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thought this could be a fun little CSPAM discussion There's an (attempted) artist revolution against Spotify at the moment, for several different reasons. The first, obviously, was Joe Rogan. Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, and others, removed their music from the platform in response to Rogan's covid misinformation. For an added lol, some news orgs tried to spin this as Spotify removing the music, rather than the artists doing so. https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/spotify-agrees-remove-neil-youngs-music-joe-rogan-dispute-rcna13698 But also, other artists (like the eve6 guy and Cake) are trying to build a wider musician's movement to get away from spotify due to the exploitation of artists, low pay, etc. He gives a particularly insane anecdote about his own band's financials. https://twitter.com/Eve6/status/1488158473028202496 https://www.garbageday.email/p/ah-the-cognitive-dissonance-it-hurts It turns out, in fact, that Spotify was bribing large labels with equity share in exchange for them not suing. There's a lot of nonsense in the music industry! https://twitter.com/CAKEMUSIC/status/1488278251617144835 Spotify's pay is atrocious!  (I personally use Tidal bc of the good audio quality and interesting curated content, but they have their own drama around MQA) An unrelated funny thing: There's a hot new NFT grift called Hitpiece, which is allegedly getting millions in VC funding to create NFTs of songs and album art, etc. The one issue, besides all the other issues? They don't own any of the rights, or even have artist permission to do any of this. https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/1488669200344252417 https://twitter.com/LeftAtLondon/status/1488625125821804544 I could post a million of these but you get the point. The company is literally being created to try to force legislation around the issue. This is obviously working very well and they're getting sued to oblivion lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMk0SEi93nY  Some publications are even obviously taking money to talk about it: https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1488971625513078794 So here's a thread to talk about how dumb and exploitative the music industry is, or just art in general I guess. There's some good drama going so it seemed like a good time to chat about it.
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calling judakel. repeat - judakel you are urgently needed
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Feb 2, 2022 22:30
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lets fast forward 25 pages - intellectual properly rights are counter-revolutionary BULLSHIT as a whole vs. oh so you want impoverished woc artists to STARVE?!?!
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I have a relative who works for Spotify and they did like … something, with almost no real experience in the industry, to get Billie Eilish famous / on board with Spotify. and now gets a shitload of money to… I do not know what. point being, can’t possibly pay musicians the money they deserve, you gotta pay dozens of weird corporate types!!
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Gunshow Poophole posted:I have a relative who works for Spotify and they did like … something, with almost no real experience in the industry, to get Billie Eilish famous / on board with Spotify. “Look, if we force someone to listen to a song they get their skips back! idk it’s someone named Billie something. Huh? Yea interscope is going to pay us millions!”
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Feb 2, 2022 22:42
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this reads like someone trying to chant a magic spell in order to somehow walk off with punitive damages
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I think music should be encoded onto physical materials and not player piano beep boop computer bits
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Feb 2, 2022 22:47
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just buy physical media directly from the artist when you can
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i do not care op
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Intellectual property is fake. Real musicians get paid from playing live. These people got hosed by their own record companies 50 years ago. Them bitching about their lost revenue from album sales was feeble back in the days of taping poo poo off the radio, so a hearty lol at them still trying this poo poo 20 years after napster. Spotify doesn't have to give a single gently caress about or Neil Young, Joni Mitchel, or any other washed up boomer/gen x act.
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RandolphCarter posted:just buy physical media directly from the artist when you can And if you can't then at least buy from Bandcamp, specifically on Bandcamp Fridays, 1st Friday of the month where Bandcamp waive their cut. Spotify sucks rear end and doesn't even let me just play an entire album all the way through on my phone. gently caress that.
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I buy on Bandcamp, OP. from my own meager musical activities, I can report that a single Bandcamp album sale is worth approximately infinite Spotify steams.
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Feb 3, 2022 02:05
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based napster stays winning
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i get all my music from mp3.ringtone.ru
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Skyl3lazer posted:Spotify's pay is atrocious! yeah that's bad but lol at all the ones worse than spotify. jesus christ pandora is dogshit. google is also the most exploitative of them all, people should abolish google imo
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Smythe posted:based napster stays winning also this
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paul_soccer12 posted:lets fast forward 25 pages - intellectual properly rights are counter-revolutionary BULLSHIT as a whole vs. oh so you want impoverished woc artists to STARVE?!?! looking forward to someone calling them workers
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:looking forward to someone calling them workers neil young is a prole, like you and me
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https://twitter.com/crackconnoisser/status/1486917368253136898
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i think funniest thing people don't realize is the that rogan lost like half his listeners/viewers when he switched from youtube to spotify so kicking him off spotify is just getting rid of the paywall and making him more accessible lol
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Feb 3, 2022 03:42
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https://twitter.com/jairbolsonaro/status/1329113457694830597?s=21
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the hitpiece thing is so stupid and unbelievable on its face that ive been trying to think of what the real scam might be. it might be something like the listed nfts are just placeholders so artists have to pay to mint them
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excited for hundreds of thousands of posts taht are like 'so what even is an nft anyway?', 'i'm a wise 34 year old and i use soulseek instead of spotify', '*boomer musician* deserves to be ripped off because they are an annoying liberal' etc
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yellowcar posted:i think funniest thing people don't realize is the that rogan lost like half his listeners/viewers when he switched from youtube to spotify
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real music fans pay for raw ogg vorbis cassette tapes that they then rip manually using an analog-to-digital cassette converter that they then spend months curating on a custom foobar2000 gui library.
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haha. I just use my Talkboy Home Alone edition to record ASMR's off twitch. Ever hear someone smashing eggs between their feet while running? Hit my 1 mile PR
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The only music I listen to is my farts recorded and then turned into dubstep tracks
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i click on a youtube that has something in the title like 12 hour, sleep, relax, study and absentmindedly go forward with my day
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Private Cumshoe posted:The only music I listen to is my farts recorded and then turned into dubstep tracks Gene?
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I keep a live band in a cage and throw them my table scraps.
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Feb 3, 2022 12:36
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am i a weirdo by just listening my music on youtube
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this situation at least had me learn about other options that i'd previously been unaware of. this french app called 'qobuz' has pretty great sound quality and basically the same library. i think you need a halfway decent system to notice though. anyway, was worth it for me
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i mean i have 300 dollar floor standing klipsch speakers, i'm not talking ludicrously good system or anything also lol that one of neil's post-spotify missives was ranting about the sound quality
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Feb 3, 2022 14:34
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https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/fe...wn-game-834746/ Gorillaz and Prozack but bad!
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Hmm it seems like there might be a larger problem with labels taking an insane amount of earnings that this is being used to smokescreen
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the only band I ever bother to see live just gives you a free digital download of their latest album when you buy tickets to see them in person, and I like that model
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Mach-Hommy is a kickass rapper who sells his albums for thousands of dollars and it loving rules, not least because he's making more money than he would putting his stuff on Spotify or whatever
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Both Rogan and the artists protesting him deserve to go in the gulag.
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