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30.5 Days posted:To be fair, step 2 ends up being a long drawn out argument and then someone walks in and goes "why the gently caress is every post on this page about whether America suppressed Fred Hamptons free speech by murdering him?" I think the problem here is the unstated assumption that if a comparison is going to be made it is only possible for it to be to the US. Which, yep, means every other page the thread derails into arguments about American politics which really loving sucks for those of us who just want to discuss what's happening in China. As someone who's been on the receiving end of both extremes of bad faith arguing in the China thread, I'd like to tentatively purpose two possible rules: 1) No discussing US policy/history/social conditions unless they interact with China or are directly involved in a current news story. I know this seems draconian but at this stage I honestly don't see a way to prevent the thread constantly devolving into arguments about the US otherwise. Note: this still allows for comparison, just not the typical, lazy option of comparison to the US specifically. 2) No jumping straight to Xinjiang/Hong Kong/Tiananmen every time anything that could be construed as remotely positive about China is posted. It should be possible to look at poo poo China does and occasionally think it's a good idea (like jailing business leaders who lie about emissions) without immediately being accused of supporting genocide. I honestly think those two rules, or something similar, would clear up a lot of the issues people have with the thread. Daduzi fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 31, 2022 |
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I'm as sick of whatabboutism as the next person, but trolling on an internet forum ain't abuse. It's pretty easy to just not engage.
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