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harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Came here to post that as well. US journalist Grant Wahl also got a talking to for taking a photo of the World Cup slogan painted on a wall in the media center, this week is going to go swimmingly once more of the countries and presenters get on the ground.

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harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

BrigadierSensible posted:

Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly are the Qatari government/royalty trying to do here.



You don't manhandle and threaten international journalists on live TV, and threaten to smash the camera. Because this does not make Qatar look like the open accessible friendly country that they want it to look like.

Top management can say one thing, but the people on the ground apparently haven’t changed how they operate normally. I’m guessing that gets changed right quick, but we’ll see.

I also don’t think they’d have to astroturf with fans from South Asia, there are plenty who have adopted teams (including national teams) same as the famed plastic American fan has, and that Gulf region isn’t very far from the subcontinent. It’s where a lot of people go to work even in non-slavery level construction jobs, if my experience in Dubai is any indication.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

It's the only thing that would have actually lost them the world cup so of course they're leaving it to the last minute

The segment in Football Weekly a couple weeks back when there was an update on what fans will be looking forward to for hotels and alcohol/fan zones in Qatar just drove home how awful it will be to go in person as just a regular fan.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Vegetable posted:

Have they announced whether they’ll do water breaks or any other changes to actual games due to the weather?

I don’t think inside the stadium should pose any problems. They did do the Track and Field World Championships there a few years back, and the only events that really had problems were the marathon and race walks that weren’t in the stadium.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007


If only Belgium’s kit was made by a company that also sponsors FIFA, you’d imagine there’d be some kind of channel of communication there.

Huh, wait.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Tsaedje posted:

Usually the world cup is awarded to a country or countries with an order of magnitude greater population than the number of tickets, and you can sell cheap tickets to the general public to fill seats for matches with low travelling support.

a) travelling support is even worse than anticipated
b) full capacity for the tournament is about 3.3m, which is about 500k more than the entire population and 3m more than the number of actual Qatari citizens

Qatar has had serious issues with hotels and lodging for the World Cup, and also didn’t allow sensible alternative options like “allow people to commute from places like Dubai and Abu Dhabi that actually have hotels.” Even the logistics of this World Cup have been beyond hosed.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Tsaedje posted:

Colleague of a friend is travelling to Wales matches but staying in Jordan, that's how hosed it is. If this wasn't all a big arab king dickwaving competition they could have had a more sensible (but still awful) tournament spread between various arab city states.

They made Japan and Korea share one, lol. I think even the ‘white elephant’ stadiums in Japan are still being used occasionally (just for big matches in some cases, most became full-time J League homes). Having one majorly updated stadium in various countries and emirates in the area (along with spreading fan demands across multiple big cities) would probably have been better, but again, dick-swinging contest.

Same reason why 2026 is CUM - they wanted matches in Mexico City and Toronto as well.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Vegetable posted:

Applying them to draws is nonsensical and would hugely distort how the game is played. My guess is they would make the game more defensive and encourage smaller teams to grind out draws when they would otherwise chase a goal. Certainly it would induce teams to spend a lot more time training for pens as opposed to, you know, the game.

It’s a way to have your 16 groups of 3 teams each cake and be able to eat it as well. Which is why it’s so incredibly dumb.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

just americanize it completey. no group stages. All knockouts with a wild card round for the lowest performers in the qualifiers since they're expanding from elite to any nation with a pulse (also super american trend)

So, the FA Cup :v:

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

vyelkin posted:

seriously. If you thought playing a football match in the Qatari summer was impossible, try running a marathon...

The 2019 World Athletics Championships we’re hosted in Qatar, they were held in late September and had the marathons starting at midnight - and they were still 30 C/70% humidity and had tons of athletes drop out. The track-hosted events were air conditioned and alright, but the marathons and such were a nightmare.

So it’ll happen, naturally.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

Koreans breathing a sigh of relief

:stoke:


The Perfect Element posted:

Central London was loving nuts tonight. Morocco fans but also seemingly anyone with a flag, a luxury car and any kind of African or Islamic heritage was out honking their horns and kicking poo poo off.

somebody go grab that image of the flare from before the Euro 2020 final.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

It’s tragic for Grant’s family and friends, it’s sad for fans who enjoyed his work, and depending on the circumstances could be an actual international incident, but

EC10 posted:

that is so hosed, send in the drones to liberate the qatari royal family ASAP

Don’t do this. Not now.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

vyelkin posted:

The football was good in spite of the tournament being bad

Yeah this.

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harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

joepinetree posted:

Is there anyone other than Americans who care about those? Like, no one in Brazil even cites those.

Japanese media refer to them as well as some kind of objective guide, which is of course dumb as hell given how they’re generated.

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