precision posted:

personally i have an inner voice constantly always and forever screaming at me for not being perfect even though i'm way nicer than most people because even though i was NOT raised catholic or particularly religiously, really i had a great childhood in almost every way, even still there is a thing in my brain that's like "yeah, that's fine, but you're STILL NOT PERFECT"

i wish i was kidding

every tiny thing i do, things that most people would never even consider, i torture myself over

it kind of sucks!

Grape posted:

It's really strange that this forum full of Gen X people routinely inflates their worthless generation as both morally superior to the hated Boomer and also the hated Millennial.

"No no no you see being the generation of Ok Soda was actually a noble existence that meant something I mean nothing."

The General posted:

I disagree. I could be stealing from my roomates, murdering people in my free time (that would be a lot of murders), or going out to bars and looking to start a fight. There are a lot of ways to be an overall detractor or bad person, and I consider myself at least a decent if not good person by not partaking in those activities.

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Constantly. And when you don't live up to your own expectations of progress it's devastating!

Sitting Here posted:

I guess I could have qualified that a little more. I work professionally with a population that at any given time may or may not include people who have been convicted and imprisoned for crimes ranging from stupid to gnarly. I also work with people who exist on the fringe of the law, who do things that the average person might find unpleasant or immoral. Some of them are drat good people and I'd go to bat for them any day of the week. But I'd have an understandably hard time convincing anyone else to see them the way I do.

On the other hand, I sometimes come into contact with conscientious types who go through all the outward motions of goodness (charity, volunteerism, community activism, etc), who also harbor really gross opinions, or do really gross things. As with the above, it would be hard for me to convince others they were not good, because they go through the correct motions.

So I guess when I say it's a meaningless descriptor, what I mean is that people are really complicated and the good/bad dichotomy is very reductive. The OP's version of a "good" person is pretty facile.

Space Kablooey posted:

gen x again telling everyone how much they dont care

if you really didnt care you wouldnt post about this at all op

Sitting Here posted:

yeah sorry i wasn't trying to imply that i, sitting here, thought the word good shouldn't be used ever. Describe things and/or people as good all you want!!

I think all humans owe it to each other to treat one another with grace and compassion and understanding regardless of how hip and cool those actions are.

e: i also feel like i gotta point out, a lot of people equate the law with morality which is why people marginalized by the legal system fall through the cracks so easily

BigBadSteve posted:

OP, only the ignorant attempt to categorise certain people as "good". It's not for man to judge.

However some people do make an effort, at least part of the time, to be better people, which includes considering others.

Psychopaths, aka sociopaths, and assholes generally will of course disagres. And based on what you wrote, you are clearly a sociopath and or a real rear end in a top hat.

I have no interest in your response as it will be more rantings from a diseased individual. You will feel obliged to make one here anyway, since silence for you is intolerable, it gives you a creeping realisation of just how hosed up you've become from your choices.

Karma is unavoidable, and there will be a lot coming your way, if you choose to live long enough. Wishing you all self knowledge and attraction to the light. And the justice you deserve.

Peggy Edson posted:

Ban the op for being a cowardly piece of poo poo

Bula Vinaka posted:

AcidCat posted:

I guess I'm a monster, but I really don't care? I tip well. I always go out of my way to be nice to retail/restaurant/service workers. I am kind and supportive of my young adult children, I love them to death and would do anything for them and my very small circle of friends and family.

The Walrus posted:

thinking back ellisd was always kind of the proto three olives

Valko posted:

Do you remember that time he had cybersex with his unwitting uncle, revealed who he was and then blackmailed him by threatening to show the chatlogs to his wife?

Valko posted:

Do you remember that time he had cybersex with his unwitting uncle, revealed who he was and then blackmailed him by threatening to show the chatlogs to his wife?

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

All of those old "Oh my god, I've become my parents!!!" jokes/cliches/predictions apply almost elusively to Gen X. Boomers certainly didn't worry about turning into their parents. In modern times, that stuff has fallen out of use almost entirely, since it's pretty clear that the stereotypical Millenials won't be turning into their parents after all (because they can't goddamn afford to).

AcidCat posted:

Coming of age in the late 80's/early 90's, it was a different time. Morality was for the religious fringe, and to be mocked. Our concerns were what music genres you listened to, how you dressed, what drugs you did and how much booze you could drink. We cared about our own curated social circles and scorned all others. This being Southern California, this was not about race or sexual orientation, enjoying the wrong kind of music would make you a pariah, the Other, all other differences that take primacy these days were almost irrelevant.

This crucible infects and informs my daily mores still to this day.

Am I a "Good Person"?

I don't care about things that don't directly affect me. Climate Change? Who gives a gently caress unless my home is flooded and my PS5 rendered inert due to water damage. Homeless? Whatever. Your life, your problem. Voting? Politics? Disengaged, can't muster an emotion. Just not down with OPP, Other People's Problems.

I guess I'm a monster, but I really don't care? I tip well. I always go out of my way to be nice to retail/restaurant/service workers. I am kind and supportive of my young adult children, I love them to death and would do anything for them and my very small circle of friends and family.

But outside of that I really don't give a gently caress.

Roast me goons, drunk and ready for it. Or ignore this poo poo and don't care, in which case I can obviously relate.

Bula Vinaka posted:

AcidCat posted:

Coming of age in the late 80's/early 90's, it was a different time. Morality was for the religious fringe, and to be mocked. Our concerns were what music genres you listened to, how you dressed, what drugs you did and how much booze you could drink. We cared about our own curated social circles and scorned all others. This being Southern California, this was not about race or sexual orientation, enjoying the wrong kind of music would make you a pariah, the Other, all other differences that take primacy these days were almost irrelevant.

This crucible infects and informs my daily mores still to this day.

Am I a "Good Person"?

I don't care about things that don't directly affect me. Climate Change? Who gives a gently caress unless my home is flooded and my PS5 rendered inert due to water damage. Homeless? Whatever. Your life, your problem. Voting? Politics? Disengaged, can't muster an emotion. Just not down with OPP, Other People's Problems.

I guess I'm a monster, but I really don't care? I tip well. I always go out of my way to be nice to retail/restaurant/service workers. I am kind and supportive of my young adult children, I love them to death and would do anything for them and my very small circle of friends and family.

But outside of that I really don't give a gently caress.

Roast me goons, drunk and ready for it. Or ignore this poo poo and don't care, in which case I can obviously relate.

Grape posted:

It's extremely funny to think also that the OP's all important musical identity was probably some kind of lovely skate-punk.

Wordicuffs posted:

Maybe lay off the booze

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Ah you’re gen x. That explains everything frankly.

Nigmaetcetera posted:

Yeah, I get it. I grew up with the understanding that the more detached and unflappable you were, the cooler you would be considered by society. At some point things changed, and I hate it. It was a loving bait and switch. There are a finite number of things I can care about without giving myself a horrible panic attack, and I hit my limit probably 25 years ago. If I started caring about social justice, or climate change, or wealth inequality, or any serious problems, I would just be constantly agonizing over my inability to do anything about them.