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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

They will never actually have drones follow people or whatever, if anything it'll be just another way to funnel money from the public purse to Tory donor's pockets which then goes back to the Tory party again.

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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Pablo Bluth posted:

Start was the best cereal.

YES, it was. RIP.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Guavanaut posted:

Important tweet if you accidentally clicked on some dumbass hot take merchant and now your youtube recs are full of fash:

https://twitter.com/NightBreeze1079/status/1478505823567503370

other important tweets:


e: Class 17 arriving from Kidderminster


You can delete videos from your youtube watch history and then they won't affect your recommendations anymore:

Go here: https://www.youtube.com/feed/history?hl=en_GB

Click on "Watch and search history" on the right hand menu.

Use the search near the top of that page to find the videos you want to remove.

From those two pages you can also set up auto delete every [x] months, delete all vids from a date range, pause recording of watch history and other stuff that can be very useful.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Szmitten posted:

For my TV needs I just want access to every episode of Time Team so I can watch a third of one every lunchtime. And the means to do so on a Sky box with Netflix and Amazon connected doesn't seem to be there. :(

There was a glorious period where I would go home from work for lunch and it would coincide perfectly with episodes of Fred Dibnah's various shows being on (I think) Beeb 2. Perfect lunchtime viewing.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

i can't find a tennis thread to lol about that twat Djokovic. so lol.

Novax Djokovic.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Lungboy posted:

Novax Djokcovid!

drat that's good. And it was right there.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/troovus/status/1478405323274821643?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.


Yes well *I* took the risk to start a business*** therefore I deserve my riches. People should simply start their own businesses if they want to be wealthy.

***which I was empowered to do with the safety net of my rich parents.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Trying to work out the true value of something in an inherently flawed framework of capitalism is like trying to achieve socialism by using the laws and rules set up within the framework of capitalism.

I realise that's not helpful.


Anyway:

https://twitter.com/BP_Cena/status/1479497971171573762?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

kingturnip posted:

Another reason a craftsperson charges £100 per hour is because they're unlikely to be working full-time and the money they charge has to pay for the time they're not working.

Yeah same for like, wedding photographers.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

If hard work paid then binmen would earn 10x as much as bankers.

I would be OK with this.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/edwardpoole1975/status/1479754193946697729?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Aidan_702 posted:

This was literally the first hint that he was actually from the evil fascist universe

Yeah but you can't think too harshly of him, we are also all from the evil fascist universe.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

"Risk" is relative though isn't it. If your daddy owns an emerald mine there's no risk of you becoming destitute.

Once you've got a certain amount of money you can take a whole load of risks until one pays off.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

He's also massively anti-union though so...

Like he's explicitly on the side of the problems.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/HackedOffHugh/status/1480111092743483393?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Mr Cuddles posted:

That's me. I haven't been on these forums for a long time and wasn't sure if I remembered you correctly. Glad you're alright.

Hello mate. Welcome back!

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

The "Common Sense Party" would immediately be labelled the "Communist Nonsense Party" and fail.

E:Anyway the CUKs failed because of lack of grassroots support. Same for NIP and Breakthrough and whatever other new startup party.

If the unions and the left of the Labour party broke off, the Corbyn years have shown that they could have massive grassroots support, plus tons of funding.

They'd still have a hostile press to contend with, but that's no worse a problem than we're already facing with the status quo.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jan 11, 2022

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

I mean the media still sees/portrays class as being whether you talk properly (the classical British class system) because otherwise they'd have to acknowledge the Marxist conception of class i.e. relation to capital.

It's very very handy for them to be able to dismiss people as "out of touch middle class" or whatever because somebody has read a book.

It's another case of talking at odds about the same concept though. Crops up all the time. Left-wing vs. right-wing populism is another one. Dismiss Trump because he's a populist, but Jeremy Corbyn is also a populist, therefore he's like Trump!

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

ronya posted:

of course it's ukpol so who knows, really

This should be the perennial thread title.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Comrade Fakename posted:

and likely everyone involved would be proscribed and blacklisted from participating in the LP for a long time, if not forever. This means that a lot of the country's finite resource of dedicated activists would now be working on this instead of within the Labour Party, essentially indefinitely.

Yeah but having a problem with is predicated on the current incarnation of the Labour Party achieving anything positive whatsoever, which they seem determined to show us that they will not.

"Wait around for another 30 years and we might have a chance of repeating the Corbyn debacle" is not a compelling reason to keep Labour alive.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jan 11, 2022

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Borrovan posted:

30-something MPs is a voice

Except they're all too craven to speak out against the right wing leadership, suggesting that they're either not as left-wing as all that or don't have a voice to the extent that it matters. Meanwhile Keith's blowing every dogwhistle he can find, smashing the "more cops" button repeatedly, going full-on "work, family, homeland" with his messaging, ignoring outright and open transphobia and islamophobia in the party.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

If the Labour Party disappeared tomorrow the mantle of caretakers while the Tories are forced onto the naughty step will be instantly taken up by the Lib Dems and leftist parties will still be alternately ignored and mocked by the mainstream.

Sure but how is that meaningfully any worse than the current incarnation of the Labour Party?

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

No Dignity posted:

Genuinely, I they are beaten down cowards who are not willing to shoot the hostages in the same way the Right are to do anything which might damage ~~the Party~~, so yes they are a waste of time and space because they will never get in the mud or fight dirty enough to win factional battles even if they were granted another once in a generation left leadership victory (which they're not, that poo poo is going to be locked down tighter than China now)

Yeah. I think Corbyn's suspension is as much about keeping the other lefty Labour MPs in line as it is about Corbyn (well OK, not quite so much, but it's definitely part of it). It's telling the SCG that if you step out of line, we'll find a reason to suspend or expel you.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Comrade Fakename posted:

Labour is now completely dominated by the right (this couldn’t have gone more Luke Akehurst’s way if he planned it)

This is the most correct part of your post.

Comrade Fakename posted:

little money, and likely little grassroots enthusiasm

If the party started with the unions and the SCG breaking away from Labour it could have both money and grassroots support. Certainly moreso than NIP or the Breakthrough party.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Jan 12, 2022

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Comrade Fakename posted:

Yeah, I saw you say this on twitter. This is a pretty ludicrous fantasy. Even assuming the entire SCG split (this won’t happen), would “the unions” follow? The unions are not funding Labour out of a deep-seated commitment to Marxist ideals, they do it to have influence over parliament. They’d fund the Tories if they thought it would work. Also, the unspoken fact about these unions withdrawing funds from Labour is that they also have declining membership and funding and would just like to hold on to their money. On top of all that, removing funds from Labour is a way to get them to move more towards the union’s position, this new party would probably be doing it whether they got the money or not.

But even if, say, Unite came along with the new party (a colossal if), that’s still dramatically less money than Labour receives (and they’re facing bankruptcy). The reason Labour was able to attract so much membership and enthusiasm under Corbyn was that it seemed possible that we could take over the party and then the government, and finally pass the policies we need. A new party with maybe a dozen MPs (more likely only one) will not be able to promise that, explicitly or implicitly. There’s no way that hundreds of thousands of members will sign up for that, and stick around for the many, many years a new party would need to grow and establish itself in whatever the best possible case scenario for it would be.

You're right in some ways, it'll never happen, but neither will achieving socialism through the machinery of the Labour Party. I don't think you get to advocate for that and also throw around terms like "ludicrous fantasy".

Keep giving money to people who hate you I guess.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Feldegast42 posted:

So I haven't followed UK politics since Corbyn got trounced -- what is finally making everyone turn on Boris?

I mean its obvious that the party is just an excuse

Rupert Murdoch, same as always.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

serious gaylord posted:

https://twitter.com/GeorgeAylett/status/1481392816869756928

I would say he wouldn't last the week with this but the days of people resigning in disgrace are long past.

Ah, Starmer must be nearing 20 points ahead then!

https://twitter.com/RuairiWood/status/1481415770705907715?s=20

Oh. Oh no.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Speaking of conspiracy theory poo poo, has anybody seen this?

https://twitter.com/_Jekanyika/status/1481330012125081621?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

keep punching joe posted:

Trip report: just ate four curries, two nans, a vegetable paratha, and pakora. This is me now.



Isn't that like 4000 calories just from the bread?

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

keep punching joe posted:

It was tapas size portions and split with my partner, but still a mighty amount for a wee guy.

Ah fair. There was an "Indian Tapas" place near me when I lived in Milton Keynes. I held off going for ages because the concept seemed ridiculous, but it turned out they made *incredible* food (and it was just served in a sligthly different "style" to usual and they had more in the way of like, dry stuff that were more like nibbles alongside curries and stuff).

E: Well that's a poo poo pagesnipe.

61: The number of parties it will eventually be revealed Boris Johnson has attended during lockdown.

Also, have my cat being cute I guess.

https://twitter.com/WhatEvil/status/1481756289655091205?s=20

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jan 13, 2022

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Prole posted:

I got money on Truss being next Tory leader so let's not slow things down just yet... I need that £150. The only positive outcome would be people realising that the Sensible Centre are useless sack of poo poo and their politics is poison. I'm not holding my breath for that.

Nope. I fear things will need to get much worse before they can get better. It's a sorry state to be in, but as long as we're there to prove our worth when the time comes... We have the answers but the public will need to be ready to finally listen. We got so close in 17. It won't happen over night but I truly believe it will happen. Never through the Labour Party again though. That will never be allowed to happen now.

Cheers. Kind of you. Have a glass of water before you sleep.

I don't have money on it, but if I did it would be on Sunak.

That said I think Gove is/was Murdoch's choice so maybe smart money's on him?

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Aside from everything else it's literally impossible to live in a "leftist echo chamber" without living in some off-the-grid commune somewhere, because you're confronted with the realities of right-wing imperialism and fascist police states and a rabidly right-wing press a million times a day in the rest of your life outside of forums/twitter/wherever. Like you literally can't avoid it. You don't need to "seek out differing opinions" because the cunts are everywhere, highly regarded, and spewing their dipshit opinions into your face in a constant stream of warm vomit.

E: Speaking of fascist police states:

https://twitter.com/lulu_nunn/status/1482396740431003649?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/marykfoy/status/1483214236952182794?s=20

So uh, good luck on the next election, Keith.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

BTW marmite and cheese is a pro-tier combination.

I resisted it for years (despite loving marmite from when I were a nipper) but it really is very good. Especially if you put some marmite and a little butter on a crumpet and then cheese on top and toast it.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

forkboy84 posted:

When you're gurning about those blasted anarchists just not wanting to work with Leninists, yes, the historical context of Marxist-Leninists actions towards anarchists from 1917 until 1991 is relevant my guy.

No we didn't. He was poo poo. We knew from day 1 what Nick Clegg & friends stood for & it was a clear turning back the clock to a viciously uncaring & cruel Gladstonian liberalism. David Davis, Tory shitbag, read it & thought there was a lot to agree with there. And we knew this in 2004 with the publishing of The Orange Book, while Kennedy was still leader & the liberals looked like the only party with a chance of winning in FPTP a decent number of seats who opposed the Iraq War. 2005 was the year to vote Lib Dem, 2010 was just people getting caught up in Clegg's TV appearances.

I need to find a copy of this lovely book, I want to read the chapter by David Laws, "UK health services: a liberal agenda for reform", that'll be a loving hoot.

I mean I think a lot of people ITT (myself included) didn't have the awareness to know what the Orange Book was in 2010 and still viewed the LDs as a more left-wing party than Labour (though, maybe they still were more left-wing than Blairite Labour at the time?). I didn't actually vote for them because I was in the speaker's seat and couldn't. I can't remember if I voted at all (would have been for some independent or lesser party) or if I just sacked it off.

In any case I was shocked that the LDs who I viewed as a left-wing party and somebody I could see myself voting for, sided with the Tories over Labour.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

EvilHawk posted:

FWIW now would be a great time for a by-election for a defector. There's a public opposition to the government, he's jumped a sinking ship, and he gets to say "well I represented you previously but I can't stand behind Boris any more" in what should be a Labour gain seat.

If anything Labour should be pushing for one to show they can beat the Tories again.

Maybe but the Labour party is close to bankruptcy and can't afford to be fighting by-elections.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Rustybear posted:

the old list is really vanilla tbh, is that really the best they've got? a dozen known wrong uns and then a whole lot of 'had sex recently'. imagine not even making the list

i must know what odd things rory is into tho. keep cheese in her pocket? burp the alphabet backwards? what are we working with here

It doesn't have to be anything actually criminal or whatever though does it, it just has to be things that those MPs would find personally embarrassing to get out about them, and also things that *Tory voters* would find to be disgraceful.

So yes, "Had sex with a man wearing women's perfume" would probably get a lot of tutting from your average Tory.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

OwlFancier posted:

Which MP is Troutmask Replica because I think it describes a lot of them.

Gove.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

keep punching joe posted:

Rhona Cameron is a weird one, she's gay and was fairly supportive if the SNP/Independence.

She's also not been on TV since the 90s so that's maybe got something to do with it.

Scanned her Twitter and she doesn't even appear to have gone Terf.

Yeah she's just a has-been I think. She was fairly prominent around 2000 I think? Then just kind of quietly disappeared.

Now I guess she needs money and she's going for the easy right-wing grift.

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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

farcry posted:

https://amp.ft.com/content/67e76ec3-5326-45ba-9c88-11ee0ea27a6e does this or the linked article say what I think it does. Did morrisons buy themselves out for cd&r with that leveraged buyout bullshit? David pots the ceo that saved us from a massive 2bn debt issue just decided to leave the company when he seemed set to stay.

The 2bn debt was bought about by a previous ceo deciding to tripple the amount of stores and build a huge amount of convenience stores. Nearly ended with us going bust just before Christmas multiple years in a row. Now it looks like we paid 6bn to buy ourself. Am I just panicking? Or is it time to say fuckit and take the pay cut to work min wage in any other job in my dead poo poo town I'm stuck in? Sorry If its incoherent rambling I'm stressed and crying I don't have the capacity to mentally deal with all this poo poo working through the pandemic and seeing decade long friends get floored by covid took me past my ability to cope and I'm funking done.

I'm OK. Going to go make dophinaus with brie and bacon and drink a bottle of wine with my partner. Sorry for unloading on you guys . And also not posting more in here been a lurker since the LF days. No need to worry about my health its just venting I know some of the posters here feel deeply with care and compassion.

Was going to delete all this I'm not proofreading it just going to just post. Sorry to anyone that read it.

IDK I'm not a finance guy but I can't see anything in the article that really alarms me in terms of workin gthere? They say that Morissons has been improving in profitability and that they're generally upbeat about stuff.

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