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smackfu posted:There was talk that Station Eleven was “uplifting” because it showed art surviving in a post-pandemic future but it was still overall pretty grim. Even after everyone gets killed off. Well, yeah, 99.99% of humanity died, it's never not going to be grim The point of the show is finding some small specks of hope in the wreckage, whether it's art or simply caring for and looking after each other I found that really uplifting
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Inspector Hound posted:I was a call center agent when this happened, and it did, uh, not get a positive response from customers at large when it was implemented, fwiw I'm sorry you had to go through that. Hopefully 2022 is the year Netflix finally goes down, it's really not doing great right now.
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It's funny because Netflix had a really good recommendation system and even had a big competition to improve it but they had to throw all that out the window because in its current form it doesn't have enough content so 1) they pretty much have to show all new content to everyone, and 2) they don't want customers to be able to see that the system is predicting that the entire library will be 2-3 out of five stars for them.
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Chaotic Flame posted:I'm going to have to give Station 11 another chance it seems. I watched the first episode randomly with my family over the holidays and we were all confused by a lot of the choices the characters were making with seemingly no context for why they were making those decisions, so I bounced off. What specifically? Only thing I can think of is the main guys choice to run on stage, which is specifically treated as an odd thing to do and it’s implied there’s more to it than we know. I’ve only watched 2 episodes but I can’t really think of anything else in episode 1.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I'm sorry you had to go through that. On the other hand, people were begging for a "play random whatever" feature, and when it was implemented it turned out just as horrible as I thought it would. Kids show, fireplace, kids show, insanely violent horror movie, sitcom, why would people want this
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veni veni veni posted:What specifically? Only thing I can think of is the main guys choice to run on stage, which is specifically treated as an odd thing to do and it’s implied there’s more to it than we know. It was a while ago and I just thought it was a random throwaway show since I hadn't heard anything about it when we watched, so I don't really remember. I just remember asking "why" a lot while watching. I'm going to give it another watch and see if I feel differently. It was pretty late when we watched so maybe we were all tired.
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Galavant is really loving good. Y'all should watch it.
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mystes posted:It's funny because Netflix had a really good recommendation system and even had a big competition to improve it but they had to throw all that out the window because in its current form it doesn't have enough content so 1) they pretty much have to show all new content to everyone, and 2) they don't want customers to be able to see that the system is predicting that the entire library will be 2-3 out of five stars for them. Netflix has a fuckload of content what are you on about? And the 2-3 star issue wasn't an issue when the star rating system was around.
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They have a lot of content but not a lot of good content.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:They have a lot of content but not a lot of good content. That's not true either what the hell is wrong with you people? There is a shitload of good content on Netflix. There's a lot of stuff across tons of genres so there's always going to be a lot of noise to a person's taste, but there is still quite a lot of high quality content.
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Also as an aside I recommend people check out the Land of the Giants podcast series. Each season covers the rise and future of a tech giant. The Netflix and Apple seasons are great. The Google and Amazon ones are good too.
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Everyone, including me, wants what we very much can't have: the Netflix of the early 2010's. It was awesome!
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Everyone, including me, wants what we very much can't have: the Netflix of the early 2010's. It was awesome! I want the timeline where Qwikster still exists
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If you intentionally make broadly appealing content like Red Notice, of course you are going to promote it to every user of your service.
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FishBowlRobot posted:Hell yeah. It gets me amped every time. Then the last few seconds with just the drums and the Baywatch transparent text moving further out. gently caress it, might as well post it. Don't forget the end credits theme! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La48noL_LZE
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BonoMan posted:That's not true either what the hell is wrong with you people? There is a shitload of good content on Netflix. They also have plenty of content that people are going hopefully to feel is worth watching in various genres, but they explicitly announced that the reason they switched away from star ratings because they felt that there would be content that people would want to watch that they wouldn't feel was 5 stars (in other words most of their content is going to be stuff that people would rate 3 stars but would still be willing to watch) so I don't think that's really something that can be disputed. mystes fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jan 23, 2022 |
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My thing with Netflix and their original content, in the first few years that they were creating original content, they were trying to be taken seriously, and were putting a lot of effort into making sure that it was both original, and quality. They had a few misses, but maybe around 2015, if Netflix was coming out with a new show, you'd make a point to sit down and watch it. Now they're just churning out so much utter poo poo, and only maybe 1 out of maybe 20 new shows is actually worth checking out.
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Netflix still produces the best original content out there. If anything the quality average has gotten higher over the years not lower. I still remember when "Netflix Original Film" and "Netflix Animated Series" was synonymous for being utter poo poo. Now they release stuff like "Don't Look Up" and while their animated catalog more than speaks for itself.
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mystes posted:Perhaps I phrased that poorly. They have been accumulating original content so they now have a decent amount when you include their back catalog. However people who have been subscribed continuously for a long time are going to have already seen most of that that they are interested, and at the rate they create content, in terms of new content they pretty much do have to "show all new content to everyone" to have additional, new content to promote as I said; it's very different from when it was a DVD rental service and they had essentially every movie ever made, so they could just find out what people were interested in and recommend tons of additional movies based on individual preferences. Yeah they have a back catalog of great stuff, but I would say they have the slowest trickle of releases I even want to watch and even less that I am remotely excited about in regards to any of the big services. I find HBO and Hulu to be the main ones I go to, with Netflix and prime being the back up “all right maybe I can find some trash to watch” backup option.
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mystes posted:Perhaps I phrased that poorly. They have been accumulating original content so they now have a decent amount when you include their back catalog. However people who have been subscribed continuously for a long time are going to have already seen most of that that they are interested, and at the rate they create content, in terms of new content they pretty much do have to "show all new content to everyone" to have additional, new content to promote as I said; it's very different from when it was a DVD rental service and they had essentially every movie ever made, so they could just find out what people were interested in and recommend tons of additional movies based on individual preferences. https://www.businessinsider.com/why-netflix-replaced-its-5-star-rating-system-2017-4 That's a good explanation of why they changed it (and also next of rating weaponization). I don't think they explicitly said what you said they did. But I'm not a closed book on it. Open to other sources. I mean I'm going to make an effort post about it later... But I have been subscribed since they start streaming and haven't even come close to seeing everything. Not by a country mile. Maybe someone that binges all day everyday? I don't know. But there is tons still left for me to see. I also don't agree that they're churning our utter poo poo. And the 1 out of 20 shows is worth watching is pretty laughable. I mean maybe if you have super niche tastes but there's a lot of high quality stuff out there. I love HBO and they have always been the gold standard for high quality, but I feel like they totally have the slowest trickle of content out of the major streamers. It feels like Apple TV level of output. I think Patriot was the last thing I watched on Prime lol.
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Part of it is me changing and what I'm willing to experiment on, but I remember that disc Netflix basically could act like the clerk at the cool video store. Like Robocop and Total Recall? Check out the Fourth Man. Did you like The Vanishing? Check out the Swedish original. I don't think those kinds of movies are as likely to get to a Netflix where they have to pay ongoing license fees, and they certainly aren't the movies that get active promotion. Disc Netflix would always have to manage available supply of blockbusters, so to keep you subscribed they had to get creative on finding more left of center things that you would still enjoy. Now, supply of any individual hit is infinite, and they have enough money to keep cranking out new stuff to meet any and every niche. Netflix has lots of good targeted tuff, but it's harder to be truly surprised by a recent recommendation anymore.
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I'd been rating things for a decade when they got rid of the star system and I was starting to get spooky good recommendations. Now it's just waving trash in front of my face and insisting I take it like I'm a fat tourist who's just gotten off a cruise ship in a Caribbean port.
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Better Watch Out on Prime is without a doubt the worst movie I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of movies. And no it ain't fun bad or so bad it has to be seen to be believed, just read the plot on wikipedia if you really wanna. it's Funny Games by way of a Redditor manchild. Incredibly cringy.
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Euphoria: So many penises
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mcmagic posted:Euphoria: So many penises Given HBO's propensity for gratuitous vagina, it's a nice change for once
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I liked both The Lost Daughter and The Power of the Dog on Netflix. Great performances by Olivia Colman and Jess Plemons, respectively.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Better Watch Out on Prime is without a doubt the worst movie I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of movies. And no it ain't fun bad or so bad it has to be seen to be believed, just read the plot on wikipedia if you really wanna. it's Funny Games by way of a Redditor manchild. Incredibly cringy.
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Ozark is just crack serialized TV in it's most pure and empty calories form.
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BonoMan posted:https://www.businessinsider.com/why-netflix-replaced-its-5-star-rating-system-2017-4 HBO Max is great, but the trickle of stuff is slow and they very unfortunately lost the Warner Bros. film day one releases. They don't really have too many killer original IPs that are running compared to Disney or Netflix. To me HBO Max is basically HBO content and "almost everything else that is not owned by Disney". I will say saying that they are like AppleTV+ is far too harsh. They have enough content to be in the running as someone's "main service" but it is the most barren of the major three. Hulu might as well be lumped with the Disney Bundle since the Disney Bundle is more or less the same price as Netflix these days and just a few dollars more than HBO Max. I find that Hulu essentially lives and dies by FX content. Hulu originals can be great but they aren't as influential on average as what's on Netflix or on Disney+. Luckily chances are if you have Hulu, you also have Disney+ too these days. Can't speak for Amazon since I haven't had Prime in years. It used to be dire, but it has seriously stepped up it's game since. I unsubscribed half a decade ago and the service has gotten far better content since. I did watch "Invincible" which was incredible. Netflix is like 'the PlayStation of streaming services". Not only are they by far the biggest, but they operate under the philosophy of "having something for everyone" rather than "making something for everyone". They have quality programming in almost any genre for almost any demographic. To the point that they will greenlight the most nichey thing imaginable. Sure they may be too cancel happy, but who else would have greenlit a practical effects big budget "The Dark Crystal" series? Compare this to Disney who have the blockbuster Marvel and Star Wars universes to carry water as their major series. And while HBO Max does original programming too, it rarely feels as "avant-garde" as Netflix. It feels like stuff you'd see on network TV.
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Not sure how Netflix is in the US, but here in Norway their pre-2000 library is way too small and the pre-1980 library is practically nonexistent
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South Korea is making Netflix's bangers and Netflix killed (almost) daredevil, Luke cage and MST3k Without south Korea Netflix is pretty weak to me
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Even if HBO Max never released any new content and was just a way to rewatch the Sopranos and movies older than 2005 it would still be better than Netflix lol Speaking of which Euphoria and Righteous Gemstones were both bangers again this week 
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There's something for everyone on nearly all of these. Not sure why people feel the need to get so console warrior about it. The only thing I wish is that Netflix had a smaller plan. Like... Maybe just a Netflix Originals plan that was 7.99 or whatever. I know it's because of the low amount of content at the moment but Apple+ pricing is fantastic. Also apropos of nothing. HBO Max has the single worst backend and UI. It always kicks me out for some reason. I constantly have to resign in. And the playback UI is atrocious.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I will say saying that they are like AppleTV+ is far too harsh. I was saying that only in reference to what I felt their new show trickle was like. Not overall content! edit: So I just popped on to Netflix real quick to look at the content. Specificially at a couple of carousel's with just Netflix content. Here's what I've seen some or all of - not listing anything else. This is stuff I consider very watchable and/or fun content. Don't Look Up After Life The Queen's Gambit Dead to Me The End of the loving World (so good) Derry Girls Maid Tick, Tick... Boom! The Movies that Made Us The Haunting of Hill House Back to the Outback Squid Game Arcane School of Chocolate High Score Sweet Tooth The Crown The Toys That Made Us A Series of Unfortunate Events Baking Impossible The Great British Bake Off Grace and Frankie Our Planet Peaky Blinders Dark Bloodline Midnight Mass Arrested Development Mindhunter Formula 1: Drive to Survive A Boy Called Christmas Stranger Things The Witcher Hellbound Ozark Queer Eye All of that is on just a couple of carousels. I didn't even dig into the catalog. And again - just the one's I've seen some or all of. Not even listing the stuff that I've heard is good but haven't gotten around to yet. There is a *shitload* of good content on Netflix and I'd argue that if you can't find it (other than having some one off "I only watch anime" niche or something) you just aren't looking. BonoMan fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jan 24, 2022 |
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I guess what is "looking" in 2022. Unless you're getting fed stuff in the carousel, what is actually a meaningful way to find shows of interest? In the linear days, you had TV Guide to get synopses and whatnot, or you could just bounce around the channels and see what caught your eye on Wednesday at 8. Hell, even when cable made that onerous, you could just sit on the GUIDE channel and get a rundown of what was around. Netflix has eliminated most of its own public facing categorization and curation, certainly in its tv-based interactions, and most of their stuff relies on licensed or created originals so it's not even as if you can say "I missed a season of that show/missed this big movie." You mostly only know about something if Netflix tells you it's there. If you're someone who's not terminally online, how do you even know what's available, much less what's good beyond the big tentpoles? EDIT: This is true for all of them, but I feel Hulu and HBO have done a better job of straight genre or subject matter searching.
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People really need to specify what the client is running on when they complain about it. On a tvOS Apple TV, the Apple TV app is arguably worse than HBO Max. Max is a bit slower but that’s about it. The Apple TV app being both a client for their service and a content hub (that other apps have to opt-in to) is not a great experience. I remember when HBO Now first launched and that was virtually unusable on the old hockey puck Apple TV 3, both due to poo poo streaming quality and a garbage client (for example, you couldn’t add a TV show to your list, just individual episodes).
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The Modern Leper posted:I guess what is "looking" in 2022. Unless you're getting fed stuff in the carousel, what is actually a meaningful way to find shows of interest? In the linear days, you had TV Guide to get synopses and whatnot, or you could just bounce around the channels and see what caught your eye on Wednesday at 8. Hell, even when cable made that onerous, you could just sit on the GUIDE channel and get a rundown of what was around. The best "looking" is word of mouth of course - but that doesn't apply to everyone of course. I'm not sure I agree with eliminating public facing categorization and curation? My feed is nothing but curated genre specific carousels for the most part. But Netflix does have a newer "let's just watch something" feature that, for lack of a better analog, is kind of like the guide in the sense that it enables you to just start poking around. Mostly though it was geared towards the people here that are just like "Netflix doesn't have anything lol" or "A Korea show was big on Netflix so apparently the entire service is upheld by Korean TV" - those kind of folks are totally able to dig deeper or hop on JustWatch or Decider or whatever. There's lots of resources that may require being online - just not terminally so.
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david_a posted:People really need to specify what the client is running on when they complain about it. On a tvOS Apple TV, the Apple TV app is arguably worse than HBO Max. Max is a bit slower but that’s about it. The Apple TV app being both a client for their service and a content hub (that other apps have to opt-in to) is not a great experience. I'm on a 2019 TCL 6 Series RokuTV. Performance wise, they're both "ok" with HBO Max definitely being slower. But independent of sluggishness and just going on their UI/UX experience - the HBOMax app is just *bad design*. The playback experience and options available are just bad and terrible. Netflix is still the king in terms of "what's available to me when I pause/and in realtime playback (ff, rw, etc)" Actually Disney+ may have the worst playback UI of all of them. EDIT: Also ironically we're doing a big budget crunch and Netflix, b/c of price, is #1 on the chopping block. But I do like it. I know it feels like I'm stanning for them, but really I want everyone to enjoy everything and find something fun to watch everywhere!
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