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I do think it's worth bearing in mind that there are sometimes perfectly legitimate reasons for instinctive vaccine hesitancy, particularly amongst certain demographics. I very much doubt there's anything particularly nefarious happening with the covid shots beyond neoliberalism.txt, but I would be wary of writing off those anxieties as purely the product of stupidity or selfishness. (though they obviously are also factors)
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Also remember that medicine, and public health in particular, often function as structures of state power and coercion, and tend to replicate the class relationships of broader society. Stuff like the Tuskegee experiment is probably one of the more egregious examples here, and while I don't think there's anything like that happening with Covid you can absolutely see why marginalised groups might be reluctant to trust the authorities. It's political as well as medical though, would an undocumented immigrant feel safe engaging with the NHS, for example? OwlFancier posted:I don't think there are legitimate reasons for not getting vaccinated when billions of other people have and are fine, actually. Big Thalidomide '59 energy here, honestly. Obviously the dangers are very low, but they're not nonexistent, especially in the long term. All medical procedures carry risk, they're gambles to some extent even when the alternative is likely far worse. Hell, there's even precedent for vaccines doing harm way back in the 1970s swine flu epidemic. Even if the authorities still claimed the programme was a overall success, you can't blame people for being worried about potentially violent side-effects, especially with a drug that was new-ish biotech and was rushed out very quickly. Ofc we can look at that and say 'yeah there's a lot you can do when you put unlimited resources into it' but other people aren't going to immediately reach that understanding. Better science communication is very important here, and there are also other cool things you could do like providing vaccines to community groups and offering the opportunity for paperwork-free shots. That said I do pretty much agree that most people refusing the vaccine today are doing so for ideological reasons. Nonetheless I really don't think sneery dismissiveness is the right angle here, if anything it's counterproductive because it's easy for your conspiracist weirdoes to legitimise their grievances by playing the victim to their impressionable audiences.
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Borrovan posted:Is this actually true though? You might be right actually, it was an instinctive feeling but now I think about it there's a decent chance I've just been hoodwinked by a loud minority. I'm sure there'll be actual studies in the works breaking this all down. Unfortunately the loud minority, as we're seeing everywhere, really does drum up hostility towards people with perfectly legitimate concerns. E: 100% agree with your general point though ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Jan 6, 2022 |
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Lord of the Llamas posted:https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jan/06/dining-across-the-divide-i-thought-she-was-going-to-be-an-over-the-top-liberal 'James is adamant that nothing amusing or unusual has ever happened to him' Sounds like a right laugh
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Lower Decks is really good, would definitely recommend. Way better than Discovery, which is fun in places but really suffers from a need to be super cinematic at all times and have tons of big set piece action scenes. Nobody is going into Star Trek wanting more cool explosions. Some of the best episodes of TNG involved basically nothing happening but Data looking after a cat while Troi and Crusher moaned about men over ice cream sundaes and Picard had a wild time with a haunted alien flute.stev posted:They both sound like insufferable cunts tbf. Hope they end up together. The woman sounds vaguely Lexity at least, so maybe she at least means well. Julio Cruz posted:what kind of actual sociopath puts their own face on gifts they give to people Bare minimum info to avoid doxxing but I once knew of a guy who, at the end of a semester's teaching, brought in framed, signed photographs of himself as gifts for his entire class. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jan 6, 2022 |
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Gruffalo Soldier posted:Teacher or student? Not sure which would be worse. Teacher lmao
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Gort posted:The COVID numbers over the last three days have been loving awful. Two or three hundred dead a day (when it was averaging about a hundred before Christmas) and the number of infected is worse than it has ever been I don't want to get on my usual bullshit about pandemic stuff here because it's obviously not appreciated by a lot of the people ITT and we all just end up pissing each other off. But I will make one brief exception here, just because someone might find some small comfort in it, and say please, please, please look a bit more deeply into the figures before preparing for the apocalypse. Yes, the cases numbers seem terrifying, but if you look at deaths we're still on a tiny fraction of what we were last year. 100-200/day is obviously lovely, but we were getting on for 1500/day last January. Hospitalisations are also only about half of what they were then, and it looks like people getting admitted aren't usually as critical - we have about 1/4 the number of people on ventilators as we did over the last peak. And it does look like this will peak soon. Cases in London, which was the hotspot, are already levelling off (even if they're not dropping as quickly as Twisto hoped they might). The rest of the country will do the same sooner or later. I totally understand why people are anxious, but there genuinely are silver linings in the data we can cling to for a bit of hope. Everyone should do whatever they need to do for their own mental health, but it always seems darkest before the dawn and all that. e: fb ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jan 7, 2022 |
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Maajid Nawaz has been chucked off LBC lol. https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1479083070993141762?s=19 Actual full on conspiracy theorist poo poo. Guy's an rear end but seems a strange decision given the rest of the weirdo reactionaries they platform. Funny seeing all the centrists who loved the guy and acclaimed him as a 'moderate' when he was bashing Corbyn apparently amazed that he is, in fact, a poo poo.
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I've never smoked but I did try some of those nicotine pouches and oh man those things hit you like a ton of bricks, they're incredible. I could never have cocaine, that would be me
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Gonna That's one of the most brutal ratios I've ever seen
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this tweet not because of the usual reason people call things not mind safe but because it represents a level of Rowling derangement so severe it actually caused a mental disturbance akin to a giant hit of salvia:
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Marmaduke! posted:An oven ready blockchain, no less 'Oven ready, just pop it in the microwave' weirdly, of everything he ever said, is the one thing that really, really hosed me off for some reason
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Wait is John Lewis not posh, you can spend thousands on one seat in that place
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Very glad I'm not the only one to get mad at this https://twitter.com/christapeterso/status/1479976288240685056?s=19
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Oh yeah I'm being completely irrational but it still annoys me for some reason I can't quite place
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I've been trying to wind people up by calling a negative LFT result "neggers" Be very careful saying this in public!
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Can't wait for absolutely nothing to come of any of this lol
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Oh no Cool wet grass
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I just hope if we do get a new left party we give it a decent name, all these 'love and fairness and honesty party' type names make me cringe into the earth.
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keep punching joe posted:lmao forgot about RISE, what a fine example of massive galaxy brain egos squandering all of the genuine momentum of the radical independence campaign. The RIC was very cool and imho pre-empted much of the same energy in Scotland Corbynism did in the UK as a whole. RISE could I think have been a decent party and some of the people involved (e.g. Cat Boyd) were on paper pretty cool. Unfortunately I get the impression the org as a whole was dominated by the most obnoxious kind of middle class book group lefties. A friend of a friend was big into them and certainly fit the bill - zero sense of humour, sent us all to sleep by waffling on about Gramsci in the pub when we just wanted to drink pints and talk poo poo, extreme holier than thou energy. My partner was involved with some other left-wing groups at the time and apparently RISE were burning bridges left and right by essentially adopting the SWP playbook and trying to make every drat event about them + trying to insist they had some right to overall leadership of the whole pro-indy socialist scene. The whole thing reeked of a bunch of people seeing Syriza and trying to cargo-cult the aesthetics of that without even remotely taking the time to adapt their strategy or even consider what had been successful in Greece and why. It's a shame, there was a lot of energy in the RIC and it could have gone places.
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The Guardian liberal-centrist brigade like to think of themselves as sensible and progressive but they were never going to support Corbyn and will never support any new socialist party, which is exactly why they had to turn him into a monster. There is zero point trying to win them around. But that doesn't really matter as much as some seem to think. It's kinda received wisdom in some circles now that support for Corbyn mostly stemmed from some out of touch, middle class, woke idealist constituency made up mostly of condescending students who'd never done a day's work in their life doing jazz hands from their ivory towers, but that's a total invention of the centrist imagination. A huge amount of support for Corbyn came from formerly alienated Labour voters and other generally disengaged groups, many of them very much working class.* These are the people a new party needs to win around, and also the ones it really does have a chance at speaking to with patience and good strategy. * I liked Joe Kennedy's Authentocrats on this topic. In the media's view the 'working class' are a bunch of reactionary fuckwits who like a pint and the footy and want to bring back hanging and have no time for any of this namby-pamby woke nonsense, but this fails completely to acknowledge that most of the people who cultivate that cliche flat-cap aesthetic do so purely to lend some kind of folk-legitimacy to their awful views, and are in any case usually relatively well-off small business owners or sole tradesmen. The vast majority of Britain's working class in 202 I'd really recommend reading the full book.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Apropos of 'lit' I had a look at that Tweetman lit thing - no posts since May last year. Seems to have withered on the vine. Weetman is a tragic character who genuinely thought she was going to be rewarded for her staunch anti-corbyn stance with a nice comfy spot as a centrist columnist. Only all the blue ticks she courted left her to twist in the wind the second she wasn't useful to them, because of course they did. Afaict she is now just playing to a gallery of thirsty centrist dads, at least half of whom are bots. Looks like she's going hard down the JK did nothing wrong TERF avenue too, probably in a desperate attempt to remain relevant. It all feels quite depressing and I almost feel bad for her, knowing you'd been played that badly must be humiliating.
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Guavanaut posted:I don't give a poo poo about Johnson's lovely parties either, I'd rather they put some proper public health measures in place back in February and then spent the subsequent year licking doorknobs and spitting in one anothers' mouths. Yeah pretty much, but otoh effective public health measures would involve making money available to poor people, so lol no. Honestly the idea that anyone is genuinely shocked at the party is totally wild to me, who actually genuinely believed boris loving johnson was going to pass up the chance to get pissed and sexually assault some poor intern over the holidays, the man has clearly had his fingers crossed behind his back for his entire term as PM and doesn't even try to hide how hilarious he finds it.
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Do the US courts have any power to force him to appear though? Even if he's convicted in absentia can he be extradited? I hope to be proven wrong but I can't see a member of the royal family being subject to the same rules as the rest of us and I can well imagine even with the formal title of Prince Nonce, it could probably amount to little more than 'he's not allowed to go back to the US any more, but but he'll face no real justice'. A bit of a Polanski situation.
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I'd have a lot more time for the Labour party if the SCG, Momentum, or even the left-membership had shown any willingness whatsoever to play dirty and take the fight to the right of the party. You can talk about the importance of internal democracy and debate and comradely disagreement all you like, but showing unlimited good faith and arguing earnestly with the wing that nakedly detests you and will never show the same courtesy just makes you a mug. After the second or third time a whole bunch of the PLP briefed against Corbyn, he'd have been far better off granting their wish by going full Turbo Stalin on them than trying to, once again, meet them half way. Same goes for the press, he was far too defensive and passive. It just seemed naïve, and any leader who falls into the same trap will be monstered just as badly. One who didn't would still be monstered, mind, but if they came out swinging they'd have a far better chance of making Labour something worth caring about and even maybe winning an election. This also applies now the left have been sidelined again - their willingness to go back to dutifully backing Starmer while maybe doing a tiny bit of modest heckling from social media just seems really pathetic. e: Something that really frustrates me about the political left in Britain is this need to constantly turn the other cheek, be the better person, set a moral example etc. Absolutely not, that's how you get walked over. Don't be shy, get your hands dirty, it's the only way we'll win. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jan 12, 2022 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:If they wish to charge him, they can submit an extradition request and *in theory* he has no power to disobey it[1] - in practice it'll be interesting to see what kind of shape the courts twist themselves into. At the moment (I believe) it's only a civil matter so extradition doesn't apply, especially as he has legal representation over there. True, but even if it developed into a criminal case and he was found guilty, a formal extradition request was issued, and he had no legal immunity, I'd be interested to see what happened if he just... said no. Somehow I just can't see plod knocking on the front door of one of the Queen's kids and marching them to the airport in handcuffs.
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Honestly I couldn't give a gently caress whether he resigns or not and I don't know why people are getting excited, he's just going to be replaced by another Tory who will do identical poo poo if maybe a little more subtly. e: VV iirc Ruth Davidson has always been opposed to Bojo. Didn't she resign as leader of the Scottish Tories when he became PM because of his history of homophobic poo poo? ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Jan 12, 2022 |
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keep punching joe posted:People like him, they think he's funny, bumbling and charming. That counts come election time. I weirdly think Priti Patel could do well. She's so comically, anime villain evil we just couldn't help ourselves as a country. Lots of people say she'd never get through due to casual racism but I think the extent of her rage against migrants might paper over some of that. The most racist gammons would still be hate-thirsting after her, while the centrist melts would have a grand old time telling us all how progressive and groundbreaking it would be to have another woman - and a brown one at that! - as PM. 2-0 to the Conservatives!
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I find it comforting to think that, for all our doomering about the world being in danger because of politics and climate change and killer viruses etc, it really isn't. We are, but the world will adapt and will get on just as it ever did. New species will evolve and crawl around the crumbling remains of our civilisation, the sun will rise, the waves will crash into the shores, nature will heal, and all of humanity will be a tiny footnote in the history of the earth.
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Barry Foster posted:Go check out the biosphere collapse thread in CSPAM lol You know what, I don't think I will!
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OwlFancier posted:He'd stand no chance against starmer. stick a blue rosette on him and say that
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Just Another Lurker posted:I remember footage of Churchill giving Stalin a sword (a big medieval designed one) and the Man of Iron going wtf!?! while holding it awkwardly, at the Yalta Conference possibly. I just looked this up, it was Tehran apparently. Apparently the Soviet band played both God Save the King and the Internationale, which is some pretty mixed messaging. I think the best state gift was Khrushchev giving Kennedy one of Strelka's puppies at the height of the space race. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jan 12, 2022 |
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Borrovan posted:As with most things in constitutional law, it's all very theoretical & very complicated, basically. Luckily it'll never become important, because no copper will ever try to nick 'er maj. They wouldn't try to nick Brenda, but she is 95 and the heir apparent is far less charming, nowhere near as universally beloved, and has a penchant for testing some of the limits of theoretical royal powers. Might be the question becomes significantly more relevant in the coming years!
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I don't understand flat earth people, what is the motive? Who cares? To what nefarious ends would we be being lied to? Why are you going to such lengths to make this theory a thing despite the mountain of evidence against it? Why is this even a thing? What's the best case endgame? Ok so you proved the world is flat, what of it? How does that make a difference to anything in most people's lives? What are you hoping to achieve? My partner gets a real kick out of flat earthed poo poo but I find it incredibly boring because it feels like the laziest conspiracy theory for the sake of conspiracy theory poo poo, at least QAnoners and 9/11 truthers and, hell, even people saying Avril Lavigne was replaced are trying to say something about systems of power and control and class. forkboy84 posted:Just do what they do in Glasgow, have an entirely convenient but accidental honestly fire. I cannot emphasise enough how hilariously, obviously sus Glasgow is when it comes to property developers getting inexplicably lucky on the back of completely random fires. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Jan 13, 2022 |
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forkboy84 posted:Is this Avril Lavigne thing just millennial "Paul McCartney is dead, see, he's shoeless on Abbey Road album cover!"? It's apparently a whole thing, she apparently died in 2003 and was replaced by a clone called Melissa??? E: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avril_Lavigne_replacement_conspiracy_theory
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