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I seem to recall that original suicide squad was recut last minute to be more like the trailer for the film. Like they gave the job to the company that made the trailer. Which was basically set to a song. Which is why the movie is such a mess. I saw a YouTube about it once upon a time so it must be right.
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It wouldn't surprise me at all. Like I said, the main characters are introduced three times in three completely different ways. And all the "needle drops" are with songs from the trailer and the action doesn't quite fit.
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Mar 14, 2024 17:32
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one of the introductions ( for will smiths character?) was Eminem 's I'm back song and it was such a strange choice
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How does one not know how to properly cue an extended music sting? It seems self-evident to me, that's probably why I'm not in the industry at all.
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Mar 14, 2024 17:48
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Tristesse posted:Sorry kid with rear end cancer. Isn't the truth beautiful enough for you? Wiig's character gaining powers and brutally beating a man attempting to assault her = villain turn, ominous music Diana setting free the random guy whose consciousness was forcibly taken over by her dead boyfriend = the ultimate hero sacrifice Just bizarre decisions all around
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everydayfalls posted:I seem to recall that original suicide squad was recut last minute to be more like the trailer for the film. Like they gave the job to the company that made the trailer. Which was basically set to a song. Which is why the movie is such a mess. I saw a YouTube about it once upon a time so it must be right. It's thought they decided it needed to be DCCU's Guardians of the Galaxy which uncut Suicide Squad wasn't and recut wasn't much of anything other than a Frankenstein's monster wondering why it was made to feel pain. The other thing about WW84 that gets me aside from the extremely not thought through idea of having Steve possess some rando was having Diana be hung up on a guy she knew decades ago for like a month. This however is a symptom of the DCCU just aping Marvel without any understanding of why what the MCU was doing worked at the time so they had to play with that whole 'she kept to herself until BvS, even sitting out WW2' thing.
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Mar 14, 2024 18:02
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Wonder Woman and the Minions both in the same cave waiting out Hitler.
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"I was fighting Mussolini" "Weren't the Italians totally worthless in WWII?" "Yes, I did do a good job, didn't I?"
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Dawgstar posted:Is it even explained why he wanted to be the vector for wish granting? It's such an odd choice, as opposed to other choices in WW84 which are just bad. I'm doing this from memory so I may be getting this slightly wrong, but the when you make a wish on the stone, it takes something from you as a result. Therefore, if he becomes the stone, he can grant people's wishes and then take things from them. I don't remember what things, it's a very dumb movie, please don't ask.
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I feel like a bunch of needle drops got added because GotG had just had a massive box office success and they wanted to try and retool the movie into something that would directly compare. The problem was that they sucked and didn't fit the scenes they were crammed into, probably because it was an 11th hour thing and they didn't have a competent soundtrack person.
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yeah I dunno if anyone is able to do cool music cues like Gunn, he's so good at not just doing the lamest, easiest choice
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Splint Chesthair posted:Wonder Woman and the Minions both in the same cave waiting out Hitler. i was always rubbed the wrong way by the first wonder woman movie because ww1 is such a loving tonally stupid place to put a cool power fantasy. like yeah gently caress imperial germany and lol that she killed lindendorf or whatever. but it has that lovely trope i hate in alot of movies where it will show the hero loving annialating dozens of randos but then when they have the chance to kill like a legit awful person, then its suddenly time for mercy. like your killing a bunch of conscripted teens but you wont kill the very clear future nazi who makes VX gas. like lol whats funny is james gunn does that trope but makes it work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRQChd-nf9A
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i was always rubbed the wrong way by the first wonder woman movie because ww1 is such a loving tonally stupid place to put a cool power fantasy. like yeah gently caress imperial germany and lol that she killed lindendorf or whatever. but it has that lovely trope i hate in alot of movies where it will show the hero loving annialating dozens of randos but then when they have the chance to kill like a legit awful person, then its suddenly time for mercy. like your killing a bunch of conscripted teens but you wont kill the very clear future nazi who makes VX gas. like lol Yeah, this bugged me a little when watching it. But I loved the No Man's Land scene so much I kinda let it slide.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:whats funny is james gunn does that trope but makes it work. I'll take every opportunity I can to gush over the fact that, apart from the initial surprise hit High Evolutionary gets in on Rocket, Rocket just completely outclasses him once they finally have their big confrontation. Rocket lived with the trauma for a long time and was intimidated by his memory of a towering figure from early in his awakening intelligence, but showing how far Rocket had gone beyond the petty nothing that the supposedly perfect/most evolved man was supposed to be was very, very satisfying. Anyway, Peacemaker... I loved it, hope season 2 is great too!
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moist turtleneck posted:yeah I dunno if anyone is able to do cool music cues like Gunn, he's so good at not just doing the lamest, easiest choice Edgar Wright
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Xelkelvos posted:Edgar Wright People need to see Baby Driver to really experience just how good Wright is in this regard. The music choices are absolutly amazing
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Scorsese, it goes without saying. It was fun to see him purposefully gently caress with timing, making awkward as hel cuts on The Departed. The undisputed master.
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Not going to lie the Shipping Up To Boston prison montage / title card drop still gives me chills.
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thrawn527 posted:I'm doing this from memory so I may be getting this slightly wrong, but the when you make a wish on the stone, it takes something from you as a result. Therefore, if he becomes the stone, he can grant people's wishes and then take things from them. I don't remember what things, it's a very dumb movie, please don't ask. I've watched the movie three times just to show people how bizarre it is and I'm still not sure what Pedro Pascal's deal was. But he absolutely carried that movie as much as he could. It's very bizarre in every way. Like they wrote the script in one bender session and studio gave no notes and all the millions to make it. I think my favorite stupid thing is that despite taking place in the 80s it has nearly no 80s fan-service. Also the ridiculous WW out runs a armored convey to save some Palestinian kids playing in the middle of the road in front of said massive convoy.
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Watched birds of prey, it was definitely disjointed and had some vestigial parts but it also had some really great scenes I liked that it had the guy from future man and the guy from future war back to back
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Thundercracker posted:I've watched the movie three times just to show people how bizarre it is and I'm still not sure what Pedro Pascal's deal was. But he absolutely carried that movie as much as he could.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Don't forget the completely incomprehensible 'hero speech' Diana gets at the very end that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever Which leads into the hilarious bit in Shazam 2 when it looks like Billy is dead and they're all "only a god can revive him" so Diana steps out of the shadows to go on about how there's still a god left or whatever and her electric guitar riff kicks in. It's amazing.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Don't forget the completely incomprehensible 'hero speech' Diana gets at the very end that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever Also when she gets the golden suit of armor featured in the trailer and it does absolutely nothing.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:People need to see Baby Driver to really experience just how good Wright is in this regard. The music choices are absolutly amazing It's also visible in Shaun of the Dead with the jukebox fight.
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I’m pretty sure if I remember right Pedro Pascal was using wishes to take peoples oil? The just starting taking everything for no reason? Then they had Gal Gadot save several Arab soccer-playing children from the oil guy and my eyes rolled out of my head
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one of the least interesting action scenes i've seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNtHU07NXxY
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Modern cgi fest action films are very good at making even the most exciting sounding thing boring as hell.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:People need to see Baby Driver to really experience just how good Wright is in this regard. The music choices are absolutly amazing moist turtleneck posted:yeah I dunno if anyone is able to do cool music cues like Gunn, he's so good at not just doing the lamest, easiest choice Shageletic posted:Scorsese, it goes without saying. It was fun to see him purposefully gently caress with timing, making awkward as hel cuts on The Departed. The undisputed master. So is nobody going to mention Tarantino?
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I'm gonna be a monster and say: Baz Lurhman and Zack Snyder both make great music video interludes in their films.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:one of the least interesting action scenes i've seen Open Source Idiom posted:I'm gonna be a monster and say: Baz Lurhman and Zack Snyder both make great music video interludes in their films. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OhlZJHiMmU&t=142s low q but one of the best action sequences, chase scenes, music selections/remix and intros ever done. Also good fight choreography.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I'm gonna be a monster and say: Baz Lurhman and Zack Snyder both make great music video interludes in their films. Zack Snyder thought it was a great idea to set a sex scene to the tune of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah. Takes No Damage posted:^^^ I don't recall any bathing on any roofs. itry fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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^^^ Was she at least bathing on the roof? Alhazred posted:So is nobody going to mention Tarantino? He doesn't use music as much as people like Gunn, but when he goes he goes hard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjUi-P4gm6k Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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I know it's a rip off, but Tarantino's opening to Jackie Brown goes harder than The Graduate's.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:one of the least interesting action scenes i've seen Great to see one third of the DC Trinity spend most of the scene doing leg day between two Humvees.
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I love how they knew they needed to bring back Chris Pine because he was like the best part of the first movie and they do it in the most baffling way possible.
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Dawgstar posted:Great to see one third of the DC Trinity spend most of the scene doing leg day between two Humvees. A better and shorter scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10
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The Saddest Rhino posted:A better and shorter scene  I wish he got to act in more stuff. Jean-Claude Van Johnson was really fun. IIRC, it had some Future Man energy, which I also enjoyed.
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dr_rat posted:Modern cgi fest action films are very good at making even the most exciting sounding thing boring as hell. It just takes creative artists and directors to make it work. But far too often CGI stuff is outsourced to cheap animation farms that do the bare minimum with no direction or artistic vision, so the results really suck. Even though studios like Disney and Warner Brothers have unlimited money, they still cheap out. Its really disappointing. Super Hero genre is where you could probably do the most creative work with CGI in my opinion.
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I said come in! posted:It just takes creative artists and directors to make it work. Yeah main issue seems to be is there is just to much or it and it's just being used as a crutch. An action scene can be entirly cgi, if every one has time to properly plan it out and make it work. Instead every thing always seems to be rushed as hell, and comes off dull and lifeless, and the scenes always seem to be way to long with a bunch of repetative action, making things worse.
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