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Also, consider that the people you've been training would likely have taken on their roles regardless of training or no training. You helped them be better at saving lives, you gave them the tools and knowledge they needed to give themselves the biggest chance to come out of this alive and intact, you gave them an outsider to share their life's stories and their personality with. Through you, they still live on in people's hearts. Also, I don't know if there is already a system in place for this, but you could look into suggesting a system where the trainers who are burning out get to set up a pipeline where they train the new cadre of trainers. This way you can share your knowledge and survive emotionally as well. Soldiers share the burdens because no one can hold all of this within them alone. This will also give the new trainers a group of people to talk to who "get them" when they mourn as you do now. SerthVarnee fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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I was about to suggest you could send a lot of our corrupt politicians to just do an enlistment as an E1 11B at 3ID, but that's some cruel and unusual poo poo.
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i wonder if this could also be a solution to a bunch of the Rada not showing up to vote okay not really, but the article's notable in its own right. two years of martial law (and the accompanying inability to hold elections), the various stresses of being a wartime government, and restrictions on resignations for non-medical reasons have resulted in a lot of parliament getting burnt out and just not bothering to show up and vote on lower-priority bills
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Tehdas posted:It could get far worse, imagine if Trump gets in, he could: It's not really DOOMy, he's basically outright stated or heavily implied he'd do all of those things (except, as ntoed, maybe the actual aid to Russia part, because Putin wouldn't want that due to it making them look weak).
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Aoi posted:It's not really DOOMy, he's basically outright stated or heavily implied he'd do all of those things (except, as ntoed, maybe the actual aid to Russia part, because Putin wouldn't want that due to it making them look weak). Just have Obama tweet that Trump couldn't support Ukraine militarily and watch his brain worms do exactly that.
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not caring here posted:I was about to suggest you could send a lot of our corrupt politicians to just do an enlistment as an E1 11B at 3ID, but that's some cruel and unusual poo poo. Back before he was a gropey Senator and was just a probably-gropey comedy writer, Al Franken specifically had a bit about a unit full of Republican chickenhawks being sent on a mission. It obviously did not go ell.
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defenceblog website posted:According to the Militarnyi news agency, Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) has successfully used a new type of suicide drone equipped with target auto-tracking to strike Russian air defense systems. https://defence-blog.com/ukraine-uses-new-type-of-suicide-drones-against-russian-missile-systems/?amp There's a video on that page showing various manned Russian AA vehicles going boom, no gore. Also, the Fallout series on Amazon is being released at 6pm PT today. goomsnarr fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Apr 10, 2024 |
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psydude posted:I went to a performance by the Ukrainian National Symphony and the Kharkhiv Opera the other night. After the finale, they all took the stage and sang the Ukrainian National anthem while holding a Ukrainian flag. There wasn't a single dry eye in the entire theatre. We recently saw Madame Butterfly by the Ukrainian National Opera and they did the same. My goodness it was powerful. gently caress putin so hard.
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Excerpt from prepared posture statement from the Commander of USEUCOM for a HASC hearing today. Yes, the USEUCOM point of view is also an opportunity to make their case to congress with regard to funding/emphasis, so someone could argue reading this alone without reading posture statements that are more directly concerned with competition in other theaters/domains is unfair, but seems worthwhile to read what is being said on the hill this week regarding Russian capability after 2+ years of conflict in Ukraine since the renewed invasion in February of 2022. Video of full hearing here: https://armedservices.house.gov/hearings/full-committee-hearing-us-military-posture-and-national-security-challenges-europe-0 Commander, USEUCOM prepared opening statement: https://armedservices.house.gov/sites/republicans.armedservices.house.gov/files/USEUCOM%20GEN%20Cavoli%20CPS_HASC_2024.pdf quote:42 Russia remains a capable threat beyond Ukraine, and it’s necessary to examine what
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GD_American posted:Back before he was a gropey Senator and was just a probably-gropey comedy writer, Al Franken specifically had a bit about a unit full of Republican chickenhawks being sent on a mission. It obviously did not go ell. almost all of the allegations against franken were from his time as a comedian, many of them specifically from USO tours
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https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1778392918388019661quote:The European Parliament has refused to approve funding for the EU Council until Ukraine is provided with new #Patriots, MEP and former Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt said. Makes me proud to be a European.
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How many governments are going to be paralyzed over Ukraine aid disputes? Just give them the loving weapons.
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Subjunctive posted:How many governments are going to be paralyzed over Ukraine aid disputes? Just give them the loving weapons. "We need those weapons here at home in case we need to hold off the three adult Russian men in uniform not currently fighting in Ukraine."
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Subjunctive posted:How many governments are going to be paralyzed over Ukraine aid disputes? Just give them the loving weapons. Game recognize game. Even if they're not being straight up directly funded by some Russian money, authoritarian assholes around the globe have a pretty good sense of the way the winds are blowing when it comes to taking power. Keeping Russia in the game gives them a pretty solid boost to their playbook of flood the zone with poo poo, destabilize everything, seize any power you can.
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Wild how two of the biggest go-tos for criticizing the US MIC, the Bradley and the Patriot, are now being urged to the front for their capabilities. I know both are bullshit, but even I at some point was poisoned by Pentagon Wars and Patriot bashing.* Not to say we haven't had grift and boondoggles, but it's just a wild turn to see the EU parliament refusing to fund itself unless they get Patriots to Ukraine. *I have a friend who knows way more about Patriots than I do, and apparently they did have serious problems when they were first used (Including that "return to sender" problem we saw with Russian anti-air missiles), but that they got ironed out in later iterations.
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mlmp08 posted:Excerpt from prepared posture statement from the Commander of USEUCOM for a HASC hearing today. Yes, the USEUCOM point of view is also an opportunity to make their case to congress with regard to funding/emphasis, so someone could argue reading this alone without reading posture statements that are more directly concerned with competition in other theaters/domains is unfair, but seems worthwhile to read what is being said on the hill this week regarding Russian capability after 2+ years of conflict in Ukraine since the renewed invasion in February of 2022. This is completely off topic, but when the gently caress did "exquisite" become such a common buzzword for describing military tech? Granted, I'm just a reservist, but every brief I've read or been at in the last 10 months regarding R&D or S&T (which is all of them since my unit is with the Office of Naval Research) has that word plastered all over it. What the gently caress does it even mean?!
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AlternateNu posted:This is completely off topic, but when the gently caress did "exquisite" become such a common buzzword for describing military tech? Granted, I'm just a reservist, but every brief I've read or been at in the last 10 months regarding R&D or S&T (which is all of them since my unit is with the Office of Naval Research) has that word plastered all over it. We use it to stand in for some piece of hardware that requires an extreme amount of precision and attention to detail in its design and manufacturing. Not something that can be commoditized. So when I read quote:…that have allowed it to overcome challenges in acquiring key components, including I interpret that as the sanctions and war have not disrupted Russias most leading edge R&D and highest performance weapons deployment. In this case probably hypersonics.
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Pennsylvanian posted:Wild how two of the biggest go-tos for criticizing the US MIC, the Bradley and the Patriot, are now being urged to the front for their capabilities. I know both are bullshit, but even I at some point was poisoned by Pentagon Wars and Patriot bashing.* Not to say we haven't had grift and boondoggles, but it's just a wild turn to see the EU parliament refusing to fund itself unless they get Patriots to Ukraine. I mean, the M-16 had problems when it was first used, and went on to be wildly successful. Honestly it seems to me just about every time I hear about such and such weapon being crap it turns out to be either untrue or teething problems that are quickly corrected.
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Hyperlynx posted:I mean, the M-16 had problems when it was first used, and went on to be wildly successful. This is LCS erasure.
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Hyperlynx posted:I mean, the M-16 had problems when it was first used, and went on to be wildly successful. Gun was fine from day 1, ammo and doctrine was crap.
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Pennsylvanian posted:Wild how two of the biggest go-tos for criticizing the US MIC, the Bradley and the Patriot, are now being urged to the front for their capabilities. I know both are bullshit, but even I at some point was poisoned by Pentagon Wars and Patriot bashing.* Not to say we haven't had grift and boondoggles, but it's just a wild turn to see the EU parliament refusing to fund itself unless they get Patriots to Ukraine. What I think is the problem with the Bradley is that people kept thinking of it as the next APC after the M113, but it's an IFV. The average person doesn't understand that the APC and IFV are different categories of vehicles that look superficially similar and can do similar things, but are incompatible in their intended roles E: see also: CAS planes
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The Door Frame posted:What I think is the problem with the Bradley is that people kept thinking of it as the next APC after the M113, but it's an IFV. The average person doesn't understand that the APC and IFV are different categories of vehicles that look superficially similar and can do similar things, but are incompatible in their intended roles The confusion is particularly understandable because the Bradley was the first US IFV
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Early early patriot did fine because its mission was originally purely versus aircraft. It got a bad reputation from a rapid software update including handing people the new software disks and “how to” manuals as they got on planes to the middle east for desert shield/storm to add rudimentary counter-missile logic 30+ years ago.
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Stultus Maximus posted:This is LCS erasure. The independence class is probably going to turn out fine and in 10 years you’ll probably be able to add it to the list of systems that with time, money and effort turned out to be good. Although it may end up in direct competition with the constellations when they finally come online and may come off as not enough for the dollar cost in comparison. Then again the first couple of Connie’s are likely to need to serious refining. The freedom class is probably destined to be quietly forgotten until some wargame in 20 or 30 years implements it based on the paper spec and a bunch of internet warriors start demanding it be resurrected. Edit: The whole point of the LCS is to do a moderate threat mission in the Red Sea you maybe need 3 minesweepers, 4 air defense against light threats and 3 surface warfare ships against light attack boats so do you risk 25 billion worth of ships (and gimp your other more important missions like fleet defense) or 2 billion knowing that at least one is probably going to take a hit? Murgos fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Apr 13, 2024 |
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If you're interested in the ramifications of Ukraine's strikes on oil facilities, this week's edition of The Economist has article summing it up https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2024/04/11/ukrainian-drone-strikes-are-hurting-russias-oil-industry The Economist posted:Selling more oil at higher prices ought to be the stuff of dreams for a petrostate. But for Russia it is a sign of a new, punishing phase in its war with Ukraine. Months of Ukrainian drone strikes on refineries have crimped Russia’s ability to produce refined fuels, such as diesel and petrol, and turned the world’s third-largest oil producer into an importer of petrol. Energy firms have tried to pare their losses by selling unrefined oil overseas, pushing exports to a ten-month high in March.
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Murgos posted:The independence class is probably going to turn out fine and in 10 years you’ll probably be able to add it to the list of systems that with time, money and effort turned out to be good. Although it may end up in direct competition with the constellations when they finally come online and may come off as not enough for the dollar cost in comparison. Then again the first couple of Connie’s are likely to need to serious refining. Ok, so 2 LCS then. they're about 600M a pop, an Arleigh Burke is more capable and only a little over 2x the cost. A Connie will ostensibly cost 1.4x an LCS (about a billion), and be way way more capable and survivable, as the problem with the LCS was if it takes a hit everyone's going in the drink, they were unsurvivable against everything but small arms. LCS was not a good investment for its capability, and everyone continuously scratched their heads as to what the point of the vessels was.
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New systems almost always have detractors who focus on some aspect that the previous, fully mature system did better. The F-35 is worse than the F-18 is worse than the F-14 is worse than the F-4 is worse than the F-8 is worse than the F-86 is worse than the P-51 is worse than the P-47 is worse than, I dunno, throwing rocks or something. And then it turns out that they either fix the issues with the new system, or the capabilities the old system did better are no longer as relevant in modern combat. E.G. the A-10 being able to do sick gun runs, vice an F-35 or MQ-9 dropping a JDAM or hellfire into the driver's seat of a technical from 20,000 feet. On the other hand, not every new system eventually gets straightened out, and some of them end up being turds that just can't be polished and the criticism is entirely valid. I think the LCS may eventually be brute-forced into being vaguely functional for certain mission sets, but I doubt it's ever going to be "good" overall. If they had stuck to the ostensible original purpose as a slightly heavier Coast Guard cutter that's never intended to be a front line combatant, it might have worked out, but it got saddled with a ton of feature creep that tried to shoehorn it into roles that it's just not suited for. Especially when it comes at a cost that's a significant portion of a more capable platform.
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orange juche posted:Ok, so 2 LCS then. they're about 600M a pop, an Arleigh Burke is more capable and only a little over 2x the cost. A Connie will ostensibly cost 1.4x an LCS (about a billion), and be way way more capable and survivable, as the problem with the LCS was if it takes a hit everyone's going in the drink, they were unsurvivable against everything but small arms. There is a scenario, that is actually happening now in the red sea, where you need A LOT of hulls. Period. You just need hulls because 1 Burke can't be in 5 places. And it's dangerous because it's relatively close to the shore. And because it's the Burkes picking up most of the work it's causing problems elsewhere with things that it would be better for the Burkes to do but they can't because they are in the red sea. So, the LCS actually has a use case, that is actually happening right now and no one is scratching their heads about it.
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There’s a lot of issues with the LCS, but the fundamental one is that it was a compromise do-everything system where the need for speed and small crewing ended up crowding out everything actually important. The result was a $500 million PT boat. Unfortunately we’re seeing a similar trend happening with the Constellation-class, where we’ve taken a proven and affordable European design and then added so many changes that only about 15% of the original remains. This is after decades of similar gently caress-ups that the Constellation was intended to reset. The Navy just doesn’t know how to build or design ships anymore.
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CainFortea posted:Everytime someone goes to bat for the LCS it boggles me because like...it's a fuckin boat made of metal in the salty ocean with no functional anti-corrosion system. New Jersey is in dry-dock for repairs, Navy should buy some of her lightly used anodes and slap em on.
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Kaal posted:it was a compromise do-everything system Fucks over every program that tries it but the pentagon just can't stop loving that chicken.
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Murgos posted:There is a scenario, that is actually happening now in the red sea, where you need A LOT of hulls. Period. You just need hulls because 1 Burke can't be in 5 places. And it's dangerous because it's relatively close to the shore. And because it's the Burkes picking up most of the work it's causing problems elsewhere with things that it would be better for the Burkes to do but they can't because they are in the red sea. What you mean is "the corvette class of ships has a use case" which is completely true. The LCS was a total garbage fire way to do it.
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Murgos posted:There is a scenario, that is actually happening now in the red sea, where you need A LOT of hulls. Period. You just need hulls because 1 Burke can't be in 5 places. And it's dangerous because it's relatively close to the shore. And because it's the Burkes picking up most of the work it's causing problems elsewhere with things that it would be better for the Burkes to do but they can't because they are in the red sea. You need a lot of hulls that can do that mission. The LCS, either as originally conceived or as currently fielded, is not that ship. Wide area air defense against low cost UAVs and missiles is just a very difficult problem right now with the current state of technology and inventory. If anything, the LCS was supposed to free up DDGs in other areas so that they could be concentrated for that kind of thing.
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Murgos posted:There is a scenario, that is actually happening now in the red sea, where you need A LOT of hulls. Period. You just need hulls because 1 Burke can't be in 5 places. And it's dangerous because it's relatively close to the shore. And because it's the Burkes picking up most of the work it's causing problems elsewhere with things that it would be better for the Burkes to do but they can't because they are in the red sea. There are use cases for corvettes. There are efficiently priced corvettes made by several countries that we could have adapted. The LCS is a horridly overpriced, undercapable application for that use case. edit- wwell, goddamnit beaten pretty much identically
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canyoneer posted:The current administration will probably need little encouragement to buy corvettes I literally believe the Navy's absolute refusal to use the term for any ship it buys is 100% because of the car.
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canyoneer posted:The current administration will probably need little encouragement to buy corvettes I think they're more interested in Trans Ams.
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