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exquisite tea posted:Since this game is launching on PC soon, here are my Quoting this whole thing for a new page. Also, asking: tea, which skill tree did you mean by Ranger?
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does anyone know how not to get my loving rear end kicked in machine strike? i want to get into a collectable board minigame but i'm, you know, getting my loving rear end kicked
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Ytlaya posted:I think positive opinions on Zero Dawn (relative to FW) largely hinge on the core mystery being more interesting (which is kind of unavoidable, since you have big questions like "what's up with all these robot dinosaurs" to answer, while the sequel just had "what's up with the Mysterious Signal" - and the answer to that is about as good as it could have been, since the only alternative would have been something like aliens). I totally agree with this! I've been comparing it to The Matrix sequels. Regardless of the actual quality of those sequels, the first one built a really cool world you could easily imagine telling interesting stories in-- but they're not going to compare to finding out the answer to "what is the Matrix?" the first time. (The first game also leaned in, combining the Existential "who am I and why are things like this?" themes with the Existential "what does it mean to live and die on a civilizational level?" themes.) For Forbidden West, changing topics: I looked up weapon spoilers and did these sick, demented devs really not give us a sharpshooter bow with both advanced arrows and tear arrows? That's outright cruel. Are people just running around with two sharpshooter bows in their weapon wheel like I am, or is it a "git good" thing and people just don't bother with tear arrows anymore?
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exquisite tea posted:Forbidden West kind of shifted the balance of bows to three different archetypes. You have Warrior Bows, which are your rapid fire shotgun weapon designed to do high damage at close range. Then you have Hunter Bows, which are well-balanced for all kinds of roles but are the best at applying elemental effects and stripping components. Sharpshot Bows are your big nukes that you either whip out for stealth kills or to land a boom headshot on an already weakened machine. They sometimes come with tearblast arrows, but those are less precise. In Zero Dawn it was more effective to unload a triple volley of tearblast arrows to strip a machine's armor, Forbidden West would rather you use Hunter Bows with component tear % instead and use Sharpshot Bows primarily to nuke. This makes a lot of sense, but what about component removal for things like upgrades, or blasting off weapons to use against the enemy machines? Do you still mostly used hunter bows built for +tear for those? I used to take Thunderjaws down in New Dawn by tearblasting their guns off, roping them down, and disc-launching them to death. Seems like I haven't found as useful a strategy in Forbidden West for them or for anything else, really. Maybe the combat hasn't fully clicked for me yet! I certainly do a lot of healing and desperate scrambles, and it feels like any big machine takes way more resources out of me than they did in the fist game.
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While people are in the advice giving mood, what weapon skills are worth it? I've been triple-notching and that's about it, even other useful ones like the warrior-bow 5 shot one I often forget about. What are some of the ones people who are good at this game love?
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:i think it's hunter bows, not sharpshot -- the Marshal Hunter Bow with its mathematically optimal mods outperforms Death-Seeker's Shadow with the same by like 12% on average, but only if you assume you get the full overdraw and concentration bonuses on the Marshal Bow 100% of the time and also that you completely ignore the "damage against shocked / burning" and "damage against knocked down" conditional bonuses 12%?!! What are the Mathematically Optimal Mods for this?
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Tilda's story with Elisabet was in the base for me. Aloy straight up asks her if they were more than friends. Tilda compliments her for being perceptive and says they were. Tilda says that she started wanted something more serious right as Elsabet started to pull away. I got the impression they were already over by the time Zero Dawn and the Zenith thing happened. On Aloy's love life: I think her being ace or demi or whatever is a fine reading, as is her being Too Busy For This poo poo / Too Important For Romance. A lot of what exquisite tea said about her wanting to be seen as a person rings true but I'll add she seems to want to be seen as her own person too. If you're as tolerant and encouraging to Avad's advances as you can over the two games she basically tells him "I dunno, maybe, but you're seeing me as a replacement for Ersa right now and that's never going to work. (Also I have to go save the world two more times.)" Avad, as a person who is also a symbol, seemed to get that burden. He also talked about abdicating to be with her, so he seemed to understand that Aloy might want to not just be the Savior of Meridian to her partner-- but he still sorta saw her as Second Ersa, and Aloy has poo poo to do, so that wasn't gonna work out. Erend clearly thought Aloy was hot based on how they met but I think pretty quickly slotted her into a friend / replacement sister box. It's pretty easy to read Varl as having a thing for her too because he's a little puppy-dogish about following her around but I don't think there's anything explicit in the text. Regardless it makes sense both that any of her followers would immediately have a thing for her and also any of her friends would quickly pick up that she's not in a place for that and move on. I don't think Varl was hedging on being with Zo or Erend was nursing a crush through Forbidden West, for example. Probably worth noting that Aloy's never had a model for a romantic relationship, since she was raised by a somewhat emotionally distant single father and was literally never allowed to interact with another human being. She's probably really weirded out by any romantic feelings, including her own potential ones, and is much more comfortable with her feelings about being a special destiny protagonist. Notice in Forbidden West she's conscious of her conflicted feelings about living up to Elsibet's legacy but totally represses her feelings about her dad dying for 80% of the game. I think "hahaha, no time to figure out my sexuality, too many robots to kill!" is where she lands for what I've played so far (just started Burning Shores.) Digital Osmosis fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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