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Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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the only thing that would've let endwalker be better is if i could give half the scions a big hug because by god do some of them need it

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Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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tbh i hope they put the pizza emote on the mogstation eventually because living in a city with no grubhub sucks for campaigns like this :sigh:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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Rynoto posted:

Tataru as a mafia don breaking kneecaps and running shady businesses.

that's kan-e-senna's job, you can't deprive her of her greatest joy in life :colbert:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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god these nouliths are so loving stupid and i love them

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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Xun posted:

Yeah and Y'shtola has a Y in her name, does that mean shes looking for a harem to join? :v:

you realize that the letter just denotes what tribe the Sun Miqo originate from, right? Nice attempt at an own though

also i think everyone's disregarding the fact that a tia can become a nunh at any time due to societal rules. it is cultural, it is not biological stop making this loving weird!!!!!!

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/beefyidiot/status/1477674109655863299?s=20

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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CJ posted:

Am i weird for not wanting my character to transform into a completely different person half way through the story? Giving up all attachment to your character doesn't seem like a satisfactory solution to me.

nah, this is why when i switched to hrothgar i also did a name change, because they were functionally different characters to me and I would've felt weird not doing so.

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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kitten emergency posted:

oh my god the sage weapon from the 83 dungeon is amazing, it’s 4 floating mini gun turrets??

yeah, it owns

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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ok but can hrothgar wear the clown facepaint and nose. this is important :colbert:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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wow i cant read

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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Oxyclean posted:

SCH's icon is literally a pair of glasses.

:psyduck: what

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/Sieghorse/status/1485221793958752257?t=ivlV_w4KzQ3mZ2coKXEXrw&s=19

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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ton of plots opened up on my world seemingly out of nowhere, guessing it's because of the huge move to the new data center, but might be worth checking out since I imagine my world isn't exclusive to that lol

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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The man called M posted:

Was going to ask this in the new players thread, but I think it’s better suited here.
How does Thancred work in Endwalker? Used to be, no Ryne, no full abilities.

anyone capable of manipulating aether can infuse the cartridges and iirc it was just that Ryne was really good at doing it on the fly from practice, you see at the end of 5.3 that Y'shtola is already producing ammo for him when they get their First duds on the Source

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/eldthurs/status/1473152306216529924?s=20&t=1kLemgdLEW4MRIAPE_ImoA

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/CofyBiscuit/status/1494870046581014529?s=20&t=1kLemgdLEW4MRIAPE_ImoA

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Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/cosmodynes/status/1494868931437334528?s=20&t=1kLemgdLEW4MRIAPE_ImoA

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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begging and praying on my knees that the item cap raise means housing item caps might also raise...... :smith:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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please cure Hrothgar's scoliosis tyvm

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/Helios748/status/1498465739862274049?s=20&t=dobjXsy-rJi4bTAvDwZvTg

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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add a hrothgar character to the scions/new adventuring party/whatever so we can actually have a hrothgar character that isnt either tied to optional content (bozja, gunbreaker job questline, role quests) or locked to being on the first already :colbert:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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I mean, same, I just want another one :v:

that way there can be two of them

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/ChiliFarmer_/status/1504447205889003521?s=20&t=EoCRbfUctIrwNgMbfFJlXg

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/lamentorum/status/1504557375281324035?s=20&t=ZRZd8FaBfQUlf_Z7tmqtxw

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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CJ posted:

If people are getting upset over making that obscure of an NPC pretty, they should make a mod called "Make Tataru Pretty". Just turn her into a Hyur with one of those mods that give women ridiculous proportions and observe the results.

she is literally the main character for the questline for one of the new jobs added in endwalker that's about as unobscure as you can get without them being MSQ-tied my dude

i know you don't like reading things (like job questlines) but maybe reading the discussion going on in the thread before giving your take would help a little lol

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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6.1 is the expansion where all Hrothgar lose their ears

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/Pantone272/status/1509869080462999552?s=20&t=5bL45ZTpby_lWIpjAmjRwA

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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im just pissed if the only good hairstyle is one you have to buy on mogstation to even use (as well as a fantasia to switch to it), like, cmon :argh:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/snackoon/status/1510013342416613377?s=20&t=8ObLjyRrjyLr0igYZb9CFA

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Jan 24, 2021

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well....guess we have an answer for why no ears :smith:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/feyhound/status/1511141772348440579?s=20&t=PgUuEX_mc89f9pSz8BBvtQ

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Jan 24, 2021

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Electric Phantasm posted:

Started up the Namazu tribe quest and the level of contempt this game has for these guys is incredible.

:namazu:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/KateacIysm/status/1512506639173173250?s=20&t=aLgoj9KoUkg_8-RBL8LS5A

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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yeah, its mostly frustrating because of how opaque they've been on all levels when it comes to hrothgar, just for them to go 'surprise we glued the viera hairstyles onto hrothgar at the cost of their ears, hope you enjoy'- i'd honestly rather them just come out and say 'yes you still have to use fantasia' because at least then we'd HAVE AN ANSWER :argh:

also even more new viera hairstyles being literally right after the hrothgar thing is just salt in the wound :v:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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it's a weird situation because hairstyles and faces are not actually tied in the code itself, using something like cmtool reveals you can combine any face with any hair without any issue whatsoever (from what i've heard, anyway, i dont use third party stuff myself even if it's a tool and not a mod); the fantasia requirement to change hairstyles honestly didn't need to exist altogether, it'd just mean some hairstyles maybe don't look that great on one hroth species or another, not the end of the world.

Where things get weird are the ears, which are baked into the head models rather than being separate like viera and miqo. if you examine the model by itself it's obviously just. there:



it probably was meant to save time initially since they were co-developing alongside viera, but it absolutely was a bad move in the long run. similar to how hair can be hidden in parts for specific hats/headgear, it's possible for a head model to do something similar for ears if they're hidden by specific hats/headgear.

...except for hrothgar. hrothgar heads AND hairstyles don't have the coded traits that allow for that kind of thing in any capacity, which is probably the biggest contributor to why no hats/headgear in a broad sense. easier to do specific coding for specific pieces as a stopgap until it can be addressed properly. what this also means though is that SE hasn't really done anything involving hair models to give them headgear compatibility and instead chose to work on the head models, which in turn means that the ears are hidden now as they seemingly have been detached from the head models with the new hairstyle. ...the new hairstyles being what they are is a whole other can of worms, but it at least explains mechanically why 'oops no ears' seems to be happening :v: viera meanwhile haven't had any issues like this because their ears are a separate model altogether (and miqo's ears are baked into their hair models to begin with), so viera ears can just be paired with any hairstyle without much issue.

ultimately it's just one of a handful of things that reveal just how half-baked hrothgar implementation actually was and at this point it's probably a matter of playing catch up, but I honestly think it would've gone over better if they'd just said 'we're pushing back hairstyles because we're focusing on decoupling ears from the head model which was the big deterrent for developing new hairstyles' instead of...what felt like a weird april fools joke lol

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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CJ posted:

Do the Hrothgar heads have different proportions meaning that the hair has to be custom made for each head? Or are they reused between heads?

they are MOSTLY the same proportions, but yes, they're not exact, which is why some headgear that looks fine on the bigger heads looks awful on the coeurl (or vice versa)

a notable example would be the skallic tank headpiece, the jawline stuff looks fine on the bigger cat species but doesn't work for me because there's a gap between the metal and the actual jaw :v:

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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:negative: well, yoshi-p took a moment to actually acknowledge the poo poo with hrothgar..... which basically confirmed the stuff i posted about a few days ago about how the ears are part of the head model.

https://twitter.com/GaroZulanFFXIV/status/1513550890514657286?t=HsWatw1QfL0wEvrHJklqsQ&s=19

it's both incredibly frustrating to have them basically go 'oops we coded ourselves into a corner and do not want to have to do the work to undo that' but like...for starters, his statement about how hrothgars were originally never going to get any more hairstyles is actually straight up provably false, people've already pulled up past live letters where he explicitly said that new hair for hrothgar/viera were coming but had to take a little longer... multiple times... over the span of THREE YEARS. it's just baffling that he seems confused as to why people are upset the ears are gone, as if there wouldn't be a similar backlash/upset if it happened to viera or miqo lol (and from what ive been seeing a lot of viera players are also starting to join in the feedback because of how obvious it is the only reason they aren't in the exact same boat is bc more people would riot)

also 'this will cause the frequency of additions to drop' despite hrothgar literally getting nothing new since 5.0 :v: how can the frequency drop if literally nothing has come in the first place lol

Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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https://twitter.com/roefizzlebeef/status/1513651772581154826?s=20&t=Dri-d9r0CHKhVtN2rSHNuA

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Mix.
Jan 24, 2021

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there's thordan crafted weapons for dancer, gunbreaker, reaper, and sage now and they look dope as hell:

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