Self Hosting: It's like being a prepper for the cloudpocalypse

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hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

What are people's backup strategies with self hosting stuff with Docker, do you stop containers before backing up their volumes/folders?

# ¿ Feb 16, 2023 01:12

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 23:07

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Well Played Mauer posted:

If I were interested in starting to host some services on a machine that isn't in my house, how would I go about searching for guides?

My thinking would be to use the domain I have for internal https certs and email, buy some hosting through dreamhost or whatever, and running some goofy poo poo like pastebins or an RSS reader that I don't have to Tailscale into. Just low risk stuff that if someone gets into the machine, they're not getting anything personal or valuable. Mostly I want to learn how to do it without exposing my home network.

I'm just not sure if that's called anything special, so trying to figure out where to start.

I would recommend looking into VPS services, I use Hetzner for example. It will give you a small server you can SSH into and not really worry about. DigitalOcean is another option, and they have a decent amount of guides as well (which apply to most VPS services).

If you want to actually buy a physical machine and put it in some random house... make sure you have permission first.

# ¿ Feb 18, 2023 20:38

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

I have wireguard setup, but have failed to be able to access my DNS (by adguard home) through it so far. Everything else works, but this part just bugs me.

# ¿ May 11, 2023 00:38

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Nitrousoxide posted:

Are you using docker/podman? If so what does your run/compose/systemd entry look like to start the container?

I am using Docker to run both wireguard and adguard home. Both are pretty standard setups and I haven't done any network magic (mostly because I don't know what config would fix the issue)

Adguard Home is just running the container (adguard/adguardhome) with the proper ports open. I can access it fine on the local network as long as I am not connecting through wireguard.

For wireguard I am using https://github.com/perara/wg-manager but I will probably change it to wg-easy. Basically running the compose that is in there.

Edit: I switched to wg-easy and it is so much better. It also has a guide for use with pihole that I followed (modifying for adguard home) and it seems to be working! https://github.com/WeeJeWel/wg-easy/wiki/Using-WireGuard-Easy-with-Pi-Hole

hogofwar fucked around with this message at 11:48 on May 12, 2023

# ¿ May 11, 2023 12:02

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

I've pretty much maxed out my google photos space, but I have plenty of room to host something myself. Any recommendations for running something akin to my own google photos?

# ¿ Jun 28, 2023 15:28

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Nitrousoxide posted:

What's wrong with Immich? I've heard nothing but good stuff about it, other than it still being in really active development and putting stuff into that might be risky due to breaking changes between versions.

As for me personally, I currently just use Nextcloud which seems to work well enough for me as it auto-uploads any new photos I take. The sharing functionality for albums and such isn't amazing though.

I'm trying out Nextcloud (with Memories) and it seems to work... okay. The pain point for me is not great android app integration and it's just slow as hell. I'll give Immich a shot at some point as well. I think Immich does store media in a custom way, but should be fine for me.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2023 16:16

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Resdfru posted:

Self hosting photos is one thing I decided to never do cause I didn't wanna be responsible for it. So I pay Google for a couple terabytes and call it a day. But lately I've been worrying over Google killing photos or something so I've been considering self hosting a back up of Google photos

Yeah I intend to run google photos alongside (after deleting a few GB of stuff), and I have backups every night via Kopia of the important stuff in my NAS. Which as I say this I realise may not include my photos.... Time to fix that.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2023 16:54

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Does anyone use Ansible to easily set up their proxmox VMs? I'm wondering how I could do it to replicate what I currently have, do I need to make VM templates?

# ¿ Jul 14, 2023 15:59

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Yeah, my end goal is to somewhat replace setup documentation with ansible (and maybe terraform)? I should probably learn Terraform for my job anyway, so I think I will go that route. I am still not entirely sure where one tools area of use ends and the other begins (When to use ansible vs when to use terraform?)

# ¿ Jul 14, 2023 19:44

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Matt Zerella posted:

Terraform for infrastructure, Ansible for configuration of said infrastructure. This applies mostly to VMs.

So with Proxmox it's terraform. For the VMs inside of proxmox it's Ansible.

I'd back out one step further and build VMtemplates with packer that are preconfigured for your Ansible code and are deployed with TF.

So a rough overview would be this?

Packer would create the base VM templates, setup with the basic stuff you would want in each VM.

Terraform would set these up in Proxmox when needed, specifying the different cpu/memory/network config for each VM that is spun up

Ansible would do final config/set up each VM for their own unique usage. (A VM that runs docker, a VM that runs backup, etc)

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 18:34

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Matt Zerella posted:

Yep. And then if you want to get fancy you do a git/cicd setup to track everything. You can probably skip terraform unless you've got some kind of complicated deployment pattern.

Without terraform, would I just manually create the VMs out of the templates, or do I just rely on Ansible to do that?

# ¿ Jul 15, 2023 19:05

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

What do people have set up for monitoring logs/metrics of their server(s)? Been eyeing up setting up vector on each VM and sending logs to Loki to show in Grafana.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2023 23:27

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

cruft posted:

If all you want is Docker, there are several operating systems that let you skip step 2. Some of them even apply their own updates, so you don't ever have to think about that.

I've just been using Ubuntu in a VM as my docker host, though I am looking at replacing it. Do you recommend any of those docker-orientated operating systems?

# ¿ Jan 9, 2024 23:37

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

cruft posted:

I'm a big fan of flatcar container linux, which is what I use everywhere*. It uses an A/B boot partition like ChromeOS.

Red Hat people may like Fedora CoreOS better. The whole SilverBlue thing confuses me and I haven't needed to sit down and figure it out yet, but Red Hat people might already be comfortable with it.

* My homelab is a Raspberry Pi and Flatcar is all "don't run this on an RPi if you care about the services", so there I use rootless alpine, which I like a lot.

One thing I'm unsure of is that for my containers I currently use bind mounts to local folders in my docker vm. I would just have these nfs mounted but I have had issues with sqlite or similar over nfs. Would this be possible to do in these operating systems?

I know there's docker volumes, but it doesn't have the same ease of accessing the files (such as changing config). Though I'm happy to be proven wrong, as I'm not too familiar with them.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2024 20:16

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

cruft posted:

I don't even understand what you're asking, heh. If you want to know if you can bind mount a volume in a container OS, the answer is yes. You can also NFS mount things, although database over NFS is a first class ticket to slowsville, as you discovered.

We even had an NFS server running flatcar. And HA MariaDB and Postgres database pools.

I wasn't 100% sure what I was asking either, but I think you pretty much covered it.

My only real concern is how to easily access docker bind mounted folders to change config. If I can run an nfs server (like I currently do in Ubuntu) that solves it for me.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2024 10:14

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Warbird posted:

That looks really interesting. Not sure if it's interesting enough to expose a DB on my network to the internet writ large but still interesting. I'm a bit surprised they didn't just use postgres or the like, I've never heard of CouchDB before.

I just have my phone connected via VPN to my home network at all times.

Also another vouch for livesync, works great for me.

# ¿ Feb 4, 2024 11:02

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Trying to plan out a setup for something like git ops for my home server. Anyone have opinions on Ansible Vs nixos as IAC for a VM that would be my docker host?

# ¿ Apr 16, 2024 08:02

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 23:07

hogofwar: Jun 25, 2011; 'We've strayed into a zone with a high magical index,' he said. 'Don't ask me how. Once upon a time a really powerful magic field must have been generated here, and we're feeling the after-effects.'
'Precisely,' said a passing bush.

Was looking at setting up some log collection from my servers and containers, was looking at Loki + Vector, or is there a better alternative than Loki?

# ¿ Apr 21, 2024 22:48

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