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Congratulations to the 2022 Spook-A-Doodle Bracketology Tournament & Movie Club Champion twernt's Spooky Swinging Sixties! (Herk Harvey, Brunello Rondi, Masaki Kobayashi, Ingmar Bergman, Terence Young, and Elio Petri) A Quiet Place in the Country, Kwaidan, Hour of the Wolf, Persona, The Demon, and Carnival of Souls     ................................. Get the snow shovels and rock salt. Unpack the warm clothes. Unravel the Christmas lights. Something else I should be firing up?  Ok, we’re back. I’m excited. Lets get right to it. This is the Spook-A-Doodle Bracketology Tournament & Movie Club. Started in 2020 and originally run by shrecknet as a distraction during the quarantine and opportunity for us all to socialize together, it took on a life of its own becoming a community of people who just like hanging out and watching films together and just supporting each other and being friends. This would be the third season/year/tournament and its become a bit massive and unwieldy and I carry a lot of the blame for that, but I’m down for trying to corral it all for another year if people want to. So how does this work? 64 Directors or Teams of Directors are put together in a tournament with a pool of movies to draw from. Each week movies are drawn at random and face off 1 on 1 unto we get down to a final matchup to name a new champion. The first year saw Ken Russell take down Takashi Miike and this prior year saw MacheteZ’s One n Dones team take down Deb’s Queer As In gently caress You team. As you can see this isn’t your normal mainstream horror picks. There’s a lot of personal investment and subjective tastes involved and that’s a lot of the fun. Huge legends go down early when they draw a weak film and wild cards advance deep on the passion of posters. It keeps everything unpredictable and competitive and means a ton of deep diving into films many of us have never seen or even heard of. And each season has turnover so all the films we’ve watched in the past are out and a whole new crop come up this year. The whole thing takes 9 months to do and its as chill or intense as you want it to be. You can be here every week writing up passionate reviews for your favorites each round or you can come and go through the year when you have some time or need a break. Hopefully we’ll be here for you when you need or want it the same way this thing started as such a relief for many of us during 2020. Important Dates Subject to change
2020: Franchise Tournament Thread / Franchise Letterboxd List / Directors Tournament Thread / Directors Letterboxd List 2021: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List / HalloweeNIT Letterboxd List 2022: Thread / Spreadsheet / Letterboxd List Cumulative: Spreadsheet / Letterboxd Master List STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Nov 22, 2022 |
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Rules subject to change The Council: The top 8 posters from last year’s thread (besides myself) are our unofficial “Council”. If there is some crucial stalemate or disagreement in nominations or rules they will vote and I will be the tiebreaker. They will each name one Automatic Bid who gets entered directly into the Field of 64 and skips the nomination vote. Each Council Member is free to give their spot to anyone they like, director or team, as long as they’re eligible for the tourney. The 8 posters are: Basebf555 Franchescanado married but discreet MacheteZombie TrixRabbi Tarnop twernt The Berzerker Servoret also earned another Bid by completing the HalloweeNIT October challenge, bringing the grand total up to 9 Automatic Bids. Nominations:
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No Cherry Picking: If a director is part of your team then you must include all eligible films of theirs on the team. The baseline for "eligibility" are traditionally labeled "horror" films but its possible there will be disagreement over looser interpreted thrillers, sci fi, fantasy, or what have you. If these disputes can't be resolved in thread the Council will vote. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Nov 30, 2021 |
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Nominations You can nominate a solo director with 6 films or more, or a team. Its very simple, you only need to post your nomination in here. It would be helpful for me if you also listed movies but its not necessarily required, especially for directors with long lists. Its complicated. I'll have to double check they have enough to go and put the movies on the spreadsheet for a random draw. So help is appreciated. But I'll have to do the work anyway. Last year I bulk added all the directors we had previously nominated or I could find who had 6 or more films. I decided not to do that this year. It saves me some work and really there's no point in adding directors if no one really wants them in. So if you do want a director nominate them. So for example, I’m nominating Mario Bava. He has a number of "horror" films left but he also has some monster, thriller, and sci fi films which seem close enough to warrant including given his stature as a horror director. So the ideal nomination looks like this. Mario Bava 1. The Girl Who Knew Too Much 2. Planet of the Vampires 3. Five Dolls for an August Moon 4. Hatchet for the Honeymoon 5. Baron Blood 6. The Venus of Ille 7. The House of Exorcism 8. Caltiki, the Immortal Monster 9. Hercules in the Haunted World 10. The Whip and the Body 11. Rabid Dogs 12. Dr. Goldfoot and the Girl Bombs 13. The Day the Sky Exploded Teams For now, until Dec 4th we're only renominating teams from last year. This is just to give posters a chance to reup their teams without them getting broken up by new teams. Once Dec 4th rolls around we'll be free to nominate new teams or add directors to the renominated teams. There will be a 12 hour clock between your nominations to allow for everyone to get a chance instead of some people making a lot of nominations at once and some people missing out. On Dec 8th we'll ditch the clock once enough time has passed and people can nominate as many as they wish. So for example I am renominating this team from last year. The Enemies of Horror (Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson, Jeremy Gardner, and Amy Seimetz) Formerly known as Rustic Films 1. Spring by Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson 2. Resolution by Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson 3. The Endless by Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson 4. The Battery by Jeremy Gardner 5. She Dies Tomorrow by Amy Seimetz In addition I can add these movies that were made by the directors already on the team, but weren't on last year's team for whatever reason (not released, not available, just missed, whatever). 6. Synchronic by Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson 7. Sun Don’t Shine by Amy Seimetz I have room left on the team I do intend to add more directors and films. But I can't do that until Dec 4th at noon EST. I hope that's all clear and easy to understand. You can find a list of previously nominated directors and teams on the spreadsheet. If you have any questions feel free to ask. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Jan 9, 2022 |
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FAQ So why are there directors and teams? This originally started as a simple Directors Tournament. We had some directors with 6 films and some with less that repeated their films through the tournament. The teams were intended to do three things. 1) Make sure every entry had enough films to draw a new one each round. 2) Get more directors and movies involved. 3) Make this all more interactive and fun by giving people a chance to build their own teams or develop rooting interests. There was some concern that it created an opportunity for “super teams” that had an advantage over the solo directors with large filmographies of varying quality. The “no cherry picking” rule was created to basically try and avoid that, but three very excellent crafted “super teams” still made the final four in the first season of them. Some people didn’t like that but ultimately it still means more directors and movies watched and as we go on we should whittle out the ability to build super teams by eliminating movies and directors as we see them. And that makes the team building options more diverse and weird. What happens when someone like George Romero or John Carpenter has to be on a team to be in the tournament? That seems fun. Why “no cherry picking”? The idea is simply to avoid a very selective choosing of movies that uses only the best films and cuts all the bad ones. That would make a less dynamic tournament and more of a “my favorite films” thing. And really give an advantage of people trying to act more in good faith and just include everything their director or team have to offer. This can get questionable at times since the definition of “horror” can vary a lot. Some films are called thrillers or fantasy or crime or sci fi that others thing are horror. Ultimately it comes down to good faith. If you think its a horror, use it. If you really don’t think it is, then fine. Cut it. If someone disagrees we can hash that out and hopefully come to a civil compromise. If all else fails the Council will vote on anything that can’t be settled. So does that mean I have to add all these sci fi and thriller films to my list? No, not at all. In the past movies that aren’t traditionally considered horror have been included in this tournament. People have made passionate cases for them and I’ve tried to be very permissive. In the end I think its a matter that can be resolved in the voting. But that might get confusing in the nomination process as we talk about “eligible” films or “no cherry picking” especially when you see me talk about which films I added for a director. Thing is you say “I nominate Bill Smith” and then I have to go add all of his movies to the spreadsheet for the random draw. But I don’t know Bill Smith’s films so I just go based off the movies listed as horror. But I do tend to peek at the other stuff to see if anything looks like it might fit. So I have to make judgment calls. And sometimes I’ll be wrong, and again, if you disagree with something just speak up. I’ll defer to thread consensus 99% of the time. And if we can’t find a consensus then the Council. Why is there a weird period where only old teams can be nominated? I want to encourage people to bring back old teams so we can create a kind of legacy and record of teams. I think that could be a lot of fun. Successful teams trying to come back and do it a second time, unsuccessful teams trying it a second time, teams trying to come back year after year. And if there’s just a free for all then other people might break up those teams so I wanted to give them a chance to think it over and decide if they wanted to bring them back. But I don’t want to give those teams an unfair advantage in adding new directors over the other posters so that’s why they can’t build on their teams during that period. Why can I only nominate a team every 12 hours? Basically the idea is to avoid anyone spamming a bunch of teams and getting all the big movies and directors. I want to give everyone a chance to participate and brainstorm so making the people who have been planning teams for awhile have to sit and wait out a clock can hopefully help give everyone else time to come up with teams if they want. At least until enough time has passed and we think we can just let the over zealous people go wild. It also creates a kind of default “draft” scenario where you’re gonna have to prioritize your nominations. You’ll have to decide which you want to nominate first in the hopes that someone else doesn’t steal a director in the 12 hours you have to wait before your next pick. And I think drafts are fun. Can we change our teams or trade directors around? Absolutely. While the 12 hour clock is up you’ll have to stick with that but you can change your team around if you decide you’d like it differently and if someone picked a director you wanted and you can work it out with them to change that then its all fair game. As long as everyone’s happy and we’re playing within the rules its all good. Why just directors? I wanted to expand the criteria beyond directors to other people who help make movies great. Producers, writers, cinematographers, composers, sfx artists, and of course actors. But the problem I realizes is that once you start allowing different criteria you end up with a lot of crossover. So how do you decide what team or entry a film goes on when all its cast and crew are nominated? It just seemed like a mess. Ultimately the director criteria is less of a real interest in finding the best director or putting all the credit for a film on the director than it is just a convenient sorting device. It gives us a guideline to narrow down our entires and nominations and make this thing work. We could probably use other criteria to do it but this started as a directors’ tourney and has done two years under that criteria so it makes sense to just continue the course. Why do you eliminate movies after they’ve been drawn? Its been two years, I want to watch it again. The idea is both to make sure that we don’t just have the same winners year after year but also to keep diving deeper into cuts for our films. A lot of the fun of this isn’t just watching classics we’ve all seen. That’s fun and for many of us we haven’t seen a lot of classics without some prompting. But a lot of the films we watch are films most of us have never seen or even heard of. And sometimes that’s a lot of fun or reveals some real gems. And of course you don’t have to watch all the films and you’re free to watch what you want. Its possible over time if we do this long enough it might make sense to reset the pool. But it also might just be fun if we keep doing this for years to keep eliminating movies and keep digging deeper and deeper even once all the big masters have been eliminated or cut down to the point where they need teams to be nominated. We can play that out as it comes. Why are the teams 6-10 films? The idea is 6 films should be enough to get a team through the tournament without redraws and 10 should be enough of a cap to keep the team from just hoarding a ton of films or directors when they could be in other teams and get more play. 10 is a soft cap because its possible you’ll have 2 or 3 directors who add up to 11 or 12 films or something and there’s no reason to not allow that. In theory you could have 2 directors with 9 films for a total of 18 films or 10 directors with 1 film each. You can also just do 6 films or less than 10 if you wish. Maybe you want to put together a little “boutique” team of films that fit a specific theme of some kind and you can only get to 6 or 7. That’s fine. The goal is flexibility and giving everyone as much room as they need to have fun and be creative. If a director with 6 films can be nominated solo why can he also be on a team? That’s a new thing this year. It was suggested by mbd and Tarnop last year and while initially I had reservations over why you’d team up two directors who could qualify on their own I decided that it didn’t really matter. If for some reason you did want to do that or tag a director with 1 or 2 films on with a director with 6+ then I guess why not? It adds more flexibility and makes the rules less restrictive and easier to understand, and in the end it just means more directors, more films, and more random draws. What if I just don’t like this rule or change? Then please, please speak up. I want to make this as fun for everyone as possible. I don’t like being the guy who makes unilateral decisions. I recognize to some extent you just have to make a call at some point but if you really don’t like or understand something please let me know and we can talk it out and change it if it makes sense. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Basebf555 posted:Excited for a new season, although when I saw this stoned at like 1am last night I was extremely overwhelmed. I think I'm getting a handle on it though, until December 4th we can nominate individual directors and/or re-nominate existing teams from last time. After December 4th you can start nominating new teams? Do I have that right? Yeah. Sorry about that. Its me. If I could say things simpler I'd be a different person. But yeah. Until Dec 4th people can reup teams. Dec 4th-8th you can nominate new teams one every 12 hours. Dec 8th you can go hog wild. Solo directors can be nominated whenever. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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married but discreet posted:edit: If I want to re-nominate teams I can't make any edits to them yet, right? So I can renominate this team. The Enemies of Horror (Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson, Jeremy Gardner, and Amy Seimetz) Formerly known as Rustic Films 1. Spring by Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson 2. Resolution by Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson 3. The Endless by Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson 4. Synchronic by Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson 5. The Battery by Jeremy Gardner 6. She Dies Tomorrow by Amy Seimetz Synchronic wasn't on the list last year because it hadn't been released, so I can add it now. But there's other directors I'm considering adding to the team but I can't until the 4th (so I don't have an edge in case someone else wants them)
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married but discreet posted:Well let's nominate some directors first, mostly to ruin the stats for Italy even more: Soavi actually only has three horror films listed on Letterboxd. So unless he's missing some he's inelligble without a team. Fragasso has 7 although 1 (Una notte da paura) seems lost/hard to find so I'm cutting it down to the other 6 unless you can find more. Mattei has 15 films added. Fragasso and Mattei share 2 films (Rats: Night of Terror and Night Killer). Without them Fragasso wouldn't qualify or have enough films to finish so unless you or someone objects I'm just gonna credit to him and drop Mattei to 13. Martino has 11 films added. Shyamalan only has 3 listed as horror (Old, The Visit, and Split) but Sixth Sense, The Village, and Signs all seem safely horror to me. I wouldn't consider Unbreakable or Glass as horror but with the inclusion of Split that seems like a judgement call. Lady in the Water is listed as fantasy. I dunno. I added the 6 sure ones and you (or anyone else) can weigh in on the rest. Karacadag has 9 films. One of which is Dab6e assuring I watch 5 preceding Dabbe films when it inevitably gets drawn
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Catching my breath between chores, nominating a few of the big favorites. John Carpenter Actually down to just 5 feature films listed as horror but Someone's Watching Me and his two Masters of Horror episodes cover him. There's also Assault on Precinct 13, They Live, and Big Trouble In Little China. I'm torn on all of them. I'd argue that while none of them are strictly horror they all have films that have been in these tournaments they're similar to that have counted. Big Trouble obviously takes a lot from the Wuxia films, Precinct 13 is a tense cop thriller of which we've had a number, and They Live is some freaky sci fi stuff similar to like Cronenberg. So I'm inclined to include them all unless anyone objects, and if one gets drawn and people don't feel its horror enough the votes can tell. Any objections? Wes Craven Wes has no problems. He's got 19 films. He'll be getting knocked out before the sweet sixteen as long as we do this.
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Its not a film I'd call horror most of the time. I'd call it fantasy and action first. But it has monsters and magic and wizards and I'm not entirely sure what separates it from stuff like Human Lanterns and Chinese Ghost Story aside from the country of origin. And I think that might be it. Because its John Carpenter making it with Kurt Russell as the "lead" it feels more like a homage or a spoof where if it were just a wuxia film I imagine people wouldn't given it a second guess because its just in pattern with the cultural themes? I don't know, does that make sense? I'm not married to it. If people object I'll take it out. I actually personally had a harder time justifying Precinct 13 but I know lots of people like that stuff and do consider it horror. I just did the arguments in my own head and I couldn't really make a case for discounting Big Trouble but keeping Wuxia. And I wouldn't argue to dump Wuxia. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Nov 29, 2021 |
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That's two objections so I'll take it out.
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Tarnop posted:I'd like to renominate The Brutal Brits I assume you mean High Rise? I know nothing about it and Letterboxd lists it solely as a drama so unless some objects I'll remove it. I'm torn on Rebecca since its listed as a "thriller" and the original actually knocked Hitchcock out in Season 1. But I won't force it if no one objects. Even if its unfair to Alfie. You will need to add someone since that brings you to 5 films even with the addition of In The Earth. You can do that Dec 4th and on. Lost & Found technically has 6 films because Christopher MacBride has a second horror film Flashback. I have no idea if that's Found Footage though so you might have to look at that. Agents Provocateur has 9 films so its good as is.
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I generally just defer to the thread with borderline movies as I did with Big Trouble. I just want to stick to two principles. 1) Be flexible and allow the movies people want in to get in and 2) make sure no one cherry picks out the good and discards the bad. I don't think that's whats happening with Wheatley so unless someone really thinks Rebecca and High Rise belong I'm fine cutting them. Also I forgot that Marshall released The Reckoning last year so Brutal Brits have 6. I'm sorry for the confusing mess of the first few posts. My mind is that Always Sunny gif. I'm gonna sit down and try to clean it up today.
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Ok, I've rewritten the rules and first posts in this thread. I've tried to make them clearer and less of a jumbled mess. Tarnop helped me out on that so big thanks. My mind is a mess and I had a lot of ideas and journeys for the rules over the last year and I just did a bad job composing them. Hopefully now its a simpler layout of rules and nomination examples. And at Tarnop's suggestion I've put all the other more rambling philosophical and history stuff in a FAQ post that can we add questions and issues to as they come up. I think this works better. I hope it does. I'm sorry for the mess and if its still a mess or you still have questions please feel free to speak up.
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I'm also gonna renominate these teams. The Vicious Brothers fka Digital Interface Productions (Colin Minihan, Stuart Ortiz, and Kurtis David Harder) Guillermo del Toro Presents fka Creature Features (Guillermo del Toro and André Øvredal) Team Ladies Night (Ana Lily Amirpour, Anna Biller, Juliana Rojas, & Rose Glass) Radio Silence (Matt Bettinelli-Olpin,Tyler Gillett, Justin Martinez, and Chad Villella) I think the VBs currently qualify but they're all gonna get reserves after Dec 4th. Also I'm thinking of moving up that to Dec 3rd since (a) that's Friday which was our new round day all year and a workday so people might be more around than the weekend and (b) I had originally planned for the renomination period to be Dec 1st to 4th but I realized there was no point to delaying it so its already been 3 days. Any objections? I just don't want to surprise anyone but its still 3 days from now. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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From a far away land Debbie renominates: Bon Appetit! NYC Grime Connection Deb Tricks You Into Watching Porn Silent Scream Bon Appetit! adds The Baby of Mâcon who’s director is already on the team to get to 6. NYC Grime already has 6. Deb Tricks You Into Watching Porn and Silent Scream will have to add directors to fully qualify.
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A straight renom, no additions required. Revenge of the Cat People (Robert Wise and Jacques Tourneur) I threw this team together on the fly last year just because I liked both directors, but I’m renomming it because I really want to see some 40s representation in this thing after the decade pulled a goose egg last year. So it will probably draw a film not in that decade. At least there’s no Audrey Rose. 1. The Haunting by Robert Wise 2. Curse of the Cat People by Robert Wise 3. The Body Snatcher by Robert Wise 4. A Game of Death by Robert Wise 5. Cat People by Jacques Tourneur 6. Curse of the Demon by Jacques Tourneur 7. The Leopard Man by Jacques Tourneur 8. The Comedy of Terrors by Jacques Tourneur
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And I'm gonna go ahead and nominate Alexandre Aja. 1. Horns 2. The Hills Have Eyes (2006) 3. High Tension 4. Piranha 3D (2010) 5. Mirrors 6. Oxygen 7. The 9th Life of Louis Drax 8. Furia This one is a little iffy. I'm not sure if those last three are horror but they all sound like they could be to me. If someone disagrees and wants them out let me know. And hell, lets get Tobe Hooper in too. 1. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 2. Eaten Alive 3. The Funhouse 4. Invaders from Mars 5. The Mangler 6. Spontaneous Combustion 7. Mortuary 8. Dance of the Dead 9. Djinn 10. Night Terrors 11. The Damned Thing 12. I'm Dangerous Tonight STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Franchescanado posted:Thank you STAC Goat for PMing me that this is back. They have 5 films listed so you'd need to add at least one director/movie. But for now the rest of the team is safe. Franchescanado posted:Double posting, because I have a question. Yeah, as they said the idea here is to give you a chance to reserve your team from last year without anyone breaking it up, but not give you an advantage adding new directors before everyone else can add them to theirs. We have a set start time and the 12 hour clock so everyone can get a chance to play. So Femme Fatale is safe with its three existing films and Titane, since you had Ducournau on the team already. Dec 4th at noon EST you can add more (we expanded the teams so you only need 6 but you can go to 10 if you like). But you'll also have to decide if you want to prioritize them or another team because you'll have to wait 12 hours for the next nomination and omeone lse could come in during that wait, especially if you have highly coveted directors/movies. It seemed the fairest way to do to me and also created a kind of draft fun.
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Franchescanado posted:I feel like maybe Tourneur should get his own spot as a director? Cuz there's also I Walked With A Zombie and War-Gods of the Deep, and then a handful of thrillers that might work. Or add those two horror movies to this team? I Walked With a Zombie got burned in the first tournament but I'll add War Gods of the Deep. I don't know the other ones but I'm willing to add them and separate the two if we think that's fairest.
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Its December 3rd so REMINDER that nominations being at Noon EST Dec 4th. For now people can continue to renom their teams from last year if able. Come Noon EST Dec 4th (roughly 34 hours from now) anyone can nominate any team. You can reup those teams from last year with new directors/films or nominate new teams from scratch. After you make a nomination you'll have to wait 12 hours before making another one, so you'll have to strategize and prioritize in case someone takes off your board. If your nom is ineligible then you can renom and as long as its the same team you don't have to start a new 12 hour clock. This is all intended to try and make this as fun and fair as possible and give everyone an equal chance to make nomination instead of spamming noms. You all know the time so you don't have to wait for me to say Go so even I don't have an edge. Nominations begin at noon EST on Dec 4th
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12 1/2 hours until team nominations are open. NOON EST, Dec 4th You don't have to wait for me to say "go". You can nominate any eligible directors not already on teams. You must use all their horror films. If there's disagreement over if their films are horror or not we work it out in thread. Your team must have at least 6 films, but once you get to 10 you should stop. There's some wiggle room but try not to horde stuff and keep it from other teams and a better chance to be drawn. You can find the nominees here as well as a list of past nominees, their used films, and remaining films. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10sOMfyMvaC198kn3zvSTZNfF9E4PRren3hy9BOjWk4A/edit?usp=sharing After you make a nomination you have to wait 12 hours before your next one. If you have to resolve some problem with a nomination but don't add a new director then your clock doesn't restart. Try not to edit your nomination post. If there's some kind of conflict like two people nominating the same director but the first person having edited their post... lets just not mess with that, right? Just double post if you made a mistake or something so there's no confusion. And most importantly, this is supposed to be fun. Its a competition so we can get lost in it, and I'm as guilty as anyone of sometimes getting too focused on rules. But lets all try and have fun and be friendly and cooperative. The goal is to watch movies together, not win anything real.
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You can now nominate teams, once every 12 hours.
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Dec 4, 2021 18:00
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From a far away land Debbie nominates… Team Easy, Sleazy, Japanesey 1. Tetsuro Takeuchi - Wild Zero 2. Gen Sekiguchi - Survive Style 5+ 3. Ujicha - Violence Voyager 4. Ujicha - The Burning Buddha Man 5. Shinichiro Ueda - One Cut of the Dead 6. Mika Ninagawa - Helter Skelter And from right here I nominate… The Magical Muppet Wizardry of Jim Henson (and Friends) (Jim Henson, Frank Oz, Joe Dante, Kirk R. Thatcher, Jon Bristol, Karl Holt, Kevin Lewis, and Bill Watterson) Its my very first co-sponsored Letterboxd List/Bracketology team! See I don’t just make goofy themed Bracketology teams once a year, I make goofy themed Letterboxd lists all year. I encouraged we get more creative with team building other auteurs so this is my first go and of course I have a Muppet list. Jim Henson was a wizard and he had an under appreciated creepy sense sometimes but he doesn’t quite have a ton of horror movies or anything. Its Labyrinth now. But hey, a Muppet Haunted House film? Now we have an idea. And Jim had a lot of friends and people who helped him so how about we bring Frank Oz and Joe Dante in on this for some puppet work with plants or gremlins or fish? And to round out the team how about some puppet slashers? Tell me that stuff wasn’t inspired by Muppets and Sesame Street as much as Jason and Chucky. Wizards work in mysterious ways and Jim Henson is gonna work some magic on Bracketology. 1. Labyrinth by Jim Henson 2. Muppets Haunted Mansion by Kirk R. Thatcher 3. Jim Henson's Turkey Hollow by Kirk R. Thatcher 4. Little Shop of Horrors by Frank Oz 5. The Stepford Wives by Frank Oz 6. Gremlins by Joe Dante 7. Piranha by Joe Dante 8. Head by Jon Bristol 9. Benny Loves You by Karl Holt 10. Dave Made a Maze by Bill Watterson
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Dec 4, 2021 18:00
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Franchescanado posted:Team Femme Fatale Returns Saint Maude is actually on my Ladies Night team (but I was gonna drop it so go ahead and keep it) but damnit! I knew I should have renomed XX to save Revenge! My entire Ladies Night/XX merger is dead! My draft board is on fire!
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To be clear, and this is some confusion I kind of realized might be happening and blame myself for... you can nominate a solo director at any time with no limit or clock. If they have 6 films you can nominate as many as you like. The clock is only for teams of 2 or more directors.
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Dec 4, 2021 20:42
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Franchescanado posted:Thank you! I was almost tempted to be petty and hold it hostage for Revenge. Losing that is killing me. The anguish of the draft. Also I'm nominating Roger Corman because I keep forgetting and he has enough movies he can't us for a team. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Dec 4, 2021 |
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Dec 4, 2021 22:20
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Kôji Shiraishi has been nominated. If there's another Koji I dunno who.
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Dec 4, 2021 23:55
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Darthemed posted:Nominating Charles Band's horror filmography.  You're doing this on purpose, right?
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Dec 5, 2021 01:13
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12 hours has passed... From a magical land Debbie nominates… Family Friendly 2: poo poo Just Got Friendlier 1. Hayao Miyazaki - Princess Mononoke 2. Henry Selick - Coraline 3. Henry Selick - The Nightmare Before Christmas 4. Nick Park - Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit 5. Barry Sonnenfeld - The Addams Family 6. Barry Sonnenfeld - Addams Family Values 7. Sam Fell/Chris Butler - ParaNorman And from my devastated draft board I nominate… Ladies Night XX (Anna Biller, Karyn Kusama, Emerald Fennell, Natalie Erika James, Jill Gevargizian, Natalia Leite, Małgorzata Szumowska, and Natasha Kermani) Last season I had a very simple goal. Find the standout recent films from women, spread them around, and try and add more diversity to the tournament. Ladies Night was the certain success of the bunch making it to the Sweet Sixteen and making me proud. So the plan was to come back strong in their second season with a revamped, bulked up, top notch roster of films reinforced by the best of stuff that’s come out since and the best from my other teams like XX. And then I chose to wait to draft them and the team was decimated by others’ picked. Most importantly was Coralle Fargeat’s Revenge, one of the films that really inspired this team for me and one that simply got placed on the wrong team and left unprotected. And that devastated me. And with the rest of the team getting used up last season or stolen in the draft all that was left from my favorite team last season was Anna Billers. But I bring Karyn Kusama in from XX and fill out the team are some high profile, well received new names in Emerald Fennell and Natalie Erika James as well as some lower profile wild card picks. This team isn’t the powerhouse I hoped it would be and I can only blame myself for that, but in the end I never was interested in building powerhouse super teams and maybe this is truer to what the team started as. A collection of women who stand out in recent horror with their own style and voice and maybe they can make another run. 1. The Love Witch by Anna Biller 2. The Invitation by Karyn Kusama 3. Promising Young Woman by Emerald Fennell 4. Relic by Natalie Erika James 5. The Stylist by Jill Gevargizian 6. M.F.A. by Natalia Leite 7. Lucky by Natasha Kermani 8. Evolution by Lucile Hadžihalilović 9. Woodshock by Kate Mulleavy and Laura Mulleavy 10. Amulet by Romola Garai
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Dec 5, 2021 06:10
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From parts unknown Debbie adds Emiliano Rocha Minter's We Are The Flesh to Deb Tricks You Into Watching Porn taking it to 6 films and making it official. And from a cold New England village I nominate… All Hail Stephen King (Stephen King, Stanley Kubrick, Ralph S. Singleton, Rob Reiner, Taylor Hackford, Fraser Clarke Heston, Bryan Singer, Andy Muschietti, and Lawrence Kasdan) My second Letterboxd co sponsored brand team is another obvious love of mine and built from 🎈All Hail Stephen King🪓 this was not an easy task. So many great King movies come from directors with wider horror filmographies like big ones like DePalma, Romero, Darabont, or more polarizing ones like Flanagan. And even lesser known directors like Lewis Teague or Tommy Lee Wallace having a couple of good Kings under their belt but a bunch of others. And of course Mick Garris is much too prolific. But there are a lot of King adaptions so given enough effort I put together a downright respectable Stephen King collection. I mean sure there might be a bad clown or toilet alien somewhere but it IS a King collection. 1. Maximum Overdrive by Stephen King 2. Graveyard Shift by Ralph S. Singleton 3. The Shining by Stanley Kubrick 4. Misery by Rob Reiner 5. Dolores Claiborne by Taylor Hackford 6. Needful Things by Fraser Clarke Heston 7. Apt Pupil by Bryan Singer 8. It by Andy Muschietti 9. It Chapter Two by Andy Muschietti 10. Dreamcatcher by Lawrence Kasdan I know there's some debate as to whether Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut or Clockwork Orange are horror. If anyone feels they should be added I'll ditch Kubrick. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Dec 5, 2021 |
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Dec 5, 2021 18:16
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Some house cleaning...Tarnop posted:I'd like to pick up Remi Weekes for Brutal Brits please. That will add His House to that team bringing it up to 6 You actually already had 6 since Wheatley released In The Earth last year and Marshall released The Reckoning. So Weekes takes the Brits to 7. twernt posted:Kwaidan appears to be eligible and Persona makes sense as an addition, so here's a second attempt. I regret to say that Kuroneko has also been played. But the team still has 7 so is good.
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Dec 5, 2021 18:43
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Something I think is very interesting so far this year is that while I think the teams last year largely were heavily curated teams or a director or two trying to get worked in (like Team David) this year everyone seems way more into fun gimmicks and "boutique" teams. I love that since it was my original design and how I built most of my teams. And I recognize that it can be kind of hard with the "no cherry picking" rule but I also think that rule is necessary for a lot of reasons so its just something we gotta work around. But I'm really excited that lots of people are trying. I'm also curious how long it takes for those guys like Team David to factor in. Maybe that comes after the "draft" portion when people don't have to prioritize their teams every 12 hours and can just throw up someone they think should get in? Just observations. I'm always in my head.. Tarnop posted:Manhunter knocking out John Carpenter; do you see? Why do you try and hurt me so much?
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Kangra posted:Revising my losing team from last year. Muschetti's sister film is gone, so he's out. I didn't so its fair game (and I poached Muschetti from you). I was contemplating merging Daddy Issues with The Nephilim since they're basically the same thing but que sera sera. And I do think Blackcoat's Daughter and Gretal and Hansel fit that team theme well. married but discreet posted:Speaking of gimmick teams, here's Satan Satan Satan Satan Good Satan, Great Satan I feel like you missed a 666 joke here but I can't come up with either.
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Dec 5, 2021 21:55
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Darthemed posted:OK, Goat, you talked me into it: Nominating the horror filmography of Alan Smithee. I only just learned what this means. I'm iffy on it and leaning no. But I'll let the thread decide. It would probably be a funny "team". edit: Eh, I'm leaning yes. Whatever. I'm a pushover. Its a game. Its funny. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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From a chill place Debbie nominates… Horror Comedies 1. Stephen Sayadian - Dr. Caligari 2. Daniel Scheinert/Daniel Kwan - Swiss Army Man 3. Michael Lehmann - Heathers 4. Martin Walz - Killer Condom 5. James Gunn - Slither 6. Alex Winter/Tom Stern - Freaked 7. Jim Hosking - The Greasy Strangler 8. Quentin Dupieux - Deerskin 9. Quentin Dupieux - Rubber 10. Ron Underwood - Tremors And from picking myself up off the ground and giving it another shot I nominate… The One and Not Dones (Ernest R. Dickerson, Fede Alvarez, Robert Rodriguez, Ana Lily Amirpour, Marco Dutra and Juliana Rojas, Joe Cornish, The Soska Sisters, Jason Eisener) In the fine legacy of Italian horror I’m gonna try and have success this go around by ditching what didn’t work last time and shamelessly copying the guy who won it all. No, they’re not directors who have made only one movie. They’re directors who have been in this tournament on one of my teams once already, a number of them even won their only matchup but got eliminated while on the bench. Some of them lost straight up. But they’re back together to make a run at this thing without all that dead weight and baggage. Ok, they’re not all killer movies but they are all coming for a fight. Guns loaded, weapons at the ready, its fatefully a collection of films that actually mostly feel like they fit together after all. It must be destiny… or an unexpected look into my tastes. But can this motley crew do better the second time around? 1. Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight 2. Don't Breathe 3. From Dusk Till Dawn 4. The Bad Batch 5. Hard Labor 6. Attack the Block 7. American Mary 8. See No Evil 2 9. Dead Hooker in a Trunk 10. Hobo with a Shotgun
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Yeah, I'm pumped most people seem to be going for the fun theme teams and filling most of their 10 slots. It makes for a lot more rando movies and a ton of random draw potential.Franchescanado posted:I'm happy with the teams being nominated. I don't have ideas or inspiration to make more beyond my Femme Fatale and Rule Breakers, but I love seeing what y'all are coming up with. Heads up, Team Rule Breakers only have 5 films. Unless I missed something you'll still need to add something to it to make it eligible. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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Dec 6, 2021 17:03
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Servoret posted:How about this for my guaranteed slot instead? Forties horror without Tourneur, Wise, or the Universal monsters: I love this team and had something very near to identical queued up. But its missing some of the director's movies based on the "no cherry picking" rule. They're not all 40s movies but thems the rules. Mark Robson Daddy's Gone A-Hunting Lew Landers The Raven The Boogie Man Will Get You Terrified Robert Siodmak Son of Dracula That would take you to 12 and slightly over the limit but I'd allow it as long as noone objects. But also might I humbly suggest I forfeit my Wise/Tournier team to you for your original Val Lewton themed team with Robson and allow both teams? I'm happy to do that. Your call. Class3KillStorm posted:Are we still letting people nominate teams? I had this idea kicking around for the last one but didn't get a chance to nominate anything before it was over. Yeah, rule say we have to use the other movies from the directors. So that's Holland Thinner We All Scream for Ice Cream *Two-Fisted Tales (anthology you can skip) Rock, Paper, Scissors Tom Holland's Twisted Tales Lafia Monster! Rats Yu The Trail The Occupant Bless This House *Family Man (TV movie under an hour you can skip) Skipping the two * films that brings you to 15 that's over the limit but if no one objects I'd allow it since it holds your theme together and all the adds are obscure films and some might be hard to find and skipped. Hell I'd suggest Mancini being let in would be cool even though that would jack the team to a massive 18 films but up the odds of drawing a Chucky movie. Unless anyone objects. Your call. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Dec 6, 2021 |
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Dec 6, 2021 17:33
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Franchescanado posted:Ooh, good to know. Is Daniel Isn't Real by Adam Egypt Mortimer still available? We may also have to include his film Some King of Hate (2015), which is cool with me. That does the job. You're good.
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Dec 6, 2021 17:37
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I think my 12 hours has passed... From a powerful place Debbie nominates… Team Vaginal Discharge 1. Jimmy ScreamerClauz - Reality Bleed-Through 2. Jimmy ScreamerClauz - When Black Birds Fly 3. Jimmy ScreamerClauz - Where the Dead Go to Die 4. Flying Lotus - Kuso 5. Stefan Lernous - Hotel Poseidon 6. Phil Tippett - Mad God And from an old farmhouse I nominate… Knockoffs of the Living Dead (Dan O’Bannon, Tom Savini, Zack Snyder, Edgar Wright, Mike Schneider, Krisztian Majdik and Zebediah De Sotoand, Milan Konjević and Milan Todorović, Tor Ramsey, and Hèctor Hernández Vicens) Yet another team inspired by a list I already had on Letterboxd and an obvious one to me were the MANY “sequels” to George Romero’s classic Night of the Living Dead. Romero’s films are all off doing their own thing and those Italian knockoffs aren’t here, this is for the “sequels” to a film that accidently failed to copyright itself. So because some guy forgot to put the little © on the title card one of the greatest horror films of all time is actually a film you could legally sell a copy of or make a sequel or remake for. And boy have people taken advantage of that. There’s tons of them out there and even limited to directors who didn’t have a non Living Dead film I still had my pick. In the end every film on this list has some kind of connection back to Romero. Whether its the original “knockoff” in the equally classic Return or Savini’s “official” remake or versions starring folks like Tony Todd and Ken Foree. And I’m even courting the “Cult of Snyder”. This may be my most diabolically constructed team. But its still probably half crap so as usual a coin toss for a first round knockout. That’s what I do. 1. Return of the Living Dead by Dan O’Bannon 2. Night of the Living Dead ‘90 by Tom Savini 3. Dawn of the Dead ’04 by Zack Snyder 4. Army of the Dead by Zack Snyder 5. Shaun of the Dead by Edgar Wright 6. Night of the Living Dead: Reanimated by Mike Schneider 7. Night of the Living Dead: Darkest Dawn by Krisztian Majdik and Zebediah De Soto 8. Zone of the Dead by Milan Konjević and Milan Todorović 9. Children of the Living Dead by Tor Ramsey 10. Day of the Dead: Bloodline by Hèctor Hernández Vicens Now there’s an obvious problem here in that Wright has recently released Last Night in Soho. I’m not sure where that leaves it in the “you can skip it if its hard to watch” category. Is going to a theater or paying $20 too much? It is for me but obviously not others. And will it just be on a streaming service like everything else in a month or two or 8 when and if it gets drawn? I dunno. So I’ll let you all decide. If you think it should be included I’ll cut Shaun. If not I’ll leave it.
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Basebf555 posted:Last Night in Soho will be out on blu ray(and so available as a VOD rental as well) in mid January, it's likely not to be chosen for bracketology until after that date. Yeah. So I'll pull it. It was always a reach. Shame but thems the rules.
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