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gbs but from 2004 posted:hell yeah these 2 posts was the poo poo I was looking for. Hhh is racist? HHH: *To Booker T, a Black man and one of the most popular wrestlers of the late '90s and '00s* "People like you don't get to be champion."
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Vince = DJT Sr Straight up, all that poo poo about Trump being Vince McMahon's half-brother makes too much sense.
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Infidel Castro posted:Nothing on WWE TV goes on without Vince or Bruce giving the OK so it's 100% Shane taking the fall. If it's one thing Shane knows how to do, it's take a fall.
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Keller added, “While all this is going on, Shane is sweating, profusely [and] this has been a thing for him recently, more than recently where there’s a concerning level of perspiration. It’s almost like just droplets are shooting out of his head and face.” Ahahaha oh my God
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Feb 4, 2022 00:30
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Jamesman posted:The video games were what got me into watching in the first place. I had a demo of WWF Smackdown for PlayStation that I tried out with friends, and we had so much fun with it, I went out and bought the full game. Then I bought the sequel, which introduced me to Too Cool. 2 Cool and Rikishi were, without hyperbole, the single greatest act in the history of any entertainment medium and always will be.
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Feb 4, 2022 15:01
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Japanese wrestling is great because they don't even pretend to make a serious product I mean, it's not all like that. New Japan Pro Wrestling and Stardom are both "serious" promotions in Japan, and there are some comedy wrestling promotions in the US that are great (Pro Wrestling Gorilla and WrestleCircus having some great comedy wrestling), but then there's stuff in Japan like DDT that's... oh, it's a treat. They still do have really high-quality matches, but they also have wrestlers fighting blow-up dolls and invisible opponents. And then there's the Ironman Heavymetalweight championship: a belt that must be defended 24/7 and spans multiple promotions all over the globe. The belt changes hands constantly (from the wiki: "As of February 4, 2022, there have been 1,528 officially recognized reigns between 390 different human individuals, 6 teams and 42 inanimate objects and animals. The record for most reigns is held by Shinobu, who won it 216 times, including by trading the title back-and-forth with 215-time champion Yuko Miyamoto a total of 303 times on the same night."). It has been won by a ladder, by a team of three elementary school girls, Vince McMahon's Hollywood Walk of Fame star, and belt has even won itself on multiple occasions. The title has changed hands in a dream at least once. It's definitely a high water mark for the sport and worth checking out the history of title changes if you're interested: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ironman_Heavymetalweight_Champions
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YeahTubaMike posted:Oh man, I really want to see this. It is... hard to watch. Goldberg managed to concuss himself before the match even started. e: before making it out of backstage, even
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Feb 4, 2022 15:39
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What did he do, open a door with his head? Got it in one.
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Kuato posted:Lol they released Bray Wyatt? I quit following for a while. So apparently they managed to take one of their most over performers and make him unmarketable? Impressive. It's worse. They clearly tried to sabotage his even more over Fiend gimmick and then axed him while he was still topping merch sales.
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Feb 6, 2022 01:23
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pretty soft girl posted:If someone told me the shockmaster introduction was a scene from an uncompleted Chris Farley is a pro wrestler movie I'd believe it Oh my God why didn't anyone pitch this when Farley was still alive. Dude, I am so sad now. I'm not even joking holy poo poo
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Feb 6, 2022 01:25
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Elephant Ambush posted:He must have really hurt some feelings in creative because firing someone who is selling the most merch is one of the few things they almost never do. The one thing you absolutely do not do in WWE is get over with fans when it wasn't Vince's idea.
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Feb 6, 2022 01:48
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Elephant Ambush posted:Didn't Danielson and Punk both do that though? Exactly. Danielson and his fans had to fight tooth and nail for months to actually get WWE to relent (same with Kofi Kingston). Punk's experience at WWE was so awful it put him off of wrestling for 7 years. I guess it would be more accurate to say "Vince will do everything in his power to punish people who get over when it wasn't his idea." Remember Rusev Day? Zack Ryder?
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Feb 6, 2022 02:42
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Seth Pecksniff posted:This is a fascinating analysis and I wouldn't sleep on it Straight up. And I think it really gets to the heart of that Vince McMahon quote about WWE: that they don't do wrestling shows, "[they] make movies."
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But also at least 100%. It's both at the same time, and it always has been.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Jesus christ, I picked a great time to stop watching My dude, the Snitsky angle was so indescribably bad and tasteless. That was a really good write-up, and it still does not even come close expressing how loving vile and poo poo it was. e: yes, you picked a really good time to stop watching
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Feb 7, 2022 05:52
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gbs but from 2004 posted:Yeah but Vince McMahon seems like extra psychopath right He is the 1% both financially and in terms of mental issues, without question.
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Feb 7, 2022 22:17
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Elephant Ambush posted:The Undertaker is a white supremacist I do recall hearing lot of "wrestler's court" stories that kind of made him sound like kind of a piece of poo poo.
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Feb 7, 2022 22:26
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I have a feeling a lot of wrestlers are Trump guys. Not as many as you'd think, but way more than you'd hope.
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Feb 7, 2022 22:39
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gbs but from 2004 posted:at least we have mick Foley to balance it out And Kevin Nash.
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Feb 7, 2022 22:43
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gbs but from 2004 posted:is Kevin nash a normal human as well or is he another disappointing homophobe / right winger / qanoner? I don’t follow him at all Kevin Nash is straight-up cool as hell. Anti-Trump, anti-conservative, pro-BLM, pro-vaccine. He's a good dude.
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Feb 7, 2022 22:55
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shadow puppet of a posted:A good dude who ruined dozens of careers all for a good laugh with his circle of drug bros. Yeah... ... yeah...
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Feb 7, 2022 23:02
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shadow puppet of a posted:Also anyone that misses old wcw should really watch aew. It’s got that same glorious thousands deep well of wrestlers roster like a owning a bucket full of m.u.s.c.l.e figures and the inmates are clearly running the asylum and the backstage executive guy just wants to be in with them like bischoff so it’s also got that class-where-no-teacher-showed up energy. This sums it up really nicely. It's got some strong WCW-in-2022 energy pouring off it. I don't think it will ever unseat WWE the way WCW did (for 83 weeks at least lol), but as long as everyone involved understands and is fine with that, I think it'll be a good product for years to come.
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Feb 7, 2022 23:12
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I still cannot believe Raw is 3 hours long. And apparently there was an episode a few weeks ago that featured less than 30 minutes of wrestling across the entire 3-hour program?
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Well WWE is on TV right now and I'm debating switching to it. I want the real poo poo. The Vince McMahon garbage. I think I'll try it out. Yeah, if you're wanting to see the sort of poo poo this thread is about, that's where you're going to see it. I'm an AEW evangelist, too, but if you want to see into the demented mind of Vince McMahon, you should get it from the source.
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Feb 8, 2022 02:34
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Ok I turned on WWE for 10 minutes and it was two people slowly talking in the ring the whole time. It was boring. Back to AEW. Yeah, it's too bad this thread wasn't around like 6-12 months ago when Alexa Bliss and Lilly the Doll were on loving nonstop. That was some peak Vince bullshit. I'm on a phone so I'm not really in much of a position to give a comprehensive rundown, but they leaned loving hard into making one of their more conventionally attractive women's wrestlers into suddenly acting like a possessed childlike girl and making her weird doll haunt people and cause other wrestlers to puke black goo. That was some poo poo.
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Feb 8, 2022 02:49
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Jamesman posted:See that's the kinda thing I eat up. I loved wrestling when it was just not trying to take itself seriously (but also wasn't using rape as a plot device). It's probably why I latched on so hard to Too Cool, and why I stopped watching when they got rid of The Spirit Squad, which I kinda want to gush about at some point in this thread. Oh yeah. I mean, check my avatar. I liiiiiive for silly stuff. Too Cool, Orange Cassidy, Luchasaurus, Jervis Cottonbelly, Kris Statlander, Abadon, The Dark Order are my absolute jam. Like, yeah, Kenny Omega's series of 6+ star classics with Kazuchika Okada was awesome, but The Dark Order's 8-man tag where against the Super Elite and everyone was wearing Halloween costumes was my 2021 match of the year and it wasn't even close. The world sucks. Give me something weird and joyful put together by people having the time of their lives and I am in. e: To be clear, I'm not throwing shade. There were a ton of people who hated that character, but there were a lot who absolutely loved her in that persona and I don't blame them one bit. My response was to the dude who said that the 10 minutes he watched of WWE was boring as poo poo. Her big run with that gimmick was divisive, but it sure as poo poo wasn't boring. e2: Probably a lot of the hate she got for the character was that she was given the gimmick to act as Bray Wyatt's partner. Then Bray Wyatt got fired, but she kept the gimmick. I think it's fair to say that there was a lot of bitterness surrounding that, the bitterness directed towards her was entirely unwarranted because absolutely none of it was in any way her fault. It was hosed up that she bore so much of it. Time_pants fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Feb 8, 2022 |
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Big Beef City posted:Saw creepy Harley Quinn fan service girl talking to a sexual predator 'therapist' trying to make her give up her mini-me doll and it grossed me out too much to keep watching. (To the goon who said 'tell me why I shouldn't be in love [with this character]' loving gross is why. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with the gimmick of She-Taker or Ms. Fiend per se, but there have been several points where it has veered into really gross territory with the infantilization and/or sexualization of her character.
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gbs but from 2004 posted:Aew is a good mix of “serious” wrestling and dumb fun. The Halloween match where the heels dressed as ghostbusters was actually super fun to watch, you should check it out I mentioned at the top of the page that was my match of the year for 2021. One of my top feel-good moments in like 30 years of being a wrestling fan.
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gbs but from 2004 posted:yeah I was gonna mention you brought it up too but I couldn’t find the post for some reason but yeah agreed, it was so good I know he donated a pretty substantial amount of money to Republican candidates. Rock 'n roll.
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Feb 8, 2022 23:17
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Trollologist posted:Do the brawl for all next! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh God loving Brawl For All. I know it was at least mentioned in here, but holy poo poo it did not get the spotlight it deserved ITT.
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Feb 8, 2022 23:30
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Gavok posted:1998 was the year when WWF was figuring its poo poo out and was rising up to beat down WCW and regain its spot as the #1 wrestling company. They had so many hot acts at the time like Steve Austin, The Rock, D-Generation X, Mankind, Kane, and so on. There were so many great characters and ideas that it’s shocking that this was the year when Brawl for All happened. This is the world's most perfect post. If all of humanity and its history were to vanish in an instant and only one thing could be preserved for whatever discovers the ruins, I would want it to be this.
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Trollologist posted:The real story about how Vince sucks rear end is the tragic tale of Zach Ryder. Oh God no. Poor Zach's career. Look how they massacred my boy. E: Elephant Ambush posted:I have good news. Since he left WWE he's been one of the top draws in the indies, particularly Game Changer Wrestling which features guest appearances by Mick Foley on a semi regular basis. This is true, and it's awesome he finally landed on his feet. He is completely unrecognizable from his Hype Bros days. And I miss those days. Time_pants fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Trollologist posted:Oh yeah, that's the stuff. It's insane to me that Vince would rather throw his toys out of the pram rather than make money off of other people's ideas and just giving people what they want, but I guess that's why I'm not a billionaire and/or psychopath.
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Peggy Edson posted:Vince Mcmahon isn't a billionaire either, LOL! Sorry. As CM Punk famously said: "A millionaire that should be a billionaire."
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MyChemicalImbalance posted:I have a vague memory of head being screwed onto a bottle of head and shoulders so it could be pinned in a tag team match. I dunno if that happened or if it was a fever dream. It was a fever dream, but it was a fever dream that happened in the waking world.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Per Gavok from the AEW primer thread I linked earlier: Ah ah ah! Hot, flexible wife. He would definitely not want you to leave that part out.
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gbs but from 2004 posted:Didnt Vince McMahon finally publicly admit in the 80s (as part of some legal hearing) that it was fixed and therefore not a sport so that he could pay less taxes or something? Yes. But remember, Vince thinks that his audience are idiots.
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Animal-Mother posted:God drat joy Thank you for sharing this story. Honestly, I got a little choked up at the reveal of the tickets. That sounds amazing.
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Jamesman posted:Personally, I felt like the novelty wore off after the first competition, which is how I tend to feel about most reality competitions. The later seasons didn't really do anything to change up the formula with the exception of Tough Enough 4, but that was simply because MTV wasn't making it its own show anymore, so WWE had to incorporate it into its normal programming. And I would say those changes were stupid and dangerous for everyone involved. God, dude. The Spirit Squad, the B-Team, and Zach Ryder and Curtis Axel are such treasures, dude. God bless jobber stables and tag teams. We need more of them. I know that AEW has The Wingmen, but it's not really the same because they get next to no TV time. I don't think I even recall seeing them after their pretty flat feud with Orange Cassidy.
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