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Mormon Star Wars posted:The jihad and the "victory" he leads them to isn't their victory - why would the Fremen want to wage a galactic war when their beef is that they just want to be left alone? - and it ultimately leads to the destruction of their entire society. By the end, there are only larpers pretending to be Fremen. Because so long as Dune is the only source of spice, they are not going to be left alone. So long as the galactic population outnumbers them a million to one, they are not going to be winning any defensive wars. The strategic logic of the situation demands jihad. Paul’s atomics, and the Spacers’ Guild hardcore spice addiction, makes jihad. possible. That which is both necessary and possible happens. It might seem a bit implausible that the few million Fremen would win an offensive war, outside their home territory, against populations of hundreds of billions. But you can fill in the blanks as to what happens when the new Fremen empire can sterilize any planet that resists too hard;. Readings of Dune where Paul is the villain because of a decision to start a jihad _after_ conquering Arrakis are not really supported by the text. Instead; the parallels between Doctor Yueh and Paul are strong, and probably intentional. Both take a single dramatic action, motivated by revenge, that does change history. Neither has any agency in how the consequences play out.
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PeterWeller posted:
‘Orientalism’, broadly defined, is the fallacy of thinking that the things that people most value about their own culture is the things that make it distinctive. For example, defining ‘Fremen culture’ solely by the elements that make interesting notBBC holodocumentaries telling the rest of the galaxy about the noble ways of the desert tribes. In terms of actual Fremen culture, it is nonsense. What Fremen culturally want is to turn Arrakis into a paradise planet. Which means no deserts, and so no worms. And no spice, except perhaps whatever minimal amount you can get from dwarf sandworms in zoos. They have been working on that very hard for a very long time. Not only is the book quite clear on that, a film that leaves out every possible background detail it can spends a whole scene explaining it.
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Nov 24, 2021 15:52
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Alhazred posted:That comparison is kinda flawed considering Lawrence knew that the cause the arabs were fighting for was a lie and that arab indepence was not on the table. Probably the better historical model is the British general who founded the Arab Legion, and ended up leading it in the 1948 War with Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bagot_Glubb
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