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Thing is, people can be fat and still be healthy and active. It’s a sedentary lifestyle that’ll kill ya. I can be considered tubby, but I have zero health problems and remain active with tons of stamina because I hate sitting around doing nothing. I’m not going to be in that statistic. But yes, kill BIG CORN’s agenda of putting corn syrup in every loving thing and watch no one notice.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the deep and worthwhile food cultures like france and china are also gettin fat no poo poo
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Nov 14, 2021 14:22
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if it was something with the food, there would be exceptions to the industrialization => fattening example. they don't have any drat coca cola in north korea and yet as they have industrialized they've gotten to comparable overweight levels to south korea (much less obesity - but much less time being industrialized) at the literal same time as 40% undernourishment in non-industrialized places and it was not industrialization in general, it was something that happened or had its ultimate consequences very specifically in the 70s  they had coca-cola nationally distributed by the 1940s, can't be it bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 14:29
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the deep and worthwhile food cultures like france and china are also gettin fat Mongongo nuts lol. Good name for a nut
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Nov 14, 2021 14:32
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Has anyone suggested letting the fat people eat all they want so they'll die off faster and leave behind the people who have some self control? And I understand that some of the obesity rate is due to poor people who live in areas where they don't have access to cheap and healthy food, but that's never getting fixed because it would require socialist policies.
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Nov 14, 2021 14:38
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poor peeps were thin before the 70s
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Nov 14, 2021 14:41
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bob dobbs is dead posted:poor peeps were thin before the 70s IE, before widespread distribution of cheap fast food.
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Nov 14, 2021 14:42
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Yaldabaoth posted:IE, before widespread distribution of cheap fast food. automats were invented in the 1890s and had proliferated by the 1920s throughout the industrialized world. if you've been to a dutch febo it's basically faster and comparably healthy to mcdonalds. can't be it peeps self-regulate their appetites homeostatically. this extends all the way to the lipostatic mechanisms of homeostasis (all the previous failed obesity drug targets are essential parts of the human lipostat - peeps thought that glp1 was less important but maybe not). this homeostasis is hosed in obesity, and the bad food that peeps eat is a consequence, not a cause, of rapid and huge increases in appetite from the underlying endocrine cause of obesity. maybe there's some cyclical action going on, but if you whack the appetite problem the rest of society will change to fit that i think we need to issue the drugs first, and then diet and exercise will follow, those two are just expressions of the underlying homeostatic demand bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 14:44
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I blame the school system.
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Nov 14, 2021 14:49
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Solution: Siege, until the fattest get eaten.
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Nov 14, 2021 14:52
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Falling sperm count means less swimming in the balls. Balls used to burn calories like crazy
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Nov 14, 2021 14:54
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bob dobbs is dead posted:automats were invented in the 1890s and had proliferated by the 1920s throughout the industrialized world. if you've been to a dutch febo it's basically faster and comparably healthy to mcdonalds. can't be it the drug that kills mindless appetite is a healthy relationship with cooking and whole foods
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Nov 14, 2021 14:56
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Surgically insert a fish or frog into the balls and the pounds will just melt away
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Nov 14, 2021 14:57
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ultimate cause is prolly something to do w mining or resource extraction, because nauru is a tiny island in the pacific, home to 11k peeps, 80% mined out for phosphorus, the water severely contaminated and is the single fattest polity in the world. 3% of nauru is not overweight
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Nov 14, 2021 15:01
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curlys gold posted:the drug that kills mindless appetite is a healthy relationship with cooking and whole foods bullshit, the french have that and they're gettin fat baselines are different but the slopes are aaaallll positive
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Nov 14, 2021 15:01
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bob dobbs is dead posted:bullshit, the french have that and they're gettin fat I have a hard time taking you seriously because you’re talking about native populations with millennias-old subsistence food practices being completely sabotaged by our culinary abominations and you attribute it to mining.
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Nov 14, 2021 15:07
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curlys gold posted:I have a hard time taking you seriously because you’re talking about native populations with millennias-old subsistence food practices being completely sabotaged by our culinary abominations and you attribute it to mining. the mining was from colonialism too, but it poisoned them and the effects of the poison was bein fat. indigenous foodways are extremely nonuniform up to and including culinary sophistication and levels of processing by hand and somehow not a one of them lead to peeps being fat. if a thing varies and doesn't change something else, it can't be the cause of that something else, you know? lotta resource extraction goes on in every one of these polities, and all of it growin bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 15:09
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Play that ish like Uncle Sam
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Nov 14, 2021 15:10
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People aren't supposed to sit at a computer all day or a television all night, hope this helps.
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Nov 14, 2021 15:15
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I'd say sadly most people I've known or even met don't know how to cook, and I mean at all, not just well. And it's for a variety of reasons. But the gist is people don't really cook. I'm not even a brilliant genius chef (I am pretty good tho) and people think I'm a fucken witch for cooking meals on the spot without instructions or recipes. It's weird and kind of sad honestly. A lot of people are also very unhappy with the situation but don't know how or have the means to change it. It was pretty exemplified with my place. I like cooking and it gives a chance to experiment, so for a minimal contribution a week (like, cost of a single fast food meal) I cook almost every night, and if I don't that's fine cause people are capable. But most people who come over think it's insane that everyone gets a healthy (most of the time) cooked meal almost every night, because honestly it is loving weird,
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Nov 14, 2021 15:19
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benitocereno posted:People aren't supposed to sit at a computer all day or a television all night, hope this helps. lindeberg noted that kitava peoples of melanesia do only like 10% more exercise than americans. not fat. somehow peeps in civilization do not lose the 50 lb delta between kitavans and americans by increasing exercise 10% he concluded that the whole plant foods diet that they ate was the cause. but whole plant food diet peeps in america are continually getting fatter, plus all the other diets that indigenous peeps have who i mentioned, so i don't think that's it bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 15:20
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Derpies posted:have people tried tuggin maybe tug more I've tugged a lot and I'm still too fat.
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Nov 14, 2021 15:23
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bob dobbs is dead posted:
micro plastics with all their endocrine disruptors?
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Nov 14, 2021 15:23
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lunar detritus posted:micro plastics with all their endocrine disruptors? could be, but micoplastics are omnipresent and go completely and actually truly everywhere whereas indigenous peeps who are stayin indigenous are not getting fat so it can't be something that's absolutely everywhere, it's something that's omnipresent but only in civilization
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Nov 14, 2021 15:25
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If I had a dollar for every time I went to a vegan household party expecting some dope vegetables but instead found just a table filled with imitation meat pockets and cookies I’d have at least like four dollars.
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Nov 14, 2021 15:32
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also its prolly something affected by gravity in some way because if you look at county level obesity levels you can literally see appalachia's southern border thing
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Nov 14, 2021 15:34
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Don't a lot of the indigenous populations who still rely on their traditional practices (hunter gatherering for the most part) and not on so called "civilized" living, like 24/7 access to big macs and baconators straight up just starve on a somewhat regular basis?
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Nov 14, 2021 15:35
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bob dobbs is dead posted:also its prolly something affected by gravity in some way because if you look at county level obesity levels you can literally see appalachia's southern border thing I thought you might be on to something but you have lost me with this gravity thing lmao
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Nov 14, 2021 15:36
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wesleywillis posted:Don't a lot of the indigenous populations who still rely on their traditional practices (hunter gatherering for the most part) and not on so called "civilized" living, like 24/7 access to big macs and baconators straight up just starve on a somewhat regular basis? pre-contact inuit and masai yes. kitavans and hunter-gatherer !kung no. bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 15:36
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Caesar Saladin posted:I thought you might be on to something but you have lost me with this gravity thing lmao like, mining runoffs mainly an excuse to post that map. just what a fuckin map
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Nov 14, 2021 15:36
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The OP has failed to show that this is a crisis. Sure, there are lots more fat people than there were at other times. What is the crisis?
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Nov 14, 2021 15:39
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bob dobbs is dead posted:also its prolly something affected by gravity in some way because if you look at county level obesity levels you can literally see appalachia's southern border thing Live in Appalachia - it's because you can't walk anywhere without climbing a hill and the people who live here tend to be pretty active. Hunting, hiking, etc. I don't think it's necessarily about exercise, I think it's about day to day lifestyle. Lots of people, for example, don't count cutting firewood as exercise. It is!
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benitocereno posted:Live in Appalachia - it's because you can't walk anywhere without climbing a hill and the people who live here tend to be pretty active. Hunting, hiking, etc. but actual appalachia, incl. west virgina the appalachiaest part of appalachia, is fat as hell, correlated remarkably well with the coal mining region  so one entire side of the mountain range where they did all the mining is fat as hell, the other side is the thinnest part of the south bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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benitocereno posted:Live in Appalachia - it's because you can't walk anywhere without climbing a hill and the people who live here tend to be pretty active. Hunting, hiking, etc. Does Knoxville count as Appalachia? Because I moved there from Australia as a kid and the first thing I noticed was how fat all the kids at school were and how fat their parents were.
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Nov 14, 2021 15:42
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The americans dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Appalachia..
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Nov 14, 2021 15:44
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the mental health data i know is proprietary but the complete failure of public health intervention is well known TY. I think it's saying that public health measures have never been seriously tried, rather than that they aren't effective. The throw-things-at-bad-posters plan is still on the table.
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Nov 14, 2021 15:46
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Replace food deserts with meth oasises and slowly rejigger all the corn farmers into meth farmers
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Nov 14, 2021 15:50
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CPL593H posted:2/3 of the country is cornfields and everything that's not a major metropolitan area has poo poo awful public transportation. Fix that probably. Public transport people to cornfields and also grow corn in major metropolitan areas is the platform my party runs on.
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Colonel Cancer posted:Replace food deserts with meth oasises and slowly rejigger all the corn farmers into meth farmers have you even been to the midwest? this was done a decade ago. still fat
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my other mining example is cyprus, where the main industry was extractive open pit copper mining from the 4th millenium bc til the 1990s. fattest polity in europe
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