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Snuff Melange posted:It's hard for me to imagine my fellow BYOB posters using any kind of serious distro, so upon finding this thread for the first time I choose to believe you're all on Hannah Montana Linux. I mean, ubuntu is not considered a serious distro in yospos so…
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raspberry pi linux for x86 is actually pretty decent
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Jun 23, 2023 00:48
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Snuff Melange posted:It's hard for me to imagine my fellow BYOB posters using any kind of serious distro, so upon finding this thread for the first time I choose to believe you're all on Hannah Montana Linux. Around the time my wife(years into us knowing/dating/marrying) declared to me her big thing with having birds, which I guess I didn't notice with her never once saying it or knowing anyone with birds or even being sure she knew what a bird was(to be honest the woman once saw me open a mackerel can and said she didn't know it was fish, she thought it was like tuna) apart from knowing to cook chicken, I had this feathery dudes start showing up in our house. One was kinda a dick and only bit me, then one was kinda a dick and only didn't bite me. Then there were the big birds. Gotta love Macaws. Brilliant little monsters. But even the little ones were still parrots. So, I use ParrotOS Security or ParrotSec OS(always forget how they call it now since they do home distros and stuff too. But I fully appreciate OSes that are a pisstake and even moreso if it's actually a product of effort. Sadly, I am missing the target demo for HML. But, a PowerPuffGirlsLinux... New loving main.  I'd have to have so many aliases for things just to make me laugh. sudo = mojo sb hermit posted:I mean, ubuntu is not considered a serious distro in yospos so… Does that rule out Devil-Linux? honestly I haven't used ubuntu in almost a decade, but it being around still must mean it's not too bad. I used it on a couple things then started Minting stuff and eventually went to Manjaro for refurbing old laptops that people just wanted to 'work'. Better to run a g/l distro on a laptop, that's only getting used as a host for a browser, than some bloated rear end window pains. |
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Jun 23, 2023 00:58
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When I went to set up this Windows box with Linux it defaulted to Ubuntu. I was like, I think it's time to go back to Debian, so I removed Ubuntu and installed Debian. It's been going okay. |
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Jun 23, 2023 02:00
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A Bad King posted:I can utilize gui apps. Whoa, it even supports Wayland apps! |
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Jun 23, 2023 02:02
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I actually do love ParrotOS and prefer it to Kali although I couldn't articulate any technical advantage or reason why. Prettier terminal?
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Jun 23, 2023 02:26
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Snuff Melange posted:I actually do love ParrotOS and prefer it to Kali although I couldn't articulate any technical advantage or reason why. Lol, pre-installed bgs. I've tested Kali but never needed to use it much since they play well with parrot and help each other. I do love the parrot on screenfetch tho. Sometimes it's a small thing like a cute bird in the background while a dev records a vid on the update. Haha https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4
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Jun 23, 2023 03:40
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nesamdoom posted:Lol, pre-installed bgs. I've tested Kali but never needed to use it much since they play well with parrot and help each other. Yeah at this point I feel I've spent a fair amount of time in both and never really noticed a difference in entry-level cybersec activities. Maybe at a higher level you'd run into a distinction and actual advantages or disadvantages, but from my perspective they're both just Linux that you can install stuff on and tweak as needed. Feels like both Parrot and Kali have pretty much all the usual cybersec tools pre-packaged so 
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Snuff Melange posted:Yeah at this point I feel I've spent a fair amount of time in both and never really noticed a difference in entry-level cybersec activities. Maybe at a higher level you'd run into a distinction and actual advantages or disadvantages, but from my perspective they're both just Linux that you can install stuff on and tweak as needed. I teach extremely high level cysec, and as long as you have a C compiler, a go compiler, and Python, you can do 100% of what I teach. In fact I've never used Kali or Parrot, although I've helped students debug OS issues on their installs. |
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Jun 23, 2023 14:50
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cruft posted:I teach extremely high level cysec, and as long as you have a C compiler, a go compiler, and Python, you can do 100% of what I teach. That makes sense actually, I've sometimes assumed OS's like Kali are kind of a crutch? Or at least not something an actual super l33t pentester would go for. e: What's teaching extremely high level cysec like? That sounds pretty cool and interesting.
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Jun 23, 2023 16:45
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Snuff Melange posted:That makes sense actually, I've sometimes assumed OS's like Kali are kind of a crutch? Or at least not something an actual super l33t pentester would go for. There's a fine line between a crutch and a tool. I think a lot of pentesters get proficient at running Metasploit and can get pretty good work with just that. The really good ones are like the guy in the 90s who read the source code to MIT Kerberos and figured out how to pull credentials from disk and hop around the network grabbing increasingly more access. Those are people who write the new Metasploit things, I guess. In my event, we say we don't teach how to follow recipes, we teach how to write cookbooks. My particular class teaches you how to take a PCAP file from malware C2 traffic, and through an understanding of Internet protocol design, information theory, and cryptography, write a custom decoder for it. I run the whole program, though: other classes learn to pull apart APT malware and recognize capabilities, remote hostnames of interest, and registry keys and filenames of interest; another class learns how filesystems work across multiple operating systems, and how to recover deleted files from on-disk blocks, how to discover and search filesystem metadata, and other stuff (I haven't taken this class yet). All the classes teach how to interact with people doing work in the other classes because frequently you'll find something that would be incredibly helpful to someone else. We also teach incident investigation management: how to coordinate the people doing that work, and how to put everything together into a cohesive story that's relevant to management stakeholders. This is my main job responsibility so it's easy for me to rattle off a ton of words with very little prompting 
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Jun 23, 2023 17:12
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cruft posted:There's a fine line between a crutch and a tool. I think a lot of pentesters get proficient at running Metasploit and can get pretty good work with just that. The really good ones are like the guy in the 90s who read the source code to MIT Kerberos and figured out how to pull credentials from disk and hop around the network grabbing increasingly more access. Those are people who write the new Metasploit things, I guess. That sounds sick, ty for the extra details. Especially impressed by the cryptography and custom decoding. I need to get around to any kind of reverse engineering one day.
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Jun 23, 2023 17:38
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Do you ever want a roguelike os? https://qntm.org/suicide |
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nesamdoom posted:Do you ever want a roguelike os? I think one time I wrote about one or two megabytes to the start of a disk that was a member of a raid and had to immediately mark said disk as defective and pull it out of service. That's what I get for not double-checking my commands. And my annoying habit of blanking out every temporary use USB stick.
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Also, in maybe more relevant history, there used to be a way to use a text adventure style interface to do kernel build configuration. https://lwn.net/2001/0621/a/kernel-adventure.php3 Also, there used to be a game called "psdoom" which was doom, but all the monsters were assigned process IDs. You could renice a process to be slower by shooting the monster. Killing the monster would kill the process: https://web.archive.org/web/20050414134315/http://www.crazy-hacks.org/wiki/PsDooM
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nesamdoom posted:Do you ever want a roguelike os? the very low stakes version of this is installing sl https://man.cx/sl(6) oh dang bbcode doesn't like parens in a url one bit
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Jul 6, 2023 07:03
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lol, that manpage did zero to help me understand what that does. I'm gonna assume it's some wizardy that's beyond me. All I know of sl is psdoom sounds awesome and it'd be cool to use with ssh on a network. I'd maybe even consider a throwaway laptop being an option to run that and waste time not using htop. |
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Jul 6, 2023 12:57
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I'm glad you mentioned psdoom before I had to. The author of psdoom went to the University of New Mexico, and has a couple other papers published that are pretty bonkers. |
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Jul 6, 2023 13:31
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I'm testing a router based approach to my phone/proxy thing. The downside would be needing to comment out the previous solution from my rc, but the upside would be that connections would have static ips so I wouldn't need to mess with them. Another downside is that I only have a 2.4ghz router, which I'm not sure will matter much for speed... That's more of an update to my continued fight with phone ISP and not directly Linux related. The article told me that the processes attack each other, which would be funny if the psdoom process started slaughtering everything else. quote:I would like to thank the Adaptive Computation Group at UNM for providing a supportive environment in which one can claim one is doing research while playing Doom for two days. |
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I had an idea, that I don't currently know how to implement, to slip a cron job into someone's computer as a joke. The joke being that it would take the max cpu clock speed and every 5 minutes reduce it exponentially. If possible to slip it into boot would be hilarious. I'd love to watch them slowly build up frustration as the computer slowed and rebooting would be my first suggestion, which would seemingly work for the first bit of time after. More importantly, outside of a work setting and only as a one day then fix it kinda thing, is this funny or just being an rear end in a top hat? |
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Jul 7, 2023 01:25
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nesamdoom posted:I had an idea, that I don't currently know how to implement, to slip a cron job into someone's computer as a joke. The joke being that it would take the max cpu clock speed and every 5 minutes reduce it exponentially. If possible to slip it into boot would be hilarious. I'd love to watch them slowly build up frustration as the computer slowed and rebooting would be my first suggestion, which would seemingly work for the first bit of time after. If it's only funny to you, it's being an rear end in a top hat. As a concept it's amusing. Actually being on the receiving end would not be amusing. |
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Jul 7, 2023 02:38
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with all these computers and their multiple cores, it may just go unnoticed by a lot of people unless they're running applications that are unable to take advantage of multiple cores in the first place they may find it a bit slower and the computer a bit quieter
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Jul 7, 2023 03:44
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Yea, I mostly think it'd be assholish if they were active. But less, as pointed, with multicores and especially high clocks. But I think it matters. It'd be a huge pain while doing graphics or video stuff, less if just browsing. The person I was thinking bout has an old dual core laptop with manjaro I set up so they could mostly watch porn and go to Reddit. Dude is boring to hang with kuz he don't talk and just stares at the screen. That all as is, it'd be funny to me but not him. So I'd be an rear end in a top hat I thinks. https://i.imgur.com/1qBoiAi.mp4
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nesamdoom posted:Yea, I mostly think it'd be assholish if they were active. But less, as pointed, with multicores and especially high clocks. But I think it matters. It'd be a huge pain while doing graphics or video stuff, less if just browsing. hmm. A redditor, you say... well that changes things, but does it change it enough? Too much is always not enough! |
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Jul 7, 2023 23:29
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Haven’t posted in a while due to chronic illness :c Has anyone here tried *BSD? I tried to use FreeBSD but X11 wouldn’t start on one PC and I couldn’t get the Wifi card working on another one so I just gave up.
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Yuu Morisawa posted:Haven’t posted in a while due to chronic illness :c I should, but I haven’t. May put NetBSD on a couple of exotic or archaic (or both!) devices
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Aug 15, 2023 05:51
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I ran some bsd on my vps for years and jails were very cool. Basically every individual service I ran got its own little virtual environment
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I've gotten back into desktop customization and everyone is using cursive fonts now o.o settled on ProFont mono for now I really want one of those cool fonts that combine characters but I'm not sure if I want to make that many changes so fast, I think I'd need a new terminal btw arch |
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oatmealraisin posted:everyone is using cursive fonts now They are what 
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Aug 26, 2023 10:48
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I'm trying to picture a terminal in cursive and it seems like the most unproductive thing. I'd have to actually wear my glasses. But, wouldn't it break fun stuff like ascii art? |
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Aug 26, 2023 13:30
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nesamdoom posted:I'm trying to picture a terminal in cursive and it seems like the most unproductive thing. I'd have to actually wear my glasses. But, wouldn't it break fun stuff like ascii art? break? no make more fun? absolutely! Too much is always not enough! |
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Aug 26, 2023 15:36
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I had a look at the official windows themes supported by Chicago95 yesterday and it made me long for a absolutely terrible and garish BYOB theme    
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Aug 26, 2023 15:42
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alexandriao posted:I had a look at the official windows themes supported by Chicago95 yesterday and it made me long for a absolutely terrible and garish BYOB theme very 90s, I approve
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Aug 26, 2023 20:14
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dune ii was a dos game, though It’s a very good game! One of the first modern RTS games with an incredible soundtrack and solid gameplay.
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Aug 26, 2023 20:15
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alexandriao posted:break? no It's so pretty  (i asked the ppl at r/unixporn discord for a screenie of someone using it, not mine) |
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That looks cool, I could imagine it being fun with lolcat to read things. I still cringe at imagining normal use, but I also have never used cursive for more than reading letters from my gmum. I'm gonna find a font I can deal with and set up a terminal for it. Might drive me insane and I'll probably have to wear glasses, but if I can get used to it enough for short bursts then I'll use it when people are around to look cool 
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Aug 30, 2023 14:45
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I always wanted to try Linux From Scratch but the only computer I have that I could try a hobby project like that on is this old Pentium 4 box and it would probably take forever. Should I do it anyway?
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emSparkly posted:I always wanted to try Linux From Scratch but the only computer I have that I could try a hobby project like that on is this old Pentium 4 box and it would probably take forever. Should I do it anyway? Of course, sounds like it would be a good learning experience if that's what you are looking for.
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emSparkly posted:I always wanted to try Linux From Scratch but the only computer I have that I could try a hobby project like that on is this old Pentium 4 box and it would probably take forever. Should I do it anyway? You must. |
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IDK id recommend alpine for the same experience but spread across the entire lifetime of the OS
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