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I've had the foggy notions of an idea rolling around in my head that All Might is a cop, and the hero rankings/merchandising is an extrapolation of capitalist exploitation in a supernatural society but maybe i'm too terminally online and it's just Joss Whedon's Cape poo poo: Japan
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OP are you conflating Orwell with Huxley?
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Nov 18, 2021 23:00
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Thanos lacked the conviction to see his task through to its end.
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Nov 30, 2021 15:12
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That is, forgive me, insanely stupid. Does Thanos think that every reproduction is planned based on the material situation of the parents? What part of the snap makes practicing to reproduce less fun/enticing?
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Nov 30, 2021 19:12
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Raenir Salazar posted:I think its less the specific number of people only that at least on Titan were already at the precipice and needed to do something drastic immediately. If we assume that Thanos felt that this was the same elsewhere, that galactic civilization was nearing the tipping point of self-destruction; the issue isn't people having too many children, its the socio-economic decisions made up until that tipping point and with a hard reset people can make better decisions so when the population regrows back it is done so sustainably. Right, but socioeconomic decisions/circumstances don't always reflect on whether or not a pair of mates reproduces. If you consider the idea that there are various galactic civilizations across various stages of evolutionary/societal development, a planetary society that gets its, Neanderthal-level population numbers wiped out by half isn't necessarily going to see the error of their ways that they...haven't committed yet. A theoretical low-development planetary species without some sort of effective birth control is still going to reproduce at whatever rate it was before the snap. The more and more you "zoom out" on Thanos' big picture, the less and less it makes sense. I submit once again, that Thanos was just a half-assed Zamasu.
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Nov 30, 2021 19:58
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Raenir Salazar posted:It doesn't seem like an uninsurmountable leap of the imagination to me. Simply put the most advanced civilizations that got snapped presumably all recover first; and if Thanos is right then they all engage in more responsible conservation and stewardship of their resources and then as part of their new duty will the moment a newcomer civilization arrives on the scene that hasn't internalized those lessons will go and apply peer pressure on the late comers to develop sustainably. What kind of peer pressure? How would you resolve the inherent class struggle of "those elitist ayliums from omicron persei 8 have flying sun powered cars but they're telling us we're not allowed to burn our dead dinosaurs so we can move food from the field to the market!"? Then again, expecting anything out of Whedon's brain to come anywhere close to class analytics is trying to judge a goldfish by its ability to climb a tree, so maybe I'm just swinging at ghosts here. Guavanaut posted:Is there an Evangelical movie equivalent where the big villain has a gauntlet that does education for women and girls and incentivized long term contraception until they're ready to start a family? No joke, I've got a customer file with Kevin Sorbo's phone number in it. A far less scrupulous me might pitch this to him anonymously to see if he bites.
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Nov 30, 2021 20:34
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Raenir Salazar posted:Whedon didn't direct Infinity War, and I'm not sure what point you're making here; why does class struggle have to do with anything? You're not making a consistent argument here; no one is saying Thanos's argument is logically sound, only that it can make sense from a certain point of view. The whole point if you can't make a counter argument to it, that couldn't with enough effort be handwaved or atlas shrugged away. I'm just trying to workshop how the lesser-developed society might react to a more advanced society's missives about how to develop The Right Way. Does the further advanced society just hand over the most cutting edge technology, or are there important societal lessons to be learned culturally as a society evolves technologically? Either you're giving a more primitive society dangerous technology that's not viably sustainable at the current stage of planetary evolution or you sit in your ivory tower and tell them "no not like that" every time they make an advancement that we know from experience can be troublesome in the long run. When one society has flying space cars that poo poo out drinkable water and they're telling a developing society "no you can't have road cars that burn fuel" you're going to create at the very least an illusion of class struggle.
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Nov 30, 2021 20:50
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Would Thanosian foreign policy be based on economic sanctions?
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Nov 30, 2021 21:28
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Epic High Five posted:I think we're on the same page more or less then, I'll admit I've mostly been viewing this in terms of how it'd play out in our contemporary world and not the analysis of it in the films, which I can't really speak to beyond the stuff I got through osmosis here and in broader popular culture. I think it's easy to write a scenario where it mostly worked out, but it'd be a whole lot messier in reality and it relies on assuming critical systems for advanced civilization are a lot more robust than they are in practice, and it doesn't seem like that's a controversial opinion. This is sort of where I'm coming at it from, too, sort of from the perspective of say, someone from Asgard showed up and started yelling at us that like, our use of radio broadcast waves is actually contributing to the acceleration of the heat death of the universe or something, and trying to figure out how your average rural Trump voter might accept or refuse the missive.
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