the violence of the transaction they pursue, banning sex work outright is obviously just going to put a lot of people in harms way because it does put bread on the table, and as I said before they are workers, doing a job. - So they deserve our support 100% at all times. - The focus should be on ensuring that people in sex work have alternative options and support networks so that they don't have to do it. If they then make that choice, godspeed to them. - This obviously should involve decriminalisation (where applicable), but also a huge amount of public money spend on social security etc (lol). - In the long run though, we should be looking to abolish the entire capitalist system upon which sex work depends. It literally could not exist in the exploitative way it does now without capitalism, because the only people doing it would be those people who genuinely want to be doing it, and in that case... fair enough. I think what I'm getting at is that I imagine Diane Abbott was probably referring very specifically to economically coerced sex work, which is by definition exploitative, not your glamorous independent escort with a TikTok account and a OnlyFans. * Some people I've spoken to disagree here, and insist that all sex work (or at least prostitution) is by definition exploitative because of the commodification it implies. I see the point, but definitely feel there's room for nuance here. ** I feel like there's something in the idea that stuff like dominatrix work is actually very cool because of the way it subverts the usually class/gender exploitation dynamic but my brain is too fried today to articulate it particularly well. Instinctively I feel like if you want to go have a lady kick you in the balls and shove creme eggs up your arse, go hog wild. tldr: sex work is work, sex workers are cool, johns maybe less cool in most cases, sex workers should be supported but measures should be introduced to ensure that they don't ever need to do it, we should work towards a world where sex work isn't a thing, and we can all (with consent!) just bang whoever freely
|
|
#
¿
Nov 12, 2021 18:07
|
|
|
OwlFancier posted:On the other hand however you want to theorywank it, recorded history has shown that criminalizing, ostracising, and pushing sex work underground only does more harm and diane abbot as someone who alleges to be a politician should know that rather than gobbing off on "sex work bad, no support for sex workers" I mean my overall point was that sex workers themselves shouldn't be criminalised or pushed underground. Also, I don't really think it's a push to say that sex work is uniquely exploitative because whereas labour is commodified, the body that produces that labour is, ordinarily, not. Alongside the implications of purchasing someone's literal being. I hated being a janitor, don't get me wrong, but I'd have hated it a whole lot more if everyone who visited my place of employment felt completely within their rights to put their hands down my pants.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 12, 2021 18:34
|
|
|
I'd be very surprised if Diane Abbot's position was as banal as 'ew sex work and sex workers are gross, gently caress em'
|
|
#
¿
Nov 12, 2021 21:45
|
|
|
Borrovan posted:I was arguing about this with someone a while ago - is it? If I murder someone with a knife because I think they're a dick, that's just murder, but if I blow them up it's terrorism? Yes, terrorism as I'd actually define it is indiscriminate violence, including violence targeting civilians, geared towards cultivating a permanent sense of unease and vulnerability (i.e. terror) to the point that the population becomes completely exhausted and as result draining their government of political capital, forcing them to stop doing whatever it is the terrorists are opposed to or at least enter negotiations. This is very different to targeted guerilla actions with obvious targets. The IRA shooting up a British Army checkpoint or trying to blow up Thatcher were not terrorist attacks, by that metric. Conversely, them calling in a bomb threat, even with plenty of warning and even if said threat turned out to be a hoax, would constitute terrorism. Terrorism and violence overlap, but they're not the same thing, and the idea that you can define an attack as 'terrorism' on the basis of the weapon used is kinda absurd. A guy running into a crowd of people with a machete and going hog wild is potentially more of a terrorist than someone blowing up a car, depending on their motive. 'Methodology', despite that dumb BBC article suggesting otherwise, isn't relevant. That is kinda the point though. In practice 'terrorist' means whatever the establishment wants it to mean. This isn't anything new, the powerful have been throwing the term or related ideas about for hundreds of years to maintain their own veneer of legitimacy. I'd even maybe say the concept of 'treason' and the way that was used is a direct antecedent in some ways, or at least was used in a similarly malleable way.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 16, 2021 13:49
|
|
|
This reminds me of that article about the alt right women (Lauren Southern etc) who were apparently terribly shocked and disappointed when their weirdo alt right boyfriends treated them terribly. 'Tory is a groper' shouldn't even register as news, tbh, but here we are again with the supposedly earnest horrified surprise.Failed Imagineer posted:This is a fairly niche interpretation I don't think so. As far as the IRA were concerned they were fighting a war of independence. They certainly made use of terrorist tactics but attacking the military forces and political leadership of the entity you're actively at war with can't really be defined like that. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Nov 16, 2021 |
|
#
¿
Nov 16, 2021 13:57
|
|
|
keep punching joe posted:
Tbf you can get pretty comprehensive travel insurance for Europe for next to nothing so eh
|
|
#
¿
Nov 17, 2021 13:38
|
|
|
fuctifino posted:.... if you are lucky not to have a pre-existing serious medical condition, so eh. I have type 1 diabetes and it was like 10-15 quid iirc, but I concede if you're being wheeled around in an iron lung with stage 4 cancer it may be slightly pricier
|
|
#
¿
Nov 17, 2021 13:49
|
|
|
keep punching joe posted:Applying for a free card that tells the hospital to send the bill to the NHS seems a lot better than paying for insurance but eh. I thought the whole point was that the EHIC wasn't going to be valid any more (or not for much longer) Also I have heard horror stories about EHIC, in that they'll pay for basic stuff but it doesn't cover everything (e.g. emergency evac etc) so you can still be hit with an insane bill
|
|
#
¿
Nov 17, 2021 13:55
|
|
|
fuctifino posted:I didn't mean that to come across as a snap to you, but to the situation in general. I have a few severely disabled friends who are really struggling to cope with the thought that they are probably going to be trapped on this island for the rest of their lives. The mental therapy of being able to leave this poo poo hole for 1-2 weeks is immeasurable, as will be the effects of that door being closed. Yeah obviously for very severely disabled people it's going to be a lot more. Maybe Gibraltar will develop a flourishing new tourist industry from the UK to take advantage of the new barriers to the EU.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 17, 2021 13:58
|
|
|
Regarde Aduck posted:'terrorism' has a negative connotation by consensus. So no, the majority of people would not recognise something as 'justified' or 'good' terrorism. Which means you shouldn't use it that way if you want a conversation to go anywhere. 'Terrorism' is a purely strategic term and holds no moral weight in itself
|
|
#
¿
Nov 17, 2021 15:36
|
|
|
Jaeluni Asjil posted:In my wildest fantasies, an extreme left government would be elected and use all this tory legislation against tories and other far right excuses for human beings. I mean the distinction is pretty clear cut once you stop pretending liberals are remotely left wing.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 17, 2021 15:39
|
|
|
radmonger posted:True, in the same sense that neither does genocide or rape. Oh give over e: This former supermodel lady turned absolutely insane turbo tankie is now going full 'taliban are good actually', jfc https://twitter.com/SameeraKhan/status/1460663496295821321?s=20 Whenever I look at these people I think I really should probably pick a side one way or the other, I'm getting tired of being accused of being on the CIA payroll by people with anime profile pics while also being called a tankie war crime-enjoyer by centrists. I guess I have to choose which is less egregious though - 'Long Live Bashar Al-Assad, the Lion of Syria', or 'Xi Jinping literally drinks the blood of Uyghur children with his cornflakes in the morning'. Neither really speak to me if I'm honest. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Nov 17, 2021 |
|
#
¿
Nov 17, 2021 17:04
|
|
|
radmonger posted:You seem to have things backwards. It is difficult, probably impossible, to find such examples precisely because those who choose to do such things are not good moral actors. If they were, they would, by definition, have chosen some other course of action. Almost every single person who has ever used force to oppose the political status quo has been designated a terrorist by the authorities at the time, and many of them have used tactics that are recognisable terrorist tactics. It's pretty absurd to claim that every single one of them was a 'bad person', whatever that means, and completely asinine to compare 'terrorism' as a concept with something like rape.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 17, 2021 19:26
|
|
|
Is there really any reason we couldn't have negotiated a Switzerland or Norway-like situation if the govt had actually put the effort in?
|
|
#
¿
Nov 18, 2021 15:12
|
|
|
keep punching joe posted:The reason being that Theresa May set negotiating red lines which were fundamentally opposed to how the EU functions i.e. The free movement of people, goods, and services. Yeah really pretty obvious now you say it. I guess it's good that the impact seems likely to be slow frustrating pointlessly masochistic and lingering, rather than 'complete supply chain collapse'. Though I still have no real idea how things are still functioning even at the level they are given how the government completely shat the bed on everything and doesn't seem to have any real agreement on EU imports etc. How are we still able to buy brie and whatever? Are we in yet another extended 'transition period'? Honestly I've not been keeping up with Brexit stuff since the pandemic started. I met a headteacher the other day and she was saying the first she knew about her school closing way back at the start of the pandemic was when she saw it on the news when she was sitting in get pjs the night before lol. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Nov 18, 2021 |
|
#
¿
Nov 18, 2021 15:38
|
|
|
Also lol at the people talking about NI businesses reorienting their supply chains to the EU from the UK. The Tories are actually going to directly cause Irish reunification aren't they. And/or reignite the troubles. I guess reunification would probably do that anyway, only it would be the UVF setting off most of the car bombs
|
|
#
¿
Nov 18, 2021 15:43
|
|
|
Ravel posted:I'm not looking forward to all the pomp and coverage around Charles' coronation and accession. It'll be kind of cool to have a new face on the coins I guess for about three minutes
|
|
#
¿
Nov 18, 2021 17:55
|
|
|
Finkelstein is a very cool lad who is absolutely up to here with people cynically exploiting his parent's memory to legitimise far right political projects iirc
|
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2021 13:26
|
|
|
I'm probably opening a can of worms here but I do find something pretty uncomfortable in the idea that any particular historical event can be considered static and immutable, with a single agreed upon 'correct' narrative and no scope for interpretation, and for that to be legally enforced. It seems to contradict the whole point of the historical discipline. I don't think that position implies that the holocaust was anything less than the horrific thing it was.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 21, 2021 14:24
|
|
|
OwlFancier posted:
I actually really disagree with this. Trump is extremely charismatic, and not much else. It's a very weird charisma that gels with his irreverent (though ofc totally superficial) anti-establishment image, but you don't draw crowds like that and win a the presidency as an initial joke candidate outsider without something about you.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 24, 2021 12:16
|
|
|
christ I remember this lmao
|
|
#
¿
Nov 25, 2021 19:47
|
|
|
DesperateDan posted:I did TNG and then DS9 all the way through with my younger lad over the last year or two or three- You're absolutely right about TNG but honestly I enjoyed a lot of the filler because part of what I loved about the show was the soapy stuff, getting to know the characters and seeing them interact and be normal flawed people with dumb problems in addition to being hotshot Starfleet officers. Necrothatcher posted:I made it 15 minutes into Lower Decks and gave up. Does it improve? Are you mad, Lower Decks is great! It's really cool that they commissioned it as an actual official canon Trek that can use the same characters etc but they let themselves have fun with it and don't take themselves at all seriously, unlike some of the mainline entries.
|
|
#
¿
Nov 25, 2021 20:03
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 12, 2024 13:54 |
|
|
I got my booster the other week and unlike the first two times when it was kindly middle-aged nurses who were very patient, this one was delivered by a very gruff forces lad in camo who had no time for my civvy bullshit, quite an experience
|
|
#
¿
Nov 30, 2021 18:02
|
|