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Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


More clarification:
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1493311203434807305?s=20&t=WBmarjnzb24fCYHX7G0e0g

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Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Paladinus posted:

See, you need like one person who understands Ukrainian. Doesn't even have to speak the language, just understand it. And somehow CNN and NBC fail to have one person like that when reporting on a presidential address.

Ukrainian is not the language of empire!

You could pay a returned peace corps volunteer in beers to do it.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Red and Black posted:

You really shouldn't though. The Taliban offered to turn Bin Laden over. The entire war could have easily been avoided.

You realize these are part of Russia, yeah?

What is it with you and these thought terminating cliches?

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1493623129180196872?s=20&t=lbRngFppA6jQu5GRKYFmmw

https://twitter.com/ichbinilya/status/1493580244502171651?s=20&t=lbRngFppA6jQu5GRKYFmmw

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


To be fair, there was always a high chance that the Privatbank ATM in my town just wouldn't work or not have enough money. Especially during holidays.
Oschadbank was more reliable that way when I had to pay rent.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1493729979766562817?s=20&t=Khog1litKGIX_kqAWfdZ8Q

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

Now that some hawks are starting to finally acknowledge that this war isn't actually going to happen we can think about how decades from now all the guns, positive press, and training we gave the brave Mujahideen warriors of the Azov Battalion will have no long term negative effects for either the politics or people of Ukraine or the surrounding regions and will never blow back. Thankfully there's no precedent I can think of that might hint about the outcome.

The war in the east started by Russia might be the precedent you're looking for. You don't have to make people guess.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

Are you trying to reference Crimea, Chechnya, or Georgia? I mean I think I made it pretty obvious that I was referencing Afghanistan in the 80's but I didn't think I needed to spell the joke out that much.

I'm talking about the conflict in the Donbas started by Russia that, once reached a stalemate, had an unfortunate effect on weapons and munitions making their way back to Central and Western Ukraine.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1494337218441142281?s=20&t=GI3wFV7kLJ_dId16HHNWNw
Not sure what will come of this.

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1494337646188916747?s=20&t=GI3wFV7kLJ_dId16HHNWNw
As someone who worked in Ukrainian schools and works in early childhood now, what a stupid loving thing.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1494406719836930054?s=20&t=vK8XlZoOMl-qo_cD_GT63A

Obviously, they'd have to be allowed to join first.

PDF has more information for those who can read Ukrainian.

Page 9 asks if Ukraine should withdraw from Minsk if Russia recognizes DNR/LNR. 55% say yes.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


BoldFace posted:

Russian photo op of children being evacuated from Donetsk.

https://twitter.com/GazetaRu/status/1494696096878276622

Orphans, no less.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Explosives rigged to blow in buildings in Donetsk to start false flag

If you don't read Ukrainian, you can click on the tweet and there is a translate option.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


White House press briefing has started. Cyberattacks topic atm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HycneIX8Zos

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


A big flaming stink posted:

Sorry when did this happen ?

Read the thread a few pages back and you'll see plenty of sources and posts discussing things, like the shelling of a kindergarten yesterday.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


A big flaming stink posted:

Sorry again, but how does that constitute a "false flag"?

like I won't argue that's pretty hosed but that doesn't appear anywhere close to the definition of false flag, as far as I understand it

Tell us your definition of a false flag then so we can figure out why you're having such a hard time understanding what's going on in the Donbas.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1494925173224583169?s=20&t=Y9CPeuE2F609Ai5YYJ4fQg

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1494919339249651713?s=20&t=Y9CPeuE2F609Ai5YYJ4fQg

Was hoping things would stall or at least cool down, but alas.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


SA's own Brown Moses stepping in to confirm of course it's all faked:
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1495069721070342148?s=20&t=uEccVLiilpfttwQaA6O7Aw

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Rodiel posted:

This rear end in a top hat is part of the problem!

This is what you think about everyone who disagrees with your point of view.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


cinci zoo sniper posted:

Has anyone seen any pictures of the building allegedly damaged by Ukrainian grad fire in Rostov oblast’?

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1495077801136992266?s=20&t=uEccVLiilpfttwQaA6O7Aw

I think this might be it, but I can't tell for sure.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Red and Black posted:

Yeah but they were in 2014 and look at all the damage they did. They’re basically responsible for the civil war

Nazis are pro EU/NATO while also sniping protesters at Maidan?

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1495405260118138883?s=20&t=wJT3dm30CRkBxuYOaw3sVQ

They'd still have the euro!

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1495463308404695043?s=20&t=nOJtzAlnz2IyrHNU9aWLEA

More evidence of young men getting wrapped up into Putin's Civ game.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Discendo Vox posted:

I know Miller, but is there a reason to think this text source is credible other than that he's sharing it?

It's Eastern Europe: All bets are off on credibility to a certain extent. It's more that Miller has on the ground contacts in the Donbas adding context to the bigger story.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1495817916960448513?s=20&t=6v7n83CqHGbWQpJTNhIKhA

Scholz is dismayed. What bullshit.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


And from Miller:
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1495821982750973952?s=20&t=6v7n83CqHGbWQpJTNhIKhA

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Rad Russian posted:

I think the remaining hope now is that Biden says "no NATO in Ukraine ever" and Putin takes this as a win and goes home. Although I'm sure lots of people will continue to argue that tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians dying is a good sacrifice to make to ensure the freedom of NATO membership.

No one is arguing that except you unless you want to go back and cite the caricatures you've concocted in your head.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1495849573994188804?s=20&t=0G3vetpwOdHFq_1mQOrh7A

Everyone bring notes on the Putin speech

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1495856986478583812?s=20&t=Ru3ztTGZ4TCCsVcFqttKsA

Only report on this I've seen.

My eyesight is damaged after seeing just how unprepared the EU seemed to be for this. I suppose if you buy into rational actor theory then this is all part of some big game and not a man losing his mind.

Oh and Mission Accomplished:
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1495858031220961292?s=20&t=U_PY2V30teFvBEn2QBhD2g

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/maryilyushina/status/1495870954647560197?s=20&t=x1JUZ0FqEq014mi40aOhzg

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1495872290256523264?s=20&t=x1JUZ0FqEq014mi40aOhzg

The game being that they're not part of Ukraine anymore according to Russia.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1495891341372542988?s=20&t=T5pziJlwRCW7hgkzgo3ALg

UN Security Council puts their phones on silent.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


V. Illych L. posted:

idk i'm not an international diplomat

How would you handle negotiating with Putin after his speech today?

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


V. Illych L. posted:

the speech isn't that material imo, the main problem is the massive escalation of russian soldiers openly violating ukrainian sovereignty. i honestly don't know how we get back from this, there are far too many moving pieces

I disagree Putin's attitude towards Ukraine is immaterial. He is a true believer in that they should not exist. And their existence is a stain on Russian history.
Therefore any demands that come from him and the Kremlin are not made in good faith or has any interest in a peaceable situation between Russia and Ukraine.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1495916564272590852?s=20&t=P7LwMezpqaY7p4a2_Ye_gw

Really can't express how surreal this feels with having friends in Ukraine. I also get sad thinking about all my students who are either in Slovakia or czechia for school or in Kyiv.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1496014521307213824?s=20&t=oBSkHBgxVAuaEi4Rq1rBfQ

I have to think that battle line is still mined to hell and back.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Depends. Is Ukraine party to all the international agreements prohibiting land mines? And if they are, do they regret it now?

Do not mistake this post for an endorsement of the use of land mines.

Those areas in Eastern Ukraine are said to be the most mined in the world according to a UN report I think. Not sure which side though.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/AP/status/1496152850090663943?s=20&t=GdhIAk7Xko-lss9Nng4dsA

Not sure if this was posted earlier as it's early AM on pacific time.

White House now calling it an invasion.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/dsupervilleap/status/1496156553010888705?s=20&t=a_QjUYpKN6OyZVzuK13YzA

Will this be announcing sanctions from US side?
Calling it an invasion means the more "severe" sanctions kick in.

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Gripweed posted:

We can not allow a Cringe Gap

Is that Scholz pornhub username?

Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1496080753360265222?s=20&t=ExvvmY9yEJxaX8Ap6nsiig

I still think Ukraine is playing this right.

And visual context for Putin's border delirium:
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1496163840567951361?s=20&t=ExvvmY9yEJxaX8Ap6nsiig

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Shes Not Impressed
Apr 25, 2004


Grouchio posted:

So he intends to occupy Kiev?

It's Kyiv, by the way.

And US Intelligence has asserted that is Putin's grand plan.

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