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in a screen session
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Jan 11, 2022 07:52
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started through /home/user/.config/autostart/webserver.desktop
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Jan 11, 2022 07:53
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did you consider just starting a wiki op
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Jan 11, 2022 14:18
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ty for all the suggestions everybody!! a lot of people saying "static html" but, like, you still have to.. write code using a framework so you don't go insane writing raw html by hand. you can just compile it down to static html later and route it however you want. some unfortunately large and complex requirements emerging so I'm pretty resigned to node or asp at this point also i'd love to use something like blitz/next but every step of the way i have lawyers breathing down my neck making me run every single desired package past them and I think it's going to be a huge pain in the rear end
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Jan 11, 2022 16:23
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Tankakern posted:static html served with python -m http.server this is a great way to test ports/firewalls fyi
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Jan 11, 2022 17:07
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if the problem with static HTML is that you have to write it by hand, why not something like Jekyll or Hugo, and just slap it behind nginx?
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surprisingly the answer is rails
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Bored Online posted:surprisingly the answer is rails i mean this really depends on what the question is
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Jan 12, 2022 08:46
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Python that only serves a pure API and use react + typescript on the front. Use bootstrap-react or whatever it's called to minimise the amount of html you need to give a poo poo about.
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abigserve posted:Python that only serves a pure API and use react + typescript on the front. Use bootstrap-react or whatever it's called to minimise the amount of html you need to give a poo poo about. i can’t wait for this trope to die out. unless your app does _a lot_ of business logic on the client side you’re setting yourself up to maintain two stacks & toolchains and a bunch of operational complexity just to show a few forms. rails/.Net core with razor pages will get you done before you’ve npmed all the packages you need to start react. add htmx if you want fancy async updates.
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Jan 12, 2022 09:07
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You can start and package react apps with two commands lmao
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Jan 12, 2022 09:26
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still need to maintain it and context switch between python and typescript
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Jan 12, 2022 09:52
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use lisp, OP
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Jan 12, 2022 10:38
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abigserve posted:You can start and package react apps with two commands lmao well, dont leave us hanging. which two?
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Jan 12, 2022 11:37
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fart simpson posted:well, dont leave us hanging. which two? Create react app and then npm package or export or something I can't remember All I know is that it was good enough for my dumbass back when I was a neteng writing bespoke monitoring tools
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thank you
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Jan 12, 2022 17:01
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Jewel posted:i'm a tools prog for a gamedev company and currently all our web based tooling is either raw hand-written html+js served from a static web service (being phased out which is why we're looking into moving to a proper stack), Insomniac games did the same thing and have shared some great insight about it https://deplinenoise.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/webtoolspostmortem.pdf tl;dr its trash and they rewrote everything in c++/qt
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Jan 12, 2022 17:23
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Zlodo posted:they rewrote everything in c++/qt lol
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abigserve posted:Python that only serves a pure API and use react + typescript on the front. Use bootstrap-react or whatever it's called to minimise the amount of html you need to give a poo poo about. probably reactstrap? nice boilerplate components
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Jan 12, 2022 18:15
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Zlodo posted:Insomniac games did the same thing and have shared some great insight about it man i could have told them this was gonna be the outcome
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Zlodo posted:Insomniac games did the same thing and have shared some great insight about it we're also C++ devs doing web tooling but the difference is it's not big complex game creation tools that artists will be using, it's backend tooling like managing the store or scheduling events, etc. we still have c++ native tooling for the stuff that should be software. i can def see what went very wrong on their end, sounds like hell lol Jewel fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jan 13, 2022 |
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Jan 13, 2022 19:02
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the op manages to be long and still amount to a really ill-posed question.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the op manages to be long and still amount to a really ill-posed question. yeah I didn't want to reveal too much because I feel bad talking about internal things online, didn't have a great grasp on the full range of requirements, AND I'm generally just bad at english  I did get some good insight into people's opinions though, so I'm happy w the responses
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Jan 13, 2022 19:08
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95% of yospos is bad at english but it doesn’t stop them
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Jan 13, 2022 19:17
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Shaggar posted:asp.net
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Zlodo posted:Insomniac games did the same thing and have shared some great insight about it skimmed through this and started laughing irl when it got to the first screenshot of their "web tools" 
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:95% of yospos is bad at programming but it doesn’t stop them
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Jan 14, 2022 05:48
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PHP is cool now. Use a TALL stack. Laravel.. I'm working on a project with it atm and it's not terrible to deal with
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