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Antifa Turkeesian posted:About Dune, I get that the larger book series might critique things like dynastic rule and cool intrigue with nobility etc, but the first book validates eugenics by showing that it works and makes the great man model of history look cool by showing that it works. Herbert might criticize those ideas elsewhere, but I think you have to admit that the first book thinks they’re interesting because it’s all about them. And nobody would read or enjoy it if the truth of the novel were contained in another novel. No, the first novel is explicitly a deconstruction of that form and refutation of all those ideas. Paul's accession directly causes a universe-wide genocide of tens of billions, including dozens of religions and all their followers, and exterminating all life on nearly a hundred worlds. He knows that will result and does it anyway. This is stated outright in the text of the novel. FH may have written the sequel partly because people weren't getting it, but that's not because the original is a bog-standard hero's journey making the argument that genetic supermen and charismatic messiah figures are morally superior to you and deserve to rule; some people are just dumb. Fuschia tude fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Dune was released as a serialized story in analog and galaxy magazine. The first two books are just packaging of a continuous work. Dune being book 1,2 and 3, and messiah being 4 and 5. Analog serialized the first story in two sequences, in 1963 and 1965 (basically corresponding to first Books I, and then Books II and III, respectively, in the bound published novel). Galaxy serialized Messiah four years after the publication of Dune and six years after Analog first launched the series. Messiah absolutely was not written in 1958-1965 with the first novel what the hell
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