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Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

Knormal posted:

Wait, is this why everyone keeps talking about Aaron Rogers lately?

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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

rain dogs posted:

I'm workin

From home?

Anyway, I think Derpies is on to something. I'm both a chronic masturbator and svelte. This can't be a coincidence.

EA Sports
Feb 10, 2007

by Azathoth
constantly remind yourself and everyone around you aslong as you live in a society that forces people to prey on your vices nothing can be trusted.
an obese eater gets magic 3d floating pizza deals sent to their email inbox, forlorns get anti-depressant/psychotics/sedatives offered to them by doctors who they've been led to believe their whole lives they can trust,
perverts get weird sibbling/childlike/abusive pornograpy. you live on an island in a pig poo poo lagoon of a culture. you can only trust your body, and you better hope it's competent enough.

only eat when hungry, and make sure your legs/trunk/upper body get a work out once a day. don't eat because someone told you you need 2000 calories,
dont eat because its a set time period to eat, like dinner. specifically train yourself to not eat when nervous/excited/hedonistic, alot of people forget what hunger actually is,
you must fast until you relearn it.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
As previously mentioned, this is a problem that will solve itself eventually. Either people start dying at 30 because they’re too fat to live, or a massive wave of displaced economic and/or climate refugees will invade the country to eat the extremely calorie-dense populace.

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009
With massive sin taxes on corn syrup and junk food, that’s how I’d do it. Enhealthen the population and make money that could be spent on other things like education at the same time. Yeah the government will never do this but that’s how I’d do it. Be like “yeah your product objectively makes people unhealthier and provides nothing, so we’re gonna tax the hell out of it.”

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
honestly i thought we were doing worse than the map in the OP, so keep it up america.

Icochet posted:

The medical establishment should officially endorse cake. Millions of people would stop eating cake and start ramming celery up their rear end or something
probably this. that map seems to have some overlay with political alignment so have democratic elites espouse the benefits of having a deep frier in every household and how eating a half dozen frozen pizzas each week is the woke thing to do.

Les Os
Mar 29, 2010
I will personally suck it all out of everyone’s bellies

great big cardboard tube
Sep 3, 2003


Educate people that calories you drink are the same as calories you eat. Pretty sure that alone would go miles

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009

great big cardboard tube posted:

Educate people that calories you drink are the same as calories you eat. Pretty sure that alone would go miles

People won’t care. People’s lives suck and they just do stuff that feels good, that’s why there’s such a heroin problem in this country. To actually change anything you have to make it harder to get stuff that actively kills people. Make eating healthy cheaper and more enjoyable than eating stuff that will shorten your lifespan.

Edit: and some people are like “oooh, that’s government interfering with the free market or “oooh, nanny state!” But you know what, the US government already gives a poo poo-ton of corporate welfare to the corn producers who produce high fructose corn syrup, there’s an absolute loving ton of Ag subsidies in this country. That ship of government non-interference with the market has sailed.

Sucrose fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Nov 14, 2021

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins
I’d take everybody’s food and eat it all.

Extra row of tits
Oct 31, 2020
Have Obama record a “secretly filmed” conversation where he discusses a plan to take over America by making everyone fat.

Treecko
Apr 23, 2008

The Official Demon Girl
Boss of 2022!
Just turn off the internet and go outsiiiide. Fight a tree or something.

I don't think obesity happens just because people are lazy and uneducated, though there's some of that at play too. A lot of people are just very depressed whether they realize it or not. Health services are out of reach for a lot of Americans and we just sit and watch or read depressing stuff all day.

It's just easier to plop down and mow through a bag of chips and a pack of Oreos because everything else takes too much effort and poo poo you already had to drag yourself out of bed and go to work, what else can you do?

great big cardboard tube
Sep 3, 2003



I get that and I'm also very familiar with the meme of the fat person ordering a diet coke with their super size meal but I work retail and I'll just say I can really see the difference between the people buying water or another 0 calorie drink and those with the bottle of coke even if they both buy a bag of chips with it.

That's without even going into alcohol where yeah... you can essentially be drinking a loaf of bread in a night and people just view it as recreation not diet.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Eeeeeuugggh Wizard Master

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Tell everyone to suck a male camel's dick.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

wesleywillis posted:

Tell everyone to suck a male camel's dick.

How many calories in the cum though that seems like it could be a lot

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

One thing I would do is put my hand on the shoulder of every obese person and say

"Hey champ, stop being such a fat loving moron all the goddamn time, you idiot cock sucker"

And then fly away

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde
Increase taxes proportionally to caloric density for anything other than raw ingredients. Make a jar of nutella cost $50, and watch America's waistline shrink.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 36 hours!
Just do 9/11 but about make it about weight loss instead of murdering Arabs that’s the last time I remember everyone agreeing about stuff

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Dixville posted:

How many calories in the cum though that seems like it could be a lot

Hmmm good point.

Maybe if they don't swallow. Or share or something.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
i understand that structurally postin on gbs is nonseriouspostin op but the actual soln to this has already come out from medium-size pharma, novo nordisk put out a dealio called semaglutide. incretin mimic / glp1 agonist. whacks your weight by 15% (from 5% to 30%). once weekly autoinjection.

originally the whole class was diabetes drugs but peeps kept on finding that peeps lost weight on it and the pharma corp said "poo poo, we want that" so they redid the studies to find out how much weight it loses you and here they are https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2032183

the problem is that the thing costs usd 1400 / mo and no insurance will cover it. but obesity medicines are never covered because they're like 5 bux amphetamines like phentermine or they boil your eyeballs like dnp. so rich peeps will get thin. you know the first step will be taken when reid hoffman, probably the fattest billionaire, mysteriously turns to a normal weight

also now that pharma has a viable target they'll make a dozen copycats because everyone knows that a serious effective obesity drug that isnt an amphetamine and doesnt boil your eyeballs will prolly become the first trillion dollar drug

bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Nov 14, 2021

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:
People need to have a genuine and compelling reason not to be fat, because right now the negatives (-15% lifespan) don't outweigh the positives (+200% burrito consumption). Therefore I propose that everyone under 22.5 BMI gets to throw one rock at Wizard Master.

Xaintrailles fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Nov 14, 2021

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
the pharma companies didnt have a good drug previously because they didnt have a good target previously. they tried leptin, NPY5, galanin, CB-1, D1 dopa, serotonin poo poo, etc etc before and didn't get a serious hit before they found GLP1 agonist will do the job. So it'll probably be a proper deluge by 2030 and we might have competition that dulls the price tag a bit. Or we might not, pharma is pharma

https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/glp-1-and-obesity

no behavioral modification at the state level has ever succeeded in making peeps less fat than before. japan is at a low level of fatness but that low level is a huge increase from levels at 1960 forex. things that have been effective was societal-level breakdown like venezuela in the last decade.

no diet plan or plan of exercise works as well as glp1 agonists, by a margin of like 2 to 1 in liraglutide and a lot more in semaglutide. the modifications made to glp1 to make liraglutide and semaglutide have previously been almost exclusively to make them last longer in the body (because glp1 lasts like 10 minutes and you can't exactly inject poo poo every 10 minutes), not serious gain of efficacy

apparently cost of goods sold for semaglutide is like 60% of that 1400/mo price. poo poo is not an easy synthesis

bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Nov 14, 2021

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

druuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggsssssss

Valko
Sep 18, 2015

Sucrose posted:

With massive sin taxes on corn syrup and junk food, that’s how I’d do it. Enhealthen the population and make money that could be spent on other things like education at the same time. Yeah the government will never do this but that’s how I’d do it. Be like “yeah your product objectively makes people unhealthier and provides nothing, so we’re gonna tax the hell out of it.”

I was going to post something serious until I saw your username!

A tax on HFCS might work in theory but I've noticed draconian taxes on tobacco and alcohol don't stop people from smoking or drinking.

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

Valko posted:

noticed draconian taxes on tobacco and alcohol don't stop people from smoking or drinking.

% of US adults that smoke is down to 14% from 21% (source).

Of course it's a combination of taxes and laws that discourage smoking indoors.

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

free lobotomies for grown-rear end adults who won’t eat anything that isn’t beige

Crimson Harvest
Jul 14, 2004

I'm a GENERAL, not some opera floozy!
No amount of regressive bullshit tax is going to help people who got where they are because of the snowball effect of poverty and lack of mental health care access.

I could solve this poo poo for myself in a few years if I had enough money to take care of all the stupid garbage drowning me, but lmao at the idea of managing to do anything but prolong the misery the way our health/work/disability laws and benefits work.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
every socioeconomic group broken out separately has gotten appreciably fatter. billionaires to the destitute. every mental health group broken out separately, from the completely hale to the criminally institutionalized

no food industry in any country has been successfully moderated in getting people fatter, up to and including north korea, where after years of (relative, lol) prosperity they are now making antiobesity cartoons and poo poo

no public health intervention has ever succeeded in any way in a lasting manner to get peeps to be less fat. no examples.

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

I feel 10 pounds lighter after a proper milking

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
What you need is a poorly thought out land reform

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

bob dobbs is dead posted:

every socioeconomic group broken out separately has gotten appreciably fatter. billionaires to the destitute. every mental health group broken out separately, from the completely hale to the criminally institutionalized

no food industry in any country has been successfully moderated in getting people fatter, up to and including north korea, where after years of (relative, lol) prosperity they are now making antiobesity cartoons and poo poo

no public health intervention has ever succeeded in any way in a lasting manner to get peeps to be less fat. no examples.

Do you have a good paper/review on this?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
the mental health data i know is proprietary but the complete failure of public health intervention is well known

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(11)60813-1/fulltext

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
watch a snippet from the cartoon here

https://twitter.com/ColinZwirko/status/1429259662759653376

before glp1 agonists, bariatric surgery was the only reliably effective way to whack obesity. and it does whack it, but you can't give 2 billion peeps a surgery whereas you can totally give them a drug. based upon the efficacy of increasingly smaller gastric surgery dealios, the ultimate cause is almost certainly endocrine and bariatric surgery is really an excision of the endocrine part of the gastric organs

bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Nov 14, 2021

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

for real though our collective food culture is embarrassingly shallow and bankrupt and thats near-universal

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

curlys gold posted:

for real though our collective food culture is embarrassingly shallow and bankrupt and thats near-universal

the deep and worthwhile food cultures like france and china are also gettin fat

the other thing militating for endocrine causes and against dietary-and-exercise causes is hunter-gatherers, who are uniformly thin and vary ridiculously tremendously in diet and exercise.

you might think a varied diet is it, but the !kung san before western contact ate 50% of their calories in mongongo nuts only and don't get fat. notably they also have a season where mongongo nuts are in insane abundance so they just also had a comparable-to-the-west sedentary lifestyle for that whole season. not fat.

you might think it's the lack of processed sugars, but the hazda of tanzania get 15% of the calories in their diet from honey and don't get fat. the mbuti of the congo have a season where it's more like 80%. the kuna of panama get processed sugars from trade (but do not do industry and stay away from industrialized areas otherwise) and are still not fat. kitava in melanesia was 70% carbs and not fat before contact.

on the fat side the hunting-and-gathering pre-western-contact inuit ate 50% of their calories from fat and were not fat. maasai peeps did not eat any carbs and also were not fat.

it's something in civilization that makes you fat not the eating.

bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Nov 14, 2021

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
Corn Syrup corn syrup corn syrup. That is 90% of the cause and the solution isn’t some weak rear end liberal “educate people on what’s unhealthy about it and expect them to make healthy choices.” bs that never works. Wanna know why corn syrup is in goddamn everything? And it is legit in every single American food product.
1: Corn subsidies are larger than all other crop subsidies combined.
2: The state refuses to set limits on how much corn syrup you can inject into every food product.
So either stop making it so cheap to shovel corn syrup into everything through gargantuan subsidies, or better yet just outright limit putting it in food the same way we limit how much asbestos you can put in. Cut it off at the source and treat the cause not the symptom. Believe it or not most people will not even notice that what they’re shoveling into their mouth is no longer half corn syrup.

Sex Tragedy
Jan 28, 2007

father of three with an extra large butt
Food regulation and public PUNISHMENT AND HUMILIATION for junk food execs. A Hussar class trained in a new type of athletic vr will administer.

ChunTheUnavoidable
Sep 27, 2021

maybe they should go for a little jog… when they get home they can eat some carrots or lettuce

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bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

galagazombie posted:

Corn Syrup corn syrup corn syrup. That is 90% of the cause and the solution isn’t some weak rear end liberal “educate people on what’s unhealthy about it and expect them to make healthy choices.” bs that never works. Wanna know why corn syrup is in goddamn everything? And it is legit in every single American food product.
1: Corn subsidies are larger than all other crop subsidies combined.
2: The state refuses to set limits on how much corn syrup you can inject into every food product.
So either stop making it so cheap to shovel corn syrup into everything through gargantuan subsidies, or better yet just outright limit putting it in food the same way we limit how much asbestos you can put in. Cut it off at the source and treat the cause not the symptom. Believe it or not most people will not even notice that what they’re shoveling into their mouth is no longer half corn syrup.

the united kingdom consumes 0.38kg of hfcs per person per year as opposed to americans' 25 kg/person/year. similar ratios for normal corn syrup, the typical syrup there is golden syrup from sugarcane. yet they manage to be fat.

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