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WhatEvil posted:I've gotta be honest I thought there would be some discussion about this. I dunno, it's not really worth discussing is it? Telegraph publish a nonsensical anti-union screed, sun rises in the east. It sucks but I dunno, I'm just immune to it, it's not daft enough to make me chuckle so can't get worked up
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OwlFancier posted:Possibly the first time betteridges law of headlines has been wrong, tbh. "Shocking" "some parts" yeah OK lol. Poland & Hungary are probably the loudest parts but it's not like Denmark doesn't have more than its share of swivel-eyed loons yelling about the invasion of muslamics with their rayguns or whatever the Danish equivalent is, the FN regularly poll as the 2nd or 3rd largest party in France, Austria's 3rd party the FPO are very much the equals of Fidesz & PiS(s) (incidentally, this is a good sentence from the FPO Wikipedia, "Its first leader, Anton Reinthaller, was a former Nazi functionary and SS officer, though the party did not advocate extreme right policies and presented itself as residing in the political centre." Liberalism.txt), & so on, so forth. Anyone shocked that the EU is racist hasn't had racist policies towards refugees for at least as long as I've been paying attention to politics has had their head in the sand for 25 years & is probably dead from oxygen deprivation. The Wicked ZOGA posted:I don't think your mood - or anyone's - is nearly as dependent on externalities as you believe. If you don't think the epidemic of mental health problems, including mood issues, isn't massively impacted on the "externalities" of late capitalism then I've got a boat to sell you, only used once, you'll just need to go pick it up from the floor of the Atlantic & maybe patch a couple of minor dents & holes. Josef bugman posted:I just got my av changed by, I think, the war thread in D&D, so I am a touch sad at that. Sucks. Unfortunately this is just a reminder that basically no part of D&D outside of UKMT is worth engaging with because it's full of prats.
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mediaphage posted:honestly it's true for d&d and cspam both. outside of a handful of threads, one is terminally lib-brained or decorum-poisoned, and the other is completely flat-out insane Most threads around USPOL are garbage, & I generally disagree with a lot of the Leninists in CSPAM, but there are far more threads worth reading there than in D&D. Especially the Doomsday Economics/NUMBER thread, Failing NYT, the Radio War Nerd thread, Elon Musk thread can all be quite amusing, & the UK thread is nice because you can poo poo post & tell libs to gently caress off without dumb Yank mods getting all pissy that you were rude to some twat getting horny about war but it does sort of feel like it's basically UKMT without some posters & with others. The stuff like the Trump thread is deffo deranged but a lot of the bad posters seem largely quarantined to it so it is easy to avoid.
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ThomasPaine posted:wait wasn't it miliband who lost scotland, mostly on the back of the fallout from the indyref? The collapse started in 2007, was slightly forestalled in '10's general election, but it's not all on the shoulders of Labour. The real killing stroke was the independence referendum but the rot had set in well before then. Unlike Jeherrin & Scottish Labour I think that saying Scottish Labour collapsed because of independence is reductive bollocks. The rot started decades ago when Labour were effectively the only party in the most populated parts of the country, so eventually all the grifters & careerists join in & places like Glasgow City Council (& its predecessors) became corrupt as hell & just deeply complacent, even as the East End remained one of the poorest parts of western Europe with one of the lowest life expectancy (I think it might be #1 now for low life expectancy?). The councillors & MPs were often pure loving chancers at best. For every Gordon Brown who actually had a brain inside his skull there were several dozens of people like George Galloway who only bothered to turn up in his constituency when it was time to campaign for re-election & otherwise just didn't give much of a gently caress even as he espoused socialism. Scottish Labour didn't even really have the thing that New Labour down south had where people who in their youth were quite radical turned into loving monsters, like David Blunkett possibly most notably. Even in the decade between the devo referendum & Labour losing power in Scotland they had 2 First Ministers resign in dodgy dealing circumstances (although next to some of the poo poo Boris has pulled it's pretty quaint stuff). There was only a gap for the SNP to fill because of the staggeringly complacency of ScotLab: look at George Robertson's famous quote in 1995, "Devolution will kill Nationalism stone dead". Woops. But gently caress, look at the context of 1995, the Nats had 3 MPs, I'm pretty sure the most they'd had between 1979 & 2015 was 6 (in 74 they won 11 seats, & that was when Scotland had more than 70 MPs). They have only been able to make independence a wedge issue because Scottish Labour have been completely moribund. ScotLab made these circumstances for themselves & between the Blairite attitude of chasing Tory voters in the south east at the expense of lifelong Labour voters in the north of England & Central Belt because "who else do they have to vote for" & the sheer loving lack of talent on their benches (seriously, look at the people who've been party leader north of the border, it's nonentity after nonentity, people lacking charisma, presence, sincerity, ideas or anything else but a sense of entitlement that Labour are the party of government in Scotland & so it'll ever be) because most of the prominent Labour MPs decided to stay at Westminster as Holyrood was viewed as a backwater. And one of the few MPs who wanted to stand for Holyrood, Dennis Canavan, was turned down because he was in the Socialist Campaign Group & you know what New Labour was like. So he ran as an independent and absolutely skelpt the official Labour candidate, getting 55% of the vote while the Blairite approved chancer Ross Martin got 18%. And when Canavan retired in 2007 SNP have won the constituency every time; Labour's chances were scuppered because of right wingers being more obsessed with crushing factional rivals than anything else. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Mar 3, 2022 |
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OwlFancier posted:Hard to imagine george galloway as a labour MP tbh. I've friends who had him as their MP in both Glasgow & London & they both have exactly the same thing to say about him: would only show up when there was an election to fight, & he'd turn up on an open-top double decker bus (I think that detail is right at least) with a microphone & loudspeaker so he couldn't yell at folk to vote for him without risking talking to the plebs. He was probably a sincere socialist at one point but god that was a long time ago & the man has been on an ego trip that puts most MPs to shame
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Miftan posted:Coohoolin has lived in Scotland for most/all of his adult life. I don't know how else you would describe a Scottish person other than "has lived in Scotland for most of their life" (because "hates england" is too broad a category) Yeah, if someone lives in Scotland & wants to be Scottish & isn't a massive landowning parasite then in my book that makes them Scottish regardless of where they grew up or where they were born. Although, talking down Scotland while getting insanely mad if any non-Scot does it is a key component of our national identity so Coohoolin still needs to work on that a bit. Miftan posted:I've lived in the UK for about a decade now and while I don't sound English because I spoke it fluently before, I definitely sound *more* English now than when I moved here. It's not weird, it's just what happens. I have friends who have kids who learned English in certain parts of the UK and sound like they're from there despite their families being from somewhere else. Hell, I've even seen kids from different continents in London who sound like they're from Newcastle because that's where their primary school teacher is from. I have a friend who is from Norwich & despite having never lived in Liverpool & only gone there for nights out he would turn Scouse if around Scousers. It was kind of impressive. Some people have that sort of chameleon thing with their accent & while it might seem a bit silly at first it's not worth fixating on. I remember when I lived in Sheffield for 6 months, in my early 20s, & my accent definitely started getting more Glaswegian. Despite not having lived in Glasgow at that point. Now that was a weird one.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Absolutely it would be weird. My mum was born in America in 1949, moved to the UK (London as well, lol at RP being the “London” accent) in the early 70s and lived here for around 45 years until she died. She picked up a great deal of English in her accent, her American relatives would comment on how “British” she sounded. In fact, if you listened to old recordings of her she sounded noticeably more American in them. But even at the end of her life, she still had a clear amount of not-English in her accent. Things less weird than Coohoolin picking up a local accent: Your obsession with a guy who hasn't posted in the thread regularly in a couple of years.
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keep punching joe posted:The only specifically unique Glasgow accents I can think of is the 'Glasgow Uni' accent which is a sort of weird mid-Atlantic/valley-girl drawl mashed up with with the sort of upper middle class Scots you hear on the West coast. It's just as horrendous as it sounds. loving Newton Mearns man. How can you forget those cunts & their absolutely abominable accent?
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Jedit posted:Yes, you'd have to be a very close and trusted friend and ally of Putin to sit that close to him. He's deathly afraid of COVID, he sits metres away from anyone, regardless of how trusted they are. But yes, I got the joke thank you, I was being a pedant
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Lady Demelza posted:Does anyone have an opinion on the thing on social media about booking AirBnBs in Ukraine? Some of my relatives refuse to donate money to charities and are increasingly frustrated that nobody is willing to drive blankets and bags of rice 1500 miles. They might be on board with donating via booking a 'holiday' in a house that probably doesn't exist any more. I think AirBnB is a dire company driving people out of their homes so no, I'd not advise that.
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Zalakwe posted:Isn't the Independent owned by a Russian oligarch? Uh no, Baron Lebedev, of Hampton in the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames and of Siberia in the Russian Federation was educated in British boarding schools & sits in the House of Lords, how could he be a Russian oligarch? Sure, he was only in England as a kid because his da was spy in residence at the Soviet Embassy in London, and his dad left the KGB in the early 90s to buy a bank (those spy pensions must be pretty generous) and the Italians reckon he never actually left the spy game until after he'd bought an admittedly struggling bank that he's turned around to the point where it owns 11% of Russian flag carrying airline Aeroflot, 44% of airplane manufacturers Ilyushin as well as sizeable chunks of Gazprom, Sberbank & others. What possibly gave you the impression he's an oligarch, don't you know Boris vetted him before raising him to the Lords*? *Kidding, Boris decided to waive the vetting process for him.
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ThomasPaine posted:This all reminds me of every fucker on the BBC insisting on pronouncing chorizo as 'tho-ree-tho' and, like, I get it, but we're not in Valencia and no one is popping into 'prey-a-mange' for a sandwich, why that word specifically??? Tam Paine being like "can you get me some mang-eh toot when you're at Tesco?" I sort of hate that we anglicise foreign words. I blame it for people who say "expresso". It'd be much more fun to talk about Bayern München beating Chelsea last night than Bayern Munich imo or how Putin is sat losing his poo poo in Moskva. I know English isn't the only language that does this NotJustANumber99 posted:i genuinely feel sorry for non english speakers I envy non-English readers because they can't read your posts.
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OwlFancier posted:I say expresso specifically to annoy people and also because it's manky. But all coffee is manky, espresso is best coffee because you can drink it in one & get that hit of caffeine. Probably only works because I'm not a coffee drinker regularly
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Jippa posted:Random question. Bradfield is a civil parish that is next to the city of Sheffield. What's a civil parish? I don't know, English local government is a loving wild mess of layers upon layers. It's a part of Sheffield City Council but is mostly rural, sprawling into the Peak District while also containing some Sheffield suburbs. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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Jippa posted:Yeah in the show I'm watching they are all part of bradfield police and constantly mention the name. I haven't heard them ever say sheffield. Even if I have never visited a (big) place in england I have generally at least heard it mentioned. This was the first time I've had to actually look it up. OK, yeah, Bradfield in Wire in the Blood is a fictional Yorkshire town. It just so happens that there is an actual Bradfield in Yorkshire (well, the villages of Upper & Lower Bradfield)
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SixFigureSandwich posted:Literally so, if (like me) you need to show the various authorities in an area in a map. At least in my home country I can be certain that any part of the country belongs to a municipality, a province, and the national government and they all neatly fit into each other. Unincorporated land in the US is a fun concept too. Can say a lot about Scotland but at least since 1994 we've had unitary local authorities. Before that there were 2 layers from 1975, but before 1975 it was the same mish-mash that had been that way since before the Stewarts were on the throne of Scotland, just like down south.
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Reveilled posted:I do think there's an issue within Ukraine's military of fash groups, but I do not believe it is a problem unique to Ukraine, much in the same way that I do not believe the Labour party under Jeremy Corbyn was uniquely anti-semitic. loving lol at comparing a few cranks to the Azov Battalion, a part of the the Ukrainian version of the TA. That's a hoot.
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fuctifino posted:He did have a regular slot on RT, so he's not adverse to taking Russia's money in exchange for voicing propaganda. I've worked for Capita, it doesn't make me an apologist for that miserable company. Stop calling everyone who disagrees with you a Russian asset lest you turn into a lib with as many holes in your brain as Carole Codswallop, a real life version of Charlie Day in that one conspiracy theory scene of It's Always Sunny. Nigel Farage has plenty to hate him for without engaging in Russiagate drivel. Bad actors sometimes just take money from whoever because they are amoral pieces of poo poo rather than because they are taking part in a complex conspiracy to pervert otherwise perfect liberal democracy forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Mar 11, 2022 |
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Beefeater1980 posted:I mean, if the person giving them the money actually is involved in trying to weaken liberal democracies because their geopolitical opponents happen to be liberal democracies, taking the cash actually is participating in a conspiracy to weaken liberal democracies isn’t it? I don't believe Nigel Farage wants to weaken liberal democracy though. Certainly less than I want to, as a libertarian communist. Nigel Farage wants to reduce the size of the state when it comes to taxes because he's a libertarian but would see an increase of it in regards to border enforcement because he's a nativist racist. But bring a nativist racist who supports cutting the welfare state into a fraction of its already reduced size is hardly incompatible with liberal democracy.
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Noxville posted:The state of this country’s media What was it that Dawn Foster wrote about Coren? Along the lines of if we know who your father is we shouldn't have to also know you. Seems a fair rule
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Private Speech posted:I like tie tops if the bag is strong enough, they tie up the bag tighter. Same tbh
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jiggerypokery posted:I don't care. I don't need to agree with her every last opinion to say that she is paying the price for being one of about 3 people gently caress that, "not my beat" is a garbage excuse for ignoring the rampant misogyny & racism of Gudio until it impacted her personally. She's a typical liberal who only gives a gently caress about anything that directly impacts her. Leaving the EU? Raaaaargh mad. Folk being sanctioned by the DWP & literally starving to death, not figuratively but literally dying because the state found some minor fault and punished them for it? Not my beat. It's loving bollocks, she's got a personal Twitter account, she's able to comment on poo poo outside her "beat" (never mind that The Guardian will let any melt write in their opinion section if they are well known enough & she sure is), but she doesn't because why bother upsetting the applecart? After all, there's a good chance that one of her colleagues worked for Guido (believe Jim Waterson was an intern there) & certainly the way the media is going she will work with more than 1 in the rest of her career. "Look at this picture. It's being shared by lefties despite being made by people who worked for RT!" "OK, but is the image wrong?" "No, but you're being duped into spreading Russian propaganda." "Does the source matter if the material is indisputably true?" "Whatabboutism!" Gosh, I'm glad someone is doing real journalism.
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Dabir posted:I think you've misread her here, I took that as her acknowledging it was a bad reason to not speak up. She's basically paraphrasing that "First they came for" poem. No, I read her right. Now she knows what it's like to be targeted by Guido she thinks its bad. She didn't care until she was. Acknowledging things only when you have first-hand experience of them is not a great character trait & I think it's reasonable to judge someone for that. I mean we're not talking about someone in their mid-20s, we're talking about someone in their late '40s, by any definition a fully grown adult. Jedit posted:Cadwalladr was literally quoting Martin Niemoller. I don't see anyone rushing to say how Niemoller deserved it when the Nazis came for him because he was a liberal oval office. There's not really much of a rush, what with it all being said over several decades, but there's plenty of people who've criticised Niemoller. Not sure about saying he deserved it, but then no one is arguing Cadwalladr deserves to be held in a concentration camp for 7 years either.
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jiggerypokery posted:I have... I've been arguing the entire time that just because the only particular story that Carole is being taken to court over isn't the harbinger that will bring about the great revolution doesn't mean that it isn't a good thing that shouldn't be supported. It's not being blackpilled, it's not nihilism, it's recognising that rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic is a pointless endeavour. The problem isn't Russian money, the problem is money. Rich people. It'd be fine Codswallop was arguing that dealing with Russian money in politics as a first step but she's not, she doesn't seem overly concerned about Yanks using their money to push an anti-LGBTQ+ agenda with anti-trans activism as the thin edge of the wedge, or British newspaper owners using their power to influence politics to blaming immigrants for problems caused by the destruction of entire industries courtesy of the economic policies pushed by those newspaper owners, neoliberalism. Part of why I find the whole thing so aggravating is that it takes away agency from a lot of working class people who did vote for Brexit & that's counter-productive. Yes, rich people used propaganda to influence the referendum, indisputably. But they still only won the referendum because of a deep sense of alienation from modern society among a chunk of the working class that left them ripe to listen to nativist narratives, a political spasm of frustration. From where I stand it seems far more important to end that sense of alienation, rediscover a positive sense of community & yeah, class solidarity rather than worrying about "Russian oligarchs". The problem isn't foreign interference in British politics, the problem is rich people's interference in politics all over the globe.
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The Saviour posted:I conisder myself reasonably aware of UK politics, but thanks to the weird thread discussion today I found out about a military plot against Harold Wilson? Where can inread more than on Wikipedia about it. People were absolutely convinced he was a Soviet agent. There's a BBC documentary which is still on Youtube, The Plot Against Harold Wilson.
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fuctifino posted:I'm not disagreeing with most of everyone's points, but to totally dismiss Russia's influence over the Brexit vote is disingenuous to say the least. I'm of the belief that we would have narrowly voted to have remained within the EU had Russian troll farms, with their microtargeted ads and untold millions in dark money, had not become involved. I'm of the belief that if Christina Hendricks only got to know me she'd fall madly in love. That's the great things about belief. Focusing on "dark money" at the expense of other reasons we left the EU, such as the amazing campaign that seemed to fail to come up with even 1 positive reason for staying, let's the remainers off the hook in a way they don't deserve. jiggerypokery posted:The reason I think it matters isn't borne of some psudo-racist ruso-phobia. It's not about who is more offensive. In 2022 "Russian influence" means Putin. He literally is the state. The types of things Putin wants to achieve determines the particular "british native" he is willing to support and further empower and the types of real consequences that has on lives of people they have power over. If you think that's tedious, imagine reading someone stanning for Codswallop! (I'm teasing) I'm still not really getting why Putin is a more corrosive influence on Britain than Rupert Murdoch or whichever Lord Rothermere runs the Mail these days. They are all pushing their agenda which is counter to the interests of the working class. OK, Vlad wants to have Britain leave the EU because it weakens the EU & their ability to stand up to growing resurgence of Russian imperialism, right? We agree on this. We merely disagree on the importance (& the uniqueness. Every country tries to influence others through indirect methods. America, China, Britain, Russia, Poland, etc. You think the US government gives money to Brown Moses to look at Google Maps & Wikipedia for any reason other than it intersects with their geopolitical interests?) relative to other factors. Like decades of British (& Australian) owned newspapers making foreigners the scapegoat for every ill in this country because neoliberalism benefits them too much to actually tell the truth.
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jiggerypokery posted:When Putin's regime is clandestine supporting the exact same cunts pushing terfery you either have to succumb to accellerationism (which is loving insane) or fight it in some small way See, this is the actual difference between the two sides in this discussion: you think it's something with 2 choices & I don't. I think there is a 3rd choice, make a positive case for something better and different. Something that addresses the root causes that make things lovely enough that all that Русский дезинформация has an audience willing to listen. Although if you give me the binary choice between being an accelerationist and being Russiagate brained then clearly things in the country are bad enough that accelerationism is actually a reasonable response because at that point you're better to hit rock bottom tomorrow so that building something new can begin than drag it out for 10 more years of managed decline before hitting the floor. It's really loving dumb I can (I think) spell дезинформация & not be so sure about accelerationism. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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jiggerypokery posted:You aren't alone. Careful when using the clichés of the fash. And I can post links to a million dumb loving libs like Alistair Campbell who think the sun shines out of Carole's arse, what a stupid distraction. Fascists and Communists both support the end of liberal capitalism that doesn't make Communists wrong. Two people with extremely different solutions can still diagnose the same flaw while having wildly differing solutions to that. Borrovan posted:In my opinion the fact that lots of people & groups interfere with our lovely democracy is not a valid reason not to pay attention when Russia does it Ruddy good job that's no oval office's point then (here at least). Mild difference between saying "ignore Russia" & "focusing on Russia to the exclusion of everyone else is dumb"
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Jakabite posted:E: ^^^ so Cadwalladr should either report on all sources of political manipulation in the UK equally, or none at all? Yes, that's it, you're very smart. It's the same defence you see of Bellingcat, "oh, so just because they focus on Iraq & Syria & almost completely ignore Yemen means we should ignore them?". But really it doesn't matter because I'll just be accused of being a nihilist for not agreeing that this is any more important than other forms of corruption. Somehow going "actually I think focusing solely on Russians is at risk of blaming all our woes on foreigners and it's not like the British need an excuse to be xenophobic. That might not be your intention but throw a stone down a wintery slope and it could turn into an avalanche that wipes out a village, regardless if that was your intention. Things snowball out of control sometimes. I also worry that it gives a pass to the rich Brits causing equal damage, be they Arron Banks or the Duke of Westminster or whoever the hell else. As a socialist I think the problem is rich people, which is a category that includes wealthy Russians as well as Mohamed Al Fayed & Bernie Ecclestone to name 2 non-Russian examples from the past who were directly linked to corruption in British politics. radmonger posted:While there is that, I almost suspect some people in this thread have inside knowledge that someone in Corbyn’s inner circle took Putin’s money in return for deliberately tanking the 2019 election. That’s the only thing that can see that would would be explain the level of defensiveness on this topic, the avoidance of common sense concrete left wing arguments based on solidarity by those being shelled by the rich in favour of vague liberal whataboutery. gently caress me that is a spectacularly stupid post. On multiple levels. Probably on every level imaginable and some that are beyond human imagination and comprehension. Why would anyone here be happy to cover up for Jeremy Corbyn if he intentionally shat the election? I shat on Jeremy Corbyn for being a weak leader who ultimately was too much of an appeaser to even recreate the appeal of being one of the few sincere people at Westminster that got him the leadership originally. As an aside, it's extremely hilarious that you even consider this a possibility when Corbyn was speaking out on the risks of dirty Russian money and of Vladimir Putin from more or less the day he took office, well before Saint Carole noticed. Meanwhile Tony Blair, hero of British liberals, was declaring in 2014 to forget Ukraine so we can ally with Putin against radical Islam. But it's Corbyn who you are making up bizarre conspiracy theories about while having enough of a brass nose of accusing others of being conspiracy theorists on this! Belter. Honestly, liberals are utterly demented in their obsession with Corbyn. He's irrelevant, even his fellow Labour left MPs have shown impressively little solidarity with him, your side won, but that's not enough, he must be slurred and fully crushed so no one ever again has the gall to be a socialist Labour leader.
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jiggerypokery posted:It was clearly satire if you actually read what they were saying. Most people got it. It's radmonger, no way I'm not taking that at face value. When you've a history of posting the most liberal brainworm inspired rot & then you post some peak liberal brainworm rot I'm taking it sincerely. I get that's hyperbolic & all that but it's still loving deranged how much liberals are obsessed with the bloke who thinks war is bad & so is poverty. jiggerypokery posted:We are at an almost unique moment where people might actually care. How many times has taking xenophobia & turning it to a positive outcome actually worked? I'm not aware of many which I hope explains some of my scepticism.
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radmonger posted:Given your demonstrated inability to understand that post, what makes you think you correctly read the others that gave you that opinion? I called you a liberal because every post of yours I've read over the years in these UKMT threads gave me the impression that you are a liberal. Are you saying you don't support the continued existence of the free market? Apologies if so. Then again, you're the guy who responded to this paragraph from a Spectator column by Boris Johnson quote:Looking at the diverse wedding crowd, and thinking of this planet’s multicultural future, I have been brooding about carrots. It is a fact that the British carrot used to be white. It was a pale, delicate, Anglo-Saxon root. As anyone who has eaten Indian carrot halva will know, Indian carrots are red, the colour of blood oranges. It probably follows that at some stage the dark red carrots of the subcontinent cross-fertilised with our indigenous carrots, to produce the modern orange cross. Yes, folks, the next time you chomp on a carrot, reflect that it is a half-caste. It is the result of rampant miscegenation. Look at the modern British carrot, and you behold the future of the human race. with the Galaxy Brain take that "he's clearly arguing that miscegenation is a good thing" as if anyone who have ever ranted about "miscegenation" has ever thought it was a positive. So I'm probably wasting my time. Anyway, reading a bit of that thread was a horrible mistake because now I just feel depressed remembering a time before the leader of the opposition was utterly worthless & there was at least a vague prospect of something better being possible in my lifetime. Ho hum. Also, people squatting in billionaires empty properties are absolutely & always to be commended. Even though it's obvious that yes the police will evict them because nothing is more important to their job than enforcing property rights still the right thing to do entirely. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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radmonger posted:I suppose I’m probably cautiously in favour of the recent reforms in Cuba that permitted the existence of family owned resteraunts and so on. Does that count? As I said, I don’t claim to be the leftiest person in the world. I generally think the rules of society should be collectively set by the people, ideally peacefully. I don’t particularly buy the idea, shared by liberals and communists, that there is some form of metaphysical true knowledge of what the right rules _should be_ that overrides that process. It was an example of you being a liberal and more "oh cool, worse than I remember", although of course liberalism has historically been very compatible with racism.
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Anarchists, still great. Police, still have a primary function of protecting property rights of the haves. Predictable outcome but still enraging. Failing to oppose the Coalition anti-squatting law is one of those poo poo policies of the Miliband years.
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Jeherrin posted:If you think you've read the meltiest take... think again. Finkelstein is a loving twat
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Brendan Rodgers posted:If we're banning mathematical concepts now then after banning algorithms and encryption I want the tories to sign a law saying Pi is now just 3 Pie is just something you eat
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jiggerypokery posted:It's not time to play "no true scotsman" and "which centrist oval office can get in the sea in which order". I don't really care what order they do it in so long as they do it tbqh Pablo Bluth posted:Or organising Stop the War protests. Sorry, if there's a discussion to be had then we can have it while the topic is newsworthy or we won't have it all because that's how the news cycle works. Acknowledging one thing that may have, amongst others, been part of Putin’s insane mental calculation that lead to him deciding to go to war in Ukraine in March, during the rasputitsa, is not justifying anything or defending anyone, we're not children, we should be able to talk about these things without taking childlike leaps of logic. Acknowledging the Red Scare & general Cold War lunacy that drove American foreign policy across the 3rd world isn't an attempt to justify them for getting involved in Vietnam. Acknowledging western imperialism in the Middle East & the preference for stable but insane monarchs over democratically elected officials isn't an attempt to justify 9/11.
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