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vortmax posted:The city opened cooling centers during the day, and the public library welcomed everyone. Not a single Evangelical church that had electricity in a town of 60k residents offered to open their empty, unused, air-conditioned buildings to people in need of shelter. Why do people have to live outside? When there are buildings all around us With heat on and no one inside? Why do people have to live outside? We have the resources We have the means Why? e: JFC, what a snipe…
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Halloween Jack posted:I think it's pretty straightforward: the fundamentalist private school industry creates a lot of useful idiots for Republican orgs, but doesn't produce a lot of savvy operators with the social skills to develop an independent base of power. I can't imagine someone who went through an ACE school and Bob Jones University becoming a mover and shaker. People like Roy Moore are the outlier, I guess. They are kinda shooting themselves in the foot right from the start with that "blanket training" bullshit. Just sit passively, never reach for anything better, never try to improve your situation. That may make your little kids less troublesome, but it doesn't prepare them to be functional
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Facebook Aunt posted:They are kinda shooting themselves in the foot right from the start with that "blanket training" bullshit. Just sit passively, never reach for anything better, never try to improve your situation. That may make your little kids less troublesome, but it doesn't prepare them to be functional yeah, they can't raise charasmatic types who can bring in outsiders or make their bullshit sound better or more palitable because all the beliefs are already perfect and unquestioning.
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Facebook Aunt posted:They are kinda shooting themselves in the foot right from the start with that "blanket training" bullshit. Just sit passively, never reach for anything better, never try to improve your situation. That may make your little kids less troublesome, but it doesn't prepare them to be functional Reminds me of all that abstinence only education a lot of these Uber religious people have, how girls are taught that they're dirty and sinful and all these horrible things, and boys might get taught not to have sex before marriage but they're never told they'll make them dirty and disgusting. And then people are surprised when the girls and women don't enjoy sex. I think it was a thread we had a while ago, or maybe it was an article linked to that where a Hasidic Jewish man was explaining daily life, that he had two daughters and was strong in his faith, and when he was asked if he could change anything in his life, he admitted he wished his wife enjoyed sex because he very much did and she did not. And of course that was after a lifetime of being told how filthy and dirty she would be if she ever did it before marriage. That kind of mental beating doesn't go away just because you put a ring on a finger. Of course logically in these religions women aren't supposed to enjoy sex, but it still made me kind of laughing that dark humor way that this dude couldn't understand why his wife didn't enjoy something that he very much did, and he was kind of worried about his daughters growing up the same way but was not at all going to change anything to prevent it from happening.
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Facebook Aunt posted:They are kinda shooting themselves in the foot right from the start with that "blanket training" bullshit. Just sit passively, never reach for anything better, never try to improve your situation. That may make your little kids less troublesome, but it doesn't prepare them to be functional 21? Nah, church kids don't grow up till 24 at the earliest if they don't do something to get themselves disowned or step out themselves. The entire church system shelters them so hard they're about 2-3 years behind mentally and emotionally if they're 'well-adjusted', and these cases are anything but. They also basically don't believe in teenagers as anything but a distinction for why your darling child who was so obedient at 10 is now doing things like 'questioning you' 2 years later, so now it's time to really get the indoctrination going. Beyond that, they have a wild fascination with the idea that gradually letting people grow from childhood into adults is responsible for all sorts of (non-useful to the system) things, and instead there should basically be a ritual that immediately transitions you from child to adult. It's great, because suddenly you go from being a child who had particular expectations put on you, but was also not expected to be competent to immediately having different expectations on you and being yelled at for acting like a child and not doing it the adult way, which you have never been taught about. Spend the next two years trying to ad hoc your own education about it and then you might be able to do something without feeling like every action you take is the wrong one. It's like Armed Forces Basic Training to break people down, only the recruits aren't even really people yet and have nothing to break down, and the build up is to make them actual monsters instead of soldiers, who consistently will still feel bad and have nightmares about the poo poo they do.
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Torchlighter posted:21? Nah, church kids don't grow up till 24 at the earliest if they don't do something to get themselves disowned or step out themselves. The entire church system shelters them so hard they're about 2-3 years behind mentally and emotionally if they're 'well-adjusted', and these cases are anything but. Is there anything out there that describes this stuff in greater detail? Like any scholarship or something I could read?
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I AM GRANDO posted:Is there anything out there that describes this stuff in greater detail? Like any scholarship or something I could read? I'll admit to this being significantly more anecdotal and tinged with my own personal recollections, in case you can't tell. I don't have any scholarly writings on it, the closest I could find off hand is 'Christians in the Hand of an Angry God', which is a series of blog posts more about how American Evangelical Christianity in the 60's made a cynical and self-interested move towards deliberate support of the Republican Party than the tangential effect it has on growing up. I'm sure there are some out there, but I haven't the grounding to find them with a cursory search, sorry.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Is there anything out there that describes this stuff in greater detail? Like any scholarship or something I could read? Read this recently in the Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/interactive/2023/christian-home-schoolers-revolt/
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That’s more of an individual experience, not a rule or standard. Not being expected to be competent or responsible as a child is really unusual in these circles imo. Think about how young the Duggars had to start cooking, cleaning, caring for their younger siblings. You start working very young and you’re absolutely expected not to gently caress it up because everyone is counting on you. I think the girls started midwifery training (like for professional jobs) in their young teens, like 13 or 14. One of the boys also got a pilot’s license young. I’m not saying they’re as emotionally mature as their secular peers, but usually responsibility is moved younger, not older. Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Jul 7, 2023 |
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Anne Whateley posted:Think about how young the Duggars had to start cooking, cleaning, caring for their younger siblings.
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I can see how you would definitely start feeling the weight of responsibility at a young age if your mother handed you a baby sister at 12 years old and commanded you to start taking care of it. I can also see how there would be a distinction between child and adult in terms of how much you were expected to manage on your own: carpentry upkeep on the house at 12 vs budgeting and managing the cult’s car lot money laundering service at 20.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Is there anything out there that describes this stuff in greater detail? Like any scholarship or something I could read? I’ve been watching the “cults to consciousness” videos and I’m pretty sure it started as a podcast. Several of the guests tell their stories about being raised in the IBLP. I can’t remember if this episode gets into what you’re asking about. Trigger warning for discussion of sexual abuse and grooming in the majority of the videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElVaj7jv4qE
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This Is the Zodiac posted:Disciplining them too. One of the girls' responsibilities was to ensure their brothers didn't get any lustful thoughts, so whenever an insufficiently modest woman was nearby they were supposed to make sure the boys weren't looking. Boner patrol is the worst jurisdiction of them all
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Serious_Cyclone posted:Boner patrol is the worst jurisdiction of them all Nike!!
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Looks like Josh was attempting to appeal his conviction but he just got smacked down hard. Read on for his attempted basis for the appeal:Associated Press posted:Appeals court upholds Josh Duggar’s conviction for downloading child sex abuse images  Eat poo poo Josh.Full article.
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George Bush walking around NYC "What's all this about someone knocking down some towers?"
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The guard monitoring Epstein’s cell: “did somebody commit suicide?”
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"We're all trying to find the guy who downloaded the csam"
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Powered Descent posted:Looks like Josh was attempting to appeal his conviction but he just got smacked down hard. Read on for his attempted basis for the appeal:  Your Honor, I'd like a new trial because the judge didn't do me a solid and ignore the incredibly incriminating statements I made completely unprompted when federal investigators showed up to my car dealership what a loving jackass Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Aug 8, 2023 |
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Future for Josh Duggar https://twitter.com/CureBore/status/1688238606463152128?s=20
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Without waiting for an explanation, Duggar blurted out, “[w]hat is this about? Has somebody been downloading child pornography?
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Without waiting for an explanation, Duggar blurted out, “[w]hat is this about? Has somebody been downloading child pornography? Yes that’s exactly right. As if that’s 90% of why feds show up anywhere and he was eager to be as helpful as possible despite his previous rumored transgressions along those lines. I’m sure the feds appreciated his help though.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Without waiting for an explanation, Duggar blurted out, “[w]hat is this about? Has somebody been downloading child pornography? I know it seems like a really funny joke to blurt this out when the cop gets to your window when you get pulled over for speeding but Chances are the cop won’t get the joke and you’ll end up being there for a long time trying to explain yourself
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it's the ultimate endgame of a evangelical cult that teaches men all you do is go "oh whoops did I do that?" and all is forgiven
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MrQwerty posted:it's the ultimate endgame of a evangelical cult that teaches men all you do is go "oh whoops did I do that?" and all is forgiven "Oh, man, sorry about that. What a boner!" - either Josh apologizing, old-timey-style, or... him talking about something else.
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MrQwerty posted:it's the ultimate endgame of a evangelical cult that teaches men all you do is go "oh whoops did I do that?" and all is forgiven All of a sudden, Steve Urkel comes across as a completely different person.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Reminds me of all that abstinence only education a lot of these Uber religious people have, how girls are taught that they're dirty and sinful and all these horrible things, and boys might get taught not to have sex before marriage but they're never told they'll make them dirty and disgusting. And then people are surprised when the girls and women don't enjoy sex. I think it was a thread we had a while ago, or maybe it was an article linked to that where a Hasidic Jewish man was explaining daily life, that he had two daughters and was strong in his faith, and when he was asked if he could change anything in his life, he admitted he wished his wife enjoyed sex because he very much did and she did not. And of course that was after a lifetime of being told how filthy and dirty she would be if she ever did it before marriage. 
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The worlds tiniest yarmulke, carefully matched to his hair colour and positioned so it blends in. Can’t go around looking TOO Jewish, of course, otherwise nazis won’t be able to categorise him as “one of the good ones”.
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god please help me posted:Why even wear a yarmulke at that point? The same reason anyone does. They're a tool.
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No. 6 posted:The same reason anyone does. They're a tool. So uh, quick question: are all Jews tools then?
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Seth Pecksniff posted:So uh, quick question: are all Jews tools then? All people of faith are. They're tools of their own delusion. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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so's any egotistical nihilist who thinks they know what's what. turns out we're just all scrabbling in the dark, makin' up stories to get by.
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