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this game was the most cathartic experience possible after however long of listening all these  takes about how all you need to do in the NFL is throw the ball big time, im loving every minute of this
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If an NFL team tried to run the ball that much every game their RBs would be dead by midseason.
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Dec 8, 2021 17:23
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Dec 8, 2021 17:25
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it was the perfect game plan for those conditions, except for mac freelancing into one ill-advised first half pass attempt and the pats cowardly calling two more pass attempts in the second half would it be the perfect game plan in other conditions? idk but i'd love to see it
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Dec 8, 2021 17:29
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They scored 14 points, which isn't usually enough to win a football game, so probably not.
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Dec 8, 2021 17:31
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Dec 8, 2021 17:41
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Magicpants posted:this game was the most cathartic experience possible after however long of listening all these Ok, help me understand: in all other games without weather conditions like Buffalo, are NFL teams more likely or less likely to win by running the ball 90% of the time?
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Dec 8, 2021 17:43
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You got me there, I guess not every team should run on every single down forever from now on. I looked through my spreadsheets and I have to admit that the forward pass is valuable when teams are behind to get caught up. Anyway, lets see what our old friend Andrew Russell has been up since the game, besides blocking everyone who disagrees with his analysis https://twitter.com/PFF_AndrewR/status/1468033439098093568 lol I’m pretty sure the Bills had their chance… https://twitter.com/PFF_AndrewR/status/1467982785243754503 ok this crosses the line, this isn’t funny anymore, execute this man
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Dec 8, 2021 20:31
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I don't know who Andrew Russell is but I want him to know that his life is a lie and his existence is a joke to me
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Dec 8, 2021 20:36
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Josh Allen should've made more Big Time Throws
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Dec 8, 2021 21:01
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Josh Allen should've made more Big Time Throws I mean poo poo Diggs dropping one deep touchdown pass that was right on the money was the main difference in that game. If he caught that they win, but he didn't
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Dec 8, 2021 21:06
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These kind of counter-factuals are a bit silly. That drop was in the middle of the 3rd quarter. I doubt New England would have continued to just run it for minimal gain in the 4th and burn clock if they didn't have the lead. The whole game would have played out differently. Still, it was a great throw.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:These kind of counter-factuals are a bit silly. That drop was in the middle of the 3rd quarter. I doubt New England would have continued to just run it for minimal gain in the 4th and burn clock if they didn't have the lead. The whole game would have played out differently. True but one thing we know for sure is that the game WOULD'VE been played out differently, likely a lot differently, and it would've given the Bills a pretty good chance to win, at least. Rarely does an entire game hinge on a single play as much as that one, mostly just due to the inclement conditions and how hard it was to get decent attempts down the field. That was their best chance and I actually stopped watching after that because i decided that was game, realistically. and in the end it was
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Dec 8, 2021 21:30
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It was over in the first quarter when McDermitt decided not to go for 2.  But seriously that was an incredibly stupid coaching decision that completely came back to bite them in the rear end.
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Dec 8, 2021 21:35
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What the Bills really should have done was stop that 64 yard run
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It'd be smart if teams simply won every game instead of losing games. Statistics suggest this to be a good thing!
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Magicpants posted:You got me there, I guess not every team should run on every single down forever from now on. I looked through my spreadsheets and I have to admit that the forward pass is valuable when teams are behind to get caught up. Swirlies solve dorks imo
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Dec 8, 2021 23:44
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Mega64 posted:It'd be smart if teams simply won every game instead of losing games. Statistics suggest this to be a good thing! this is the type of poo poo these nerds are cooking up in their mom's basement
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Play posted:Rarely does an entire game hinge on a single play as much as that one, mostly just due to the inclement conditions and how hard it was to get decent attempts down the field. That was their best chance and I actually stopped watching after that because i decided that was game, realistically. and in the end it was The Bills had multiple chances both in the redzone and critical drops(hello Dawson Knox) to make major plays but if they had we wouldn't have Magic Pants spraying his cum everywhere.
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Dec 9, 2021 00:42
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well if you guys get to fantasize about the game where josh allen hits diggs on a prayer, then its only fair i get to fantasize about the game where the ball doesnt scrape off nkeal harrys facemask so the bills don't even get that 1 gift TD, and that is very very hot fantasy for me 
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I'm bored, somebody fight me about advanced NFL stats
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blarzgh posted:I'm bored, somebody fight me about advanced NFL stats Half sacks should be counted as full sacks for a player's stats
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Chucktesla posted:Half sacks should be counted as full sacks for a player's stats sacks should be split among the number of plays getting sacks. "TJ Watt gets the partial sack and he's up to 11.375 sacks for the season!"
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Dec 10, 2021 19:23
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Chucktesla posted:Half sacks should be counted as full sacks for a player's stats Sacks should be counted for fun, but for analytical purposes, QB pressures, and Pass Rush Win rate are more meaningful!
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blarzgh posted:Sacks should be counted for fun, but for analytical purposes, QB pressures, and Pass Rush Win rate are more meaningful! True but Deacon Jones didn't die for six half sacks to mean that a player has sacked a quarterback three times!
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Dec 10, 2021 19:35
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Pass rushers should be covered by a stat that measures newtons of force applied to the quarterback. Who cares if you bearhug and gently lay the Quarterback down vs a screaming linebacker hitting Roethlisberger so hard all you hear is the extremely beefy slap followed by an agonized groan.
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Kalli posted:Pass rushers should be covered by a stat that measures newtons of force applied to the quarterback. tbf Ben could make any sack look and seem like a brutal assault on his person purely through the power of his self-pitying wince
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Dec 10, 2021 19:43
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Kalli posted:Pass rushers should be covered by a stat that measures newtons of force applied to the quarterback. Ben groans getting up from sitting
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Chucktesla posted:Half sacks should be counted as full sacks for a player's stats Yeah half sacks are dumb. The whole reason they were invented was so that in the box score the individual sacks would add up to the total sacks. But obviously you shouldn't get dinged because someone else also did their job. blarzgh posted:Sacks should be counted for fun, but for analytical purposes, QB pressures, and Pass Rush Win rate are more meaningful! Best example of this is garbage rear end Dante Fowler getting 11.5 sacks cause he lined up next to Aaron Donald and just cleaned up the chaos he caused.
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is pepsi ok posted:Yeah half sacks are dumb. The whole reason they were invented was so that in the box score the individual sacks would add up to the total sacks. But obviously you shouldn't get dinged because someone else also did their job. They don't tell you who's better, but like in that example it tells you who's been more productive that season and who's likely to be in other games that season. 'Cuz unless Donald gets injured, teams are still gonna be putting everyone on him and letting Fowler go 1 on 1 with a guard or TE or RB or nothing to get more help on Donald.
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Nodoze posted:Ben groans getting up from sitting Ben looks like a guy who spends an hour on the toilet taking a poo poo and groans the whole time.
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https://twitter.com/FlyByKnite/status/1470142125119447047?s=20 take that nerds
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"Well, more points are better that fewer points, so we did the things that get us more points." "Yeah but show me the analytics on how my high school football coach used to make us run wind sprints until we threw up and you couldn't get a water break until after practice was over unless one offensive lineman stroked out then show me the analytics on that!!"
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This thing that every team at every level is doing is obviously wrong because it's different and scary to me. The worst takes on analytics are always the ones that boil down to "I don't understand what probabilities are"
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blarzgh posted:"Well, more points are better that fewer points, so we did the things that get us more points." The context there is the Browns turtled up the entire 2nd half scoring nothing while the Ravens got back within a Justin Tucker field goal. Stefanski etc making such a big deal about analytics should be getting dragged for whatever that nonsense was. The play calling absolutely collapses into stupid when the Browns have a lead in the 2nd half Ches Neckbeard fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Dec 13, 2021 |
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 CPOE is the red-headed-stepchild of nerd stats Also: look at that crazy divergence on Burrow
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Nosre posted:
pretty funny how PFF is basically the opposite of everything else in so many examples. talk poo poo on stats or advanced stats but at least they are based on real, quantifiable things
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Otoh they're right about Burrow.
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CPOE, and to an extent PFF grades are averages, whereas Total EPA, DYOA, DYAR, and QBR are volume stats, which explains some of the disparity
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