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I think the take is Taysom Hill would still be a garbage QB regardless of whether his finger was injured.
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No he was obviously just Tom Brady before being felled by an act of God
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Dec 4, 2021 00:41
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I think there is a possibility where Taysom Hill is both not a good QB and played worse than he otherwise would have if he didn't have an exploded finger on his throwing hand.
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Dec 4, 2021 01:19
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BlindSite posted:I think there is a possibility where Taysom Hill is both not a good QB and played worse than he otherwise would have if he didn't have an exploded finger on his throwing hand. Don't confuse me for someone cheering for Taysom time, but the depths of his performance were totally due to a busted finger with a splint on his throwing hand.
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Dec 4, 2021 02:31
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lot of questions about choosing to send out a guy with a busted finger to finish out the game.
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Dec 4, 2021 03:18
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As long as he can hold on to the football might as well let him run around.
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Dec 4, 2021 03:32
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Asproigerosis posted:lot of questions about choosing to send out a guy with a busted finger to finish out the game. Looking at Trevor Siemian, I got no questions.
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Kalli posted:Looking at Trevor Siemian, I got no questions. It's a choice of a) A guy who can't throw vs. b) A guy who can't throw or run and takes forever to figure out whether or not he's going to attempt to not do one of those things.
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Dec 4, 2021 04:59
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A.o.D. posted:It's a choice of a) A guy who can't throw
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Mega64 posted:I think the take is Taysom Hill would still be a garbage QB regardless of whether his finger was injured. Yes
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Eh...Trevor Siemian's an OK backup. If he's playing your season is probably already done for, but he won't embarrass himself out there. Why they wanted to play Hill over him...I'll never understand.
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Dec 4, 2021 07:58
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Kirios posted:Eh...Trevor Siemian's an OK backup. If he's playing your season is probably already done for, but he won't embarrass himself out there.
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wyoak posted:They were 0-4 with Siemian and the offense was a disaster, why wouldn’t they try something different I mean the things Hill is good at he was pretty damned good at in that game. The things he is not particularly good at are unfortunately the most important things, also made worse by injury, and he was impressively not good there.
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Dec 4, 2021 08:31
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Teddy Bridgewater was 5-1 as Saints QB while Brees was injured. And they let him go and they thought “Let’s just roll the dice on Jameis Winston; what could go wrong? Also let’s try to play a guy at QB who should only touch the ball 8-10 times a game during gimmicky trick plays!” The Saints failing on a massive level to prepare themselves for life after Drew Brees is an indictment of Sean Payton.
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Dec 4, 2021 08:47
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Gonz posted:Teddy Bridgewater was 5-1 as Saints QB while Brees was injured. That was 2 years ago when they had a good pass rush, slant boy was healthy along with a wall for an offensive line and a strong run game.
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Dec 4, 2021 08:57
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Without Kamara, Siemian had been playing with the league's worst set of skill position players outside of MAYBE the Lions and current day Titans.
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fsif posted:Without Kamara, Siemian had been playing with the league's worst set of skill position players outside of MAYBE the Lions and current day Titans. This is fair, but Siemian is still very slow to make decisions, not especially accurate, and cannot make plays with his feet.
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Oh yeah, I don't doubt Siemian has been bad on his own (he was QB3 for a reason), it's just that it's not a situation any backup quarterback in the league could make hay with. Might as well give it to Taysom and try and run an offense that remove the need for other skill players at all.
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Gonz posted:Teddy Bridgewater was 5-1 as Saints QB while Brees was injured. They were 5-2 this season before everyone important died. Teddy cost 20 million dollars and sucks.
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So is Jameis the locked in day 1 starter next year?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So is Jameis the locked in day 1 starter next year? I don’t think it’s a lock, but there’s a pretty good chance he’s the starter next year, unfortunately. I think they’d draft or trade for a guy if someone they liked was available though.
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Gonz posted:Teddy Bridgewater was 5-1 as Saints QB while Brees was injured. The saints had a top WR, top RB, top tier O-line, and a pretty decent defense to start the season. But then they all died. QB was always going to be a question, and its hard to win with a QB who does nothing but wait for their turn ala Jordan Love. Also Teddie suuuuuuuuuuuuucked. All he did was hand off to Kamara and throw to Thomas. The same thing Siemien, Hill, or the rapist could do too but much cheaper.
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Dec 4, 2021 15:44
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Fortunately the saints didn't do some sort of bizarre contract gimmick where taysom would get paid huge if he got snaps at qb.
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Asproigerosis posted:Fortunately the saints didn't do some sort of bizarre contract gimmick where taysom would get paid huge if he got snaps at qb. All of the escalators are performance based so I don’t think there’s much worry about him getting paid. Outside of the bonuses for passing yard and passing TDs most of the others are tied to him playing 70% or more of offensive snaps and the team winning 11 or more games.
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taysom is the hill sean payton wants to die on
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Gonz posted:The Saints failing on a massive level to prepare themselves for life after Drew Brees is an indictment of Sean Payton. what preparation is there for life after one of the most prolific passers of all time? I’d argue going from a gimpy Brees to a decent-looking Jameis is about as well as you can realistically hope for. the injury sucks and makes it look worse than it is, but it’s not like they were scrambling to find someone in August. having Brees and that defense put them out of contention to draft a credible successor, and it’s not like top 12 QBs are on the market (FA or trade). could they have drafted Dak in the third round to sit behind Brees for a few years? obviously, ~25 teams in the league wish they’d done that, but that’s not really a situation you can prepare for
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ahhh its nice to have everyone on the same page that the Saints are a bad team this year. early on people were arguing they were still solid and could get a wildcard spot but it feels good to have reality set in. no, the team that lost one of the best passers of all time isn't gonna instantly be ok. i still think payton is a wizard and if he gets anyone remotely mediocre back in they'll be competitive
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I mean had injuries not got them they could have got into the playoffs. With the extra spot it’s a lot easier to get in them people realize
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Maybe those Saints players should have simply not injured themselves
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Relentlessboredomm posted:ahhh its nice to have everyone on the same page that the Saints are a bad team this year. early on people were arguing they were still solid and could get a wildcard spot but it feels good to have reality set in. no, the team that lost one of the best passers of all time isn't gonna instantly be ok. i still think payton is a wizard and if he gets anyone remotely mediocre back in they'll be competitive They were 5-2 with wins over the Packers, Bucs and Pats. They were absolutely a solid team but they have no depth and a bunch of important players died. They weren’t going to win a super bowl or anything but they weren’t a bad team, just a flawed one.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:they wouldnt have gotten in even fully healthy and every team is injured to hell and back https://mobile.twitter.com/reinhurdler/status/1465726567494164486
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YOLOsubmarine posted:They were 5-2 with wins over the Packers, Bucs and Pats. They were absolutely a solid team but they have no depth and a bunch of important players died. They weren’t going to win a super bowl or anything but they weren’t a bad team, just a flawed one. yea they had a really fabulous stretch of luck while the defense played out of their minds. now that things have settled down they're exactly what they were always going to be this season, a team that just lost a HoF QB with no clear replacement.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:so the saints are tied for 2nd fewest injuries this season, that's hilarious. i do feel for the titans, they don't have a ton of injuries but they're literally all to their WRs and Henry. someone on the team wished for minimal injuries and julio jones paid the price ?????????????????? They have more injuries than everyone
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Metapod posted:?????????????????? They have more injuries than everyone am I reading it backwards? i thought number of players active is number of different players that have had to start bc of injury.
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Metapod posted:?????????????????? They have more injuries than everyone Yeah they're reading the chart completely opposite
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Relentlessboredomm posted:am I reading it backwards? i thought number of players active is number of different players that have had to start bc of injury. They have played more unique players (84) than every other team in the history of the sport for the entirety of a season and it's week 13
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Ohhhhh its saying active as in, have played every game. drat that was very unclear to me.
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