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Good Sphere
Jun 16, 2018

Where's the tubes tag? Did I just miss it?

Anyways, what do you think of YouTube getting rid of the dislike count? Has it negatively impacted your life? Just as I expected, when I look up a tutorial or a how-to, there's no way for me to prejudge if it's worth watching or not. IT'S RUINED MY LIFE.

Since I'm very addicted and rely on YouTube a lot, it has been a tremendous downgrade to have the dislike count removed. Now I have to waste my time watching the video instead of having a general consensus of its quality.

YouTube's reasoning for this, explained by Matt Koval, is because of a supposed issue with collective trolling that sabotages channels with rampant dislikes. Are we supposed to believe this explanation, and see that it's such a problem that they must remove the dislike count, and disregard the utility it serves for letting us know if a video is uninformative or pure clickbait? I quite frankly think this is bullshit! Boycott YouTube!!!!! **still wastes hours a day watching videos about Sega Genesis history on YouTube**



^^When the dislike counter was still working, and it ironically shows the video was indeed very disliked.

I've been speaking to Matt, and he seems to wholeheartedly agree with YouTube's reasoning. My theory is YouTube is doing it because the algorithm told them so. Meaning, less people avoiding watching videos that appear to be bad based on dislikes = more people watching ads = more money.

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NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
It's a bad move OP. Internet celebrities need to have their self esteem torn down on a regular basis.

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
It's so big companies don't have their fee fees hurt because they want to sell nfts.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
YouTube already gets $10 a month from me because they correctly guessed that i'd pony up that amount to avoid the hell that is advertising (and even then there's still in-video ads that talk about skillshare/raid shadow legends.

Charles Bukowski posted:

It's so big companies don't have their fee fees hurt because they want to sell nfts.
is it? I can kinda see it but i've learned to distrust anything a tech company says about anything so i'm of the mind its done to get me to watch more vids but now im less willing to spend time on a video that im unsure of because of the like ratio being gone.

ante
Apr 9, 2005

SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS
I dislike it op

Slam Pajamas
May 21, 2007
ALL TEXT TITLE ALL-STARS
It ruined the rating count in the Futurama Neutropia videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfsl8_o4VKc

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008

buglord posted:

YouTube already gets $10 a month from me because they correctly guessed that i'd pony up that amount to avoid the hell that is advertising (and even then there's still in-video ads that talk about skillshare/raid shadow legends.

You just made me feel really good about never giving them ten dollars.

Good Sphere
Jun 16, 2018

reignofevil posted:

You just made me feel really good about never giving them ten dollars.

YouTube's decision made me feel really good about using an ad-blocker. Also, hearing so much about how I could save on car insurance with PROGRESSIVE over and over again, has been abusive to my wellbeing.

Aishlinn
Mar 31, 2011

This might hurt a bit..


WhyZodiac
Oct 29, 2015

Ramrod XTreme
I have never clicked a like or dislike button in my life and I am currently doing a song on this very topic that I will be spamming on here in January.

The only time I have ever seen likes/dislikes mentioned is when people use it for lovely talking points or political points scoring such as YouTube Rewind or Biden videos early in his presidency.

In short, the fact I am replying to this topic only emphasises that I have wasted my life.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
When you engage with social media then you lose. This provides one less vector for people to lose and so it is a good thing.

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
Now when I see a video with 50 likes I can't tell if it's wildly hated or just not well known but the thing I realized since they removed it is I don't actually give a poo poo about the user metrics of a video.

They could probably just replace it with a button that says "engagement", scrap the numbers entirely

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





buglord posted:

YouTube already gets $10 a month from me because they correctly guessed that i'd pony up that amount to avoid the hell that is advertising (and even then there's still in-video ads that talk about skillshare/raid shadow legends.

is it? I can kinda see it but i've learned to distrust anything a tech company says about anything so i'm of the mind its done to get me to watch more vids but now im less willing to spend time on a video that im unsure of because of the like ratio being gone.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad on youtube. Do ad blockers not work for you?

WhyZodiac
Oct 29, 2015

Ramrod XTreme

Sophy Wackles posted:

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad on youtube. Do ad blockers not work for you?

Depends on how you view it.

I use the app on TV and get ads about 50% of the time (this feels like it is increasing daily), on a firestick it feels like 100%

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

It's a bad move OP. Internet celebrities need to have their self esteem torn down on a regular basis.

But the uploader still can see the dislikes. It’s just everyone else that can’t. Their self esteem is thankfully still being destroyed

Good Sphere
Jun 16, 2018

WhyZodiac posted:

In short, the fact I am replying to this topic only emphasises that I have wasted my life.

I don't believe that's true, because I know what your avatar is from.

RIP Run Wrake. FSOL forever.

WhyZodiac
Oct 29, 2015

Ramrod XTreme

Good Sphere posted:

I don't believe that's true, because I know what your avatar is from.

RIP Run Wrake. FSOL forever.

My avatar was chosen by user called signalnoise, so you have only emphasised how I have wasted my life.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Sophy Wackles posted:

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad on youtube. Do ad blockers not work for you?

I listen to a lot of YouTube on my iPhone when doing chores or driving or stuff. I get there’s some workarounds like using the browser or whatever but also with this membership comes YouTube Music which has been my Spotify replacement.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost
Well it appears I have no choice but to like it, OP.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

There's a browser plug in you can use to get it back, google it.

crazy eyes mustafa
Nov 30, 2014

WhyZodiac posted:

YouTube Rewind

ARTIFICIAL AMATEURS OUGHTA BE AMAZING
:suicide:

Good Sphere
Jun 16, 2018

Caesar Saladin posted:

There's a browser plug in you can use to get it back, google it.

Yeah, but it's not the same. I want everyone to have it. I feel like it should be back for justice's sake.

Gresh
Jan 12, 2019


this was done to protect certain brands and corporate propaganda, not to protect interweb celeb fee fees

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

The worst thing is the practical aspect, like when I look up a guy teaching a guitar song the lessons vary in quality so much that I want to easily see if its actually useful to watch or not.

Bula Vinaka
Oct 21, 2020

beach side

Caesar Saladin posted:

There's a browser plug in you can use to get it back, google it.

here it is

https://returnyoutubedislike.com

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





Gresh posted:

this was done to protect certain brands and corporate propaganda, not to protect interweb celeb fee fees

Google is an immensely lovely company.

Item Getter
Dec 14, 2015
I mostly only ever use Youtube to listen to music but there were always guaranteed to be "What?? 2 dislikes on this song/album? THOSE PHILISTINES!!!" type comments on everything.

Vitruvian Manic
Dec 5, 2021

by Fluffdaddy
This is great news for my vague "questioning history" series that has been downvoted into demonetization by the Rothschilds and their lackeys.

Pladdicus
Aug 13, 2010
it really bummed me out to see dislike spikes whenever any particular channel featured a trans person on any level, so trading that for not being able to brigade blizzard making a mobile diablo game or people who disliked the rewind having to yell about it on twitter rather than click a thumbs down or whatever seems worth it to me.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Vitruvian Manic posted:

This is great news for my vague "questioning history" series that has been downvoted into demonetization by the Rothschilds and their lackeys.

Bad news: dislikes are still registered and I’m sure considered by the algorithm, just not displayed to viewers.

Vitruvian Manic
Dec 5, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

Subjunctive posted:

Bad news: dislikes are still registered and I’m sure considered by the algorithm, just not displayed to viewers.

Sure -- but I feel like the meta-algorithm is on my side, what I like to call the "lighter side of history". So I feel good about the new direction.

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
poo poo needs some sort of passion check either way imo. :thunk:

its all nice on rice
Nov 12, 2006

Sweet, Salty Goodness.



Buglord
Who TF actually clicks the (dis)like buttons?
That precious time could be spent clicking the next youtube video.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Good Sphere posted:

Where's the tubes tag? Did I just miss it?

Anyways, what do you think of YouTube getting rid of the dislike count? Has it negatively impacted your life?

I just dl'd an extension to show the dislike count again and nothing changed.

I don't even care about it I'm just old and don't want changes so I feel comfy seeing the good old ratio bar.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I dislike it but I got no way to show it, oh!

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49
Do I look like I know what a youtoob is?

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

its all nice on rice posted:

Who TF actually clicks the (dis)like buttons?
That precious time could be spent clicking the next youtube video.

Smash that like button ring that bell please please advanced my lovely grift career for me while u listen to this ad for SQUARESPACE SQUARESPACE SQUARESPACE

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

i kinda liked the see the down votes on the moto madness videos because its mostly a shameful selection of videos

when its a pretty good upvote on moto madness its gonna be a good selection of videos

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Tingfinder
Oct 21, 2013
This was obviously done to protect major corporations from backlash from their increasingly anti-consumer practices, and immense greed.

I don't think anyone believes the blatant lie they told to justify this.

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