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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Firsona: a good name for bonsai/horticulture channel or no?

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Phylodox posted:

Channel URL: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1WXSRUiZ5tsUaPm0QmPt8A
Type of crit wanted: Mostly videos but also if my channel needs anything, I'm definitely open to criticism.
Any specific issues you want help on: Where to even start? I'm not even really sure there's any kind of audience for what I'm putting out there, but I know that I can improve. Basically, I record myself doing art (usually while streaming on Twitch), then shorten the video down to about 10 minutes (is that too long?) and upload it to YouTube. Is that a thing? Do I need to add some voiceover or something? I'm not sure what I'd even talk about for 10 minutes. Maybe edit the videos into highlights and talk over that? I really kind of don't know what I'm doing, but I'm eager to learn!

Also, as I mentioned, I stream my art on Twitch (http://twitch.tv/phylodox), but most of my streams are just me doing art with a royalty-free Spotify playlist in the background. Do I need to buy myself a decent microphone and start just...talking while I'm making art?

Anyways, I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks!

Are these all original characters that you’re drawing? I think getting people interested in them when they don’t know who Dillran is or why they should care is your biggest challenge right now.

Consider looking at somebody like Boylei hobby time, who does a lot of arts and diorama projects that are either one-off ideas or his own thing, with the occasional build that is heavily inspired by a popular property if not outright an explicit fan-work (ie his Khazad-Dum Balrog vs Gandalf build is literally just the scene from the book/movie, but he never explicitly comes out and advertises it as such).

His thumbnails/video pitches benefit from having really strong concepts in his bespoke stuff and being just recognizable/compelling enough to fans without being outright “Learn To Model Gandalf!!1!!1” when they’re based on a media property.

In your position I might consider leaning more into

1) narrative. Draw your characters in interesting situations that you can build a title around (“They Thought This Dungeon Was Safe!”) and/or flesh them out more.

Don’t just draw a portrait of Dillran, maybe explain a bit about who he is, what his backstory and personality are. Maybe draw him a few different ways and in different scenarios. Resting, at his job, in combat, smiling, upset, etc.

Consider shifting the focus so that there’s more character-building instead of simply illustration.

Or draw a series of panels and craft a fun narrative over them while still retaining the technical advice.

2) the utility to your audience. Is Dillran a TTRPG character? A Baldurs Gate OC? Is he somebody’s fantasy book character or comic character? Could he be all four? Etc. Frame your presentation accordingly.

This ties into point 1. Instead of just one drawing, make a character bible or D&D character sheet.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jan 3, 2024

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Phylodox posted:

This is good advice, and I think it kind of zeroes in on a major flaw in my whole channel. The characters I've drawn (so far, there are videos with fan art of popular characters in the pipeline) are original...but they're not mine. My process has been to browse the r/characterdrawing subreddit, grab a character concept I found kind of interesting, record myself making art of that character, and then upload the video. I've been thinking of these as, like, process videos with a minimal focus on the characters because, for the most part, there's not a lot to go on for the characters other than, like, a mood board and a vague description. Dillran in particular was someone going "This is my character, he's a purple tiefling" and I had to take that and run with it. I guess I've been assuming people would be tuning in to see the process of making art, and if that's the case then I guess I should have the thumbnails focus on that rather than the characters?

1) Youtube is entertainment first and foremost. Any educational component or value to your work must exist in the context that videos that aren't entertaining or compelling in some way are not attractive/retentive to people on a platform that prioritizes selling ads, etc.

2) This is true for all video education. A good but dry and boring professor or teacher can make it work in a classroom/1-on-1/in person/etc setting but that goes completely out the window online. There are lots of people doing art, teaching art, and demonstrating art at a very high level and being funny/interesting/compelling to watch on YouTube, so people will naturally go there instead of suffering through something boring.

You don't have to be Drawfee or Jazza, just having a nice scripted (or maybe unscripted if you're good doing commentary) narration/exposition/commentary and some solid music (the music you're using is really nice, some of it is a bit downtempo and/or generic for the subject matter IMO. Maybe lower music and more voice narration to keep ppl engaged). I think Boylei's style is really good for this.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jan 3, 2024

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
https://youtu.be/JvtQwc1CTvQ?si=8OhY7lJ6jzoPA70r

Second Thought JT made a nifty basics video, maybe this helps somebody

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Trabant posted:

:neckbeard: Looking forward to it!

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In my own YT attempts, I tried something a bit different with this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iShOw24qXic

(I know that my thumbnail game is garbage, trying to come up with a better one)

Different thing 1: start with the full reveal, then back up and talk about the inspiration behind the project. This came about as I just didn't feel that the first edit was... well, interesting. There are so. many. videos of the "cut wood, shape wood" nature that I didn't think me making one just like it added anything new. Instead I made sure to talk about the inspiration behind the object, as well as the channels which taught me how to do this.

Different thing 2: I wanted to see what (if any) traffic it gets with next to no attempts at promotion. Next, I'm giving the woodworking / crafting subreddits a shot (without running afoul of the self-promo rules). It's going to be interesting seeing whether any of that has an impact.

I did, however, get a nice comment from an O.G. YouTube woodturner -- whom I linked in the description as an inspiration, among others -- and that was very satisfying :)

Nice job! I’d let people know in the title that it’s a wood-turning project.

Wood-Turning an Alhambra-Style Vase, etc.

I like your thumbnail, but maybe you could show some kind of progression between the initial block form and the final product. Maybe a before/after. I’m not rly wedded to this suggestion regarding the thumbnail, but I definitely think you should refine the title a little bit.

I initially expected a nice and technically competent but relatively run-of-the-mill pottery project, lol, and the revelation that it was going to be wood was a pleasant surprise that made the whole thing more interesting to me, and that I may have otherwise missed and skipped over if it weren’t posted here and I was just browsing YouTube.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jan 27, 2024

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Don’t do it over discord or zoom. Use OBS or something similar to do a group stream.

Zoom/discord/FaceTime/etc is fine for an interviewee to use or guest spot but it’s absolutely unacceptable for cohosts of the broadcast.

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Feb 13, 2024

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

EL BROMANCE posted:

I still laugh that I used to upload my stuff to Vimeo because of better quality and longer runtimes, and some dude grabbed one of them and cleaned up the audio some and then got a few hundred thousand views on YT. He credited the source at least, and he can’t monetize it because it’s copyright flagged for sure, but had to laugh.

platformowned

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

7seven7 posted:

Got a new thing ready to go. It's a fairly wanky thing about grief tied into gaming. It's a way slower tempo than anything I've tried before and I'm really struggling with the thumbnail, Here's what I've got so far if anyone fancies weighing in:





I think they're OK at conveying the message but I'm worried they're not serious enough. If someone comes in expecting something funny based on the thumbnail they're gonna click away in two seconds as soon as they see the visuals. Or am I wrong and I should just go with the most eye grabbing thing regardless of a tone mismatch?

EDIT: The video in question -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsPaC24A7Hc

BRB gonna make a video essay comparing the Yakuza series to Dostoevsky’s The Idiot

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

7seven7 posted:

Dang - is it too poncey? I tried to be self aware and keep the language plain. Sorry if it's super cringe.

no lol not at all. I was half being facetious in a general “video essays, amirite” kind of way, but half being semi-serious after one of your comments in the video about Ichiban being an unrelenting fountain of optimism and selflessness and goodness in the face of constant abuse and hardship and skullduggery from others made me legit think of Prince Mishkin

I was worried you might take it as too insulting of a comment, but I’m only ribbing you a little bit. It’s a great essay, although I will say that I don’t think that any of the thumbnail images you posted really fit with the subject matter appropriately.

I get using the image of the crucifix to convey spirituality, but maybe something more in keeping with the topic of grief might be more appropriate.

Maybe even consider just doing text in the thumbnail, given the seriousness of the subject matter. Like a black background with a center fade to white or gray with text

Processing grief through games

Or if you want a funnier option, “Press X to pay respects”

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Mar 30, 2024

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Not to give you notes, but you could probably expand the scope of the essay quite a bit if you wanted to further contrast games as escapism vs games as meditation by talking about games that explicitly deal with the concept, and particularly with regards to your thesis/focus of being in a state of anticipatory grief where you’re expecting somebody to pass in the near to immediate future. That Dragon, Cancer comes to mind.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Try just changing the thumbnail first.

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

7seven7 posted:

I've changed the thumbnail twice now and each time the views haven't budged. It only got about a hundred views, so maybe that's just too small a number to move the needle? I notice other people in the thread mentioning it helps, but for every single one of my videos, the views they get in the first week are the views they settle on whether I switch out the thumbnail or not. I've recently changed a bunch of thumbnails just to test it again and yeah - not a single new view :shrug:

Here’s an, I would say, related video from a small channel that was extremely successful in the past month and was recommended to me today. IDK if this helps you in any way but maybe seeing somebody else’s approach to the subject matter gives you some clarity on what to do next.

I do think your title could be a bit more specific “Finding solace” can relate to a lot of different things, people seek and find solace from stress, frustration, and a lot of other different pressures. Your video is specifically about grief and the title should probably reflect that.

(Content warning: discussions of suicide and grief of an extremely personal nature. I disabled the embed because it’s a really heavy subject matter.)

https://youtu.be/ddITF6uuFQI?si=nuVNnVnU4hY8fPbk

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Apr 7, 2024

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