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For those of you who can't get enough of writing lists, here's the Top Ten Favourite Tag Teams thread!
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This was a very interesting thread to read, thanks for all the work you put into it!
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Jan 30, 2022 11:33
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Great thread, thanks for putting this all together Jerusalem! Love that Bryan’s reclaimed his spot as the absolute best, it’s proof positive that the guy has been held back for years. Can’t wait to see how 2022 shakes out for AmDrag. 
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Jan 30, 2022 16:08
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Thank you, J-Ru, for reminding me that St. Patrick's Penta existed.
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Jan 30, 2022 19:32
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I promise (really promise!) that I'll get up a stats thing sometime in the next week or two, as opposed to six months like last time!SG Bamboo posted:For funsies I picked out my ten from J-Ru's big list and to no great shock it's a hell of a dropoff after Miyu (and Katsu). My favourites should be more popular dammit, especially Hino. I love that big beefy bastard, he's such a hoss This is quite a cool idea! I love that you gave Tenma 10 of her 12 points 
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Jan 31, 2022 00:50
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Lid posted:Insert here a four overlapping circles labelled indie fans, AEW fans, WWE fans and puro fans and at the very centre BRYAN DANIELSON Aw yeah it all came together
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Feb 1, 2022 02:32
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gently caress yeah Dragon
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Far faster than the six month delay for last year's stats, only two weeks later here are relevant/mildly interesting statistics from our latest iteration of our favorite wrestlers thread. These would have been done sooner except that while running through the stats I discovered I had somehow added Akira (the Death Samurai!) to every relevant section of the spreadsheet EXCEPT for the actual final ranking  I fixed that, it didn't actually alter stats much at all since I'd included them in the appropriate promotions/ages section etc, but I have no idea how I missed it.As always, we start with the easy stuff. This year we had 103 Goons post lists of their Top 10 Favorite Active Pro-Wrestlers, significantly up from the 65 in 2020's thread and only a little below the 114 from 2019's. However, in terms of the individual wrestlers selected, this year was the highest ever as 212 wrestlers were listed, topping the 186 from 2020 and the 202 from 2019. Of those 212 wrestlers, 58 were women (57 in 2020, 46 in 2019) and 154 were men (129 in 2020, 157 in 2019) though of course these are broad categories, I've listed according to my best understanding of the gender they identify with. In terms of promotions, 27 promotions were represented along with a broad "Independents" Category which this year I rolled Miscellaneous/unidentified Joshi wrestling into as well, surpassing the 25 (+Independents) promotions listed in 2020.   I was unable to get a complete listing of ages for all of the submitted wrestlers, so the following data is not necessarily accurate:
 So what does this mean? Well, frankly it means that Punch Sport Pagoda loving LOVES Bryan Danielson, to a crazy degree! With 167 points more than his nearest competitor, Danielson lead the pack from the end of Day 1 all the way through the last, and was never close to being beaten. If you took away all of his #1 rankings, he still would have placed third and would have only been 13 points away from 2nd place! If you took away all his #1 AND #2 rankings he would still have placed 5th! Take away his #1, #2 AND #3 rankings and he STILL would have finished 5th! If you have ONLY included his #1 rankings and nothing else, he would have.... still finished 5th! Hell, if you had ONLY counted his #2 rankings and nothing else he would have placed equal 9th with Kris Statlander! In fact even if you only counted his #3 rankings and NOTHING else he still would have been in the Top 20 and placed 19th! He does even better lower down, you could ONLY count his #4 rankings and he ranks as high as 15th! Take out ALL his #1 - #4 rankings and he's still in the Top 20, with a 17th equal placing with Orange Cassidy! As noted, Danielson scored more points than ANYBODY ever has in any iteration of this thread, INCLUDING the Top Ten Favorite Wrestlers of ALL time posted way back in 2007! 2007: Ric Flair - 492 Points 2019: Kazuchika Okada - 505 Points 2020: Hangman Adam Page - 292 Points 2021: Bryan Danielson - 558 Points Yes, Danielson obliterates all of them, the closest to his points totals aren't even all that close and Ric Flair is widely considered by many one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time (regardless of a shitload of issues) and Kazuchika Okada is of course a living God who graces our realm with his divine presence. Danielson spent a long time in WWE and somehow seemed like just largely just another guy, once great but probably a little past it and just biding his time for a comfortable retirment... and then he returned to ACTUAL professional wrestling and it was like he never left. There is NOBODY, no wrestler, past or present that has ever gotten anything close to the love that Bryan Danielson engenders from Punch Sport Pagoda. He is it, this subforum's favorite pro-wrestler, even when other voted favorites are taken into account. It was an incredible result, and an incredible achievement, by an incredible wrestler. But of course there were plenty of other wrestlers who got listed too, 211 more in fact! For anybody insane enough to be interested in the math, here is a complete ranked listing of every vote made. Thank God for Excel and automated counting:  While the point of the thread was to see who our favorites for 2021 were, it's also useful for showing us who has become MORE popular since 2020, as well as who has lost popularity. Here is a breakdown of the most significant changes between 2020 and 2021 rankings, either due to massive shifts in rankings or significant shifts from high (or low) rankings in 2020. Of course, ranking differences alone don't tell the full story given there were 63 ranks in 2021 but only 43 in 2020, which I've attempted to acount for: Notables: Miyu Yamashita +17 - from 30/43 in 2020 to 13/63 in 2021. Chuck Taylor +14 - from 30/43 in 2020 to 16/63 in 2021. Tay Conti +7 - from 43/43 in 2020 to 36/63 in 2021. Chris Brookes +6 - from 35/43 in 2020 to 29/63 in 2021. Asuka -18 - from 17/43 in 2020 to 35/63 in 2021.... but STILL the top ranked wrestler from WWE! Minoru Suzuki -17 - from 9/43 in 2020 to 26/63 in 2021. Zack Sabre Jr. -17 - from 12/43 in 2020 to 29/63 in 2021, and the first time in 3 threads he didn't rank in 12th place. Hikaru Shida -15 - from 17/43 in 2020 to 32/63 in 2021. John Silver -14 - from 9/43 in 2020 to 23/63 in 2021. Jon Moxley -9 - from 2/43 in 2020 to 11/63 in 2021. Orange Cassidy -9 - from 8/43 in 2020 to 17/63 in 2021. Tomohiri Ishii -9 - from 7/43 in 2020 to 16/63 in 2021. Leyla Hirsch 0 - The same ranking, but 43/43 in 2020 and 43/63 in 2021! WALTER 0 - The same ranking, but 43/43 in 2020 and 43/63 in 2021! Falls From Grace: Yuka Sakazaki -51 - from 11/43 AND the top woman wrestler in 2020 to 62/63 in 2021! Drew McIntyre -44 - from 19/43 in 2020 to 63/63 in 2021. Go Shiozaki -40 - from 18/43 in 2020 to 48/63 in 2021. Hiromu Takahashi -37 - from 5/43 in 2020 to 42/63 in 2021. Kota Ibushi -37 - from 10/43 in 2020 to 47/63 in 2021. Ricky Starks -37 - from 14/43 in 2020 to 51/63 in 2021. Roman Reigns -37 - from 22/43 in 2020 to 59/63 in 2021. Switchblade Jay White -34 - from 28/43 in 2020 to 62/63 in 2021. Toru Yano -30 - from 24/43 in 2020 to 54/63 in 2021. Abadon -29 - from 34/43 in 2020 to 63/63 in 2021. Utami Hayashishita -26 - from 28/43 in 2020 to 54/63 in 2021. Trent? -25 - from 25/43 in 2020 to 50/63 in 2021. Taichi -23 - from 9/43 in 2020 to 32/63 in 2021. Testuya Naito -20 - from 20/43 in 2020 to 40/63 in 2021. Miraculous Ascensions: Kris Statlander +24 - from 33/43 in 2020 to 9/63 in 2021.... AND the highest ranked woman wrestler! Bryan Danielson +22 - from 23/43 in 2020 to 1st place finish in 2021 AND most points EVER in these threads. Penta El Zero M +21 Kazuchika Okada +20 - from 27/43 in 2020 to 7/63 in 2021. Won the 2019 thread, returned to the top ten in 2021. In addition to these, there were a number of wrestlers who featured as Top Ten Favorites in 2020 who disappeared in 2021. Some for understandable reasons, some gigantic surprises. There may also be a few who changed names and I just didn't pick up on it. Whatever the case, here are those wrestlers who were good enough to be listed as some of the absolutely favorite wrestlers for goons in 2020 who didn't even rate a mention in 2021: Alex Shelley, Angel Ortiz, Angelico, Aron Stevens, Bayley, Becky Lynch, Ben-K, Black Taurus, Bray Wyatt, Brian Cage, BxB Hulk, Cara Noir, Charlotte Flair, Chris Dickinson, Chris Jericho, Daisuke Sekimoto, Diamante, Don Fujii, Dragon Kid, Eita, Frankie Kazarian, Goldberg, Hideki Suzuki, Hikaru Sato, Jeff Cobb, Jordan Oliver, Jungle Kyona, Kaito Ishida, Kaori Yoneyama, Keisuke Okuda, Keith Lee, Konami, Kyle O'Reilly, Marko Stunt, Masaaki Mochizuki, Masashi Takeda, Matt Sydal, Matthew Justice, Mayu Iwatani, Meiko Satomura, Mikoto Shindo, Momo Watanabe, Mr. Brodie Lee, Neil Diamond Cutter, Otis, Rhea Ripley, Ricky Marvin, Rina Yamashita, Risa Sera, Rohit Raju, Saki Kashima, Sakura Hirota, SANADA, Sareee, Sasha Banks, Saya Iida, Shoko Najakima, Shotzi Blackheart, Sonya Deville, Stark Adder, Starlight Kid, Super Sasandango Machine, Tadasuke, Taiji Ishimori, Takashi Sugiura, The Butcher, The Hoodfoot, Tony Deppen, Toshiyuki Sakuda, Trish Adora, Viktor Tykki, Willie Mack, Yoshiko, Yoshinari Ogawa, Yuki Arai, Yuki Ueno & Yukio Sakaguchi. Conversely, here are the wrestlers who fell out between 2019 and 2020 who made triumphant (or at least limping) returns to Top Ten lists in 2021: Malakai (formerly Aleister) Black, Andrade El Idolo (formerly Andrade "Cien" Almas), BIG E, Effy, Hirooki Goto, Io Shirai, Jamie Hayter, Joey Janela, Kagetsu, Luchasaurus, MAO, Matt Tremont, Rey Mysterio & Xavier Woods. Finally, as with last year I decided to keep a running tally of how the results looked at the end of each voting day. This will demonstrate of course Bryan Danielson's domination, but also show just how in flux the Top 20 was throughout the course of the eligibility period (and as a bonus, how crazy poo poo was on the first day as each list wildly changed EVERYTHING): https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EnergeticThisChital-mobile.mp4 Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Feb 18, 2022 |
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Feb 13, 2022 12:38
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But wait... there's more! We all predicted and got a consensus view as a result, but who is the most (and least) in tune with the Punch Sport Pagoda mindset? I kept track of all of your Top Ten Lists and compared them to our final results. For every wrestler in a goon's top ten who ended up in the overall top ten, I gave that poster 1 point. For every wrestler in a goon's top ten who ended up in the EXACT place as they did on the overall top ten, I gave that poster 2 points (thus a perfect match to the overall top ten would be worth 20 points). So who knows us better than we know ourselves? Barreft, that's who! With 10 points, Barreft successfully picked 6 of the wrestlers who made the Top 10, and got four of them in the exact right position. Twin Cinema was close behind on 9 points, also correctly picking 6 wrestlers but only getting the top 3 right (they believed TOO much in Thunder Rosa, and it cost them the point!). Conrad Birdie, DeepDickPizza and neoaxd also did well with 8 points, with DeepDickPizza having the most number of correctly picked wrestlers in their Top Ten (7) but only getting one position exactly right (Hangman Adam Page in 3rd place). abraham linksys, Big Dave, GEORGE W BUSHI, J-Ro, Senerio & SG Bamboo all had lists completely at odds with the overall Top 10, while ItohRespectArmy had an incomplete list (5 wrestlers listed only, guess who their #1 pick was!?!) in addition to getting 0 points. But... this was a list of their personal favorites and they can like whoever the hell they want! code:Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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Feb 13, 2022 12:40
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Jerusalem posted:abraham linksys, Big Dave, GEORGE W BUSHI, J-Ro, Senerio & SG Bamboo all had lists completely at odds with the overall Top 10, while ItohRespectArmy had an incomplete list (5 wrestlers listed only, guess who their #1 pick was!?!) in addition to getting 0 points. But... this was a list of their personal favorites and they can like whoever the hell they want! 
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Feb 13, 2022 13:22
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i can't believe eddie kingston kept me from 0.
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Feb 13, 2022 14:45
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Love being the consensus. Thank you, thank you
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Feb 13, 2022 14:46
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Feb 13, 2022 16:10
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Incredible work, thanks for taking all the time to do this. Also, the list just gets me extra hyped to be a wrestling fan these days.
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Feb 13, 2022 16:13
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Two of my favourite things in life are wrestling and spreadsheets. This is my favourite thread. Excellent work as always Jru
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Feb 13, 2022 18:02
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awesome!
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Feb 13, 2022 20:17
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How did you make this?
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Feb 14, 2022 00:53
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karmicknight posted:i can't believe eddie kingston kept me from 0. You didn't stop believing in Eddie, he didn't stop believing in you  That Dang Dad posted:Incredible work, thanks for taking all the time to do this. Also, the list just gets me extra hyped to be a wrestling fan these days. It's so great, wrestling is so fantastic right now  Saul Goode posted:How did you make this? There are a bunch of Bar Chart Race tools online you can either just manually enter the data into or use a csv, and by keeping track of the Top 20 at the end of each day I basically had all the data in my spreadsheet to export out to a CSV with minor edits (the date format can gently caress with things) and then you just need to capture it in some way, I just screen recorded and did some light editing. In other words.... Sandman McMahon posted:Two of my favourite things in life are wrestling and spreadsheets. 
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Feb 14, 2022 00:58
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Jerusalem posted:There are a bunch of Bar Chart Race tools online you can either just manually enter the data into or use a csv, and by keeping track of the Top 20 at the end of each day I basically had all the data in my spreadsheet to export out to a CSV with minor edits (the date format can gently caress with things) and then you just need to capture it in some way, I just screen recorded and did some light editing. Legend, thank you! Count me in on the wrestling/spreadsheets love up 
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Feb 14, 2022 01:44
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tihs place is full of haters and traitors. why ponder their top ten favorite active wrestlers? Fool's errand.
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Feb 14, 2022 04:55
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Jerusalem posted:
This’ll happen for the MOTYC stats!
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Feb 14, 2022 05:00
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again, the best thread of the year cheers jru 
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Thanlis posted:This’ll happen for the MOTYC stats! Nice! graph posted:again, the best thread of the year cheers jru Thanks, and thanks to all who said nice things, but most of all thank you to everybody who posted their lists, hope to see you all back again next year!
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