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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

je1 healthcare posted:

That's a cool premise, it's a shame George Lucas couldn't coherently tell it. Because (like the Wachowskis), he's an amazing technical director that can't write a script and needs people around him to keep his worst creative impulses in check.

Yeah the actual writing is way better in Clone Wars, especially later seasons, than in anything Lucas personally did

The matrix is a fine script though. The first one.

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Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

The Sex Matrix

20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017
ive never seen lion king

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Clown wars was for kids why'd you even watch that?!?

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000

I LITERALLY SLEEP IN A RACING CAR. DO YOU?
p.s. ask me about my subscription mattress
Ultra Carp

:mamacita:

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004


:hmmyes:

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Big Beef City posted:

I've always wondered why Trinity wore that skin tight leather/latex suit while she was doing a Matrix run it seems like that would restrict her movement you'd think she'd want like sweat pants and a hoodie or like a karate uniform to look tough or just go full nude if she wanted to be sexy and keep range of motion. The whole 'wrap me as tight as possible in bondage gear that really makes it hard for me to move, great thanks' just didn't make a lot of sense to me. Then again I'm not a cybernet action ninja woman doing kung fu flips in a virtual world against renegade computer office workers.

Ghost in the shell anime did this. In 1995 when I was a kid it was p sweet seeing anime titties and karate kicks

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

Thread update: I have now watched The Matrix. Silly, isn't it? I did enjoy it though.

I can't believe that poo poo was solved by true love's first kiss, gtfoh lmao

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Yeah neo kissed agent smith and then entered him

Seaniqua
Mar 12, 2004

"We'll see how the first year goes. But people better get us now, because we're going to keep getting better and better."
you watched the only good one, watch the rest through youtube recaps or just pretend they don't exist

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

Colonel Cancer posted:

Yeah neo kissed agent smith and then entered him

:madmax:

more incoherent thoughts
- the film does away with characterization in favour of more guns, which I get, we can figure out for example that Neo's life sucks when he gets chewed out by his boss for being late for work. He was actually late for work though.
- the film does ask the question I had in the OP, and answers it with 'yeah but this guy's a big stupid jerk with lovely facial hair'. You don't even have to go back to the Matrix though, you can just have 3D ultraporn downloaded directly into your brainstem 24/7
- I actually found the NairPod reveal scene quite unsettling, and I think it was the late 90s CGI that did it. I loving love late 90s CGI
- Neo and Trinity do actually kill a bunch of real humans huh

A Terrible Person
Jan 8, 2012

The Dance of Friendship

Fun Shoe

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

- the film does away with characterization in favour of more guns, which I get, we can figure out for example that Neo's life sucks when he gets chewed out by his boss for being late for work. He was actually late for work though.

For whatever metaphors the film's themes are meant to explore, it's still framed as a Gen-X parable wherein having to conform to "the Man's" desires and expectations is the greatest sin/tragedy imaginable.

Which also explains why killing the various mooks is acceptable: they sold out without questioning it and are therefore expendable pawns.

Gen-X are fascinating.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

A Terrible Person posted:

For whatever metaphors the film's themes are meant to explore, it's still framed as a Gen-X parable wherein having to conform to "the Man's" desires and expectations is the greatest sin/tragedy imaginable.

Which also explains why killing the various mooks is acceptable: they sold out without questioning it and are therefore expendable pawns.

Gen-X are fascinating.

Ironically, using the film (or any piece of media) as a shortcut to understand an entire generation of people lands you in the same pitfall that the film's themes encourage. That data and self-identity replace experiences. And that relationships don't matter- Thomas Anderson had no one in his life that he was afraid of abandoning in pursuit of an identity. That obtaining the identity itself is what will get people to recognize you and a woman to fall in love with you. Neo himself didn't even have to do anything or show any interest in Trinity, her love is the product of a technical glitch. It also pushed the increasingly common belief that information is good substitution for experience and knowledge. In the 90's and 2000s there was a belief among the terminally-online that the unlimited information that they had unique access to really would make them superheroes or overnight experts. Even if you've never built a bomb before, you could now just look up instructions and figure it out. Right?

But now even regular people are using info as buffers against the human experience. You don't need to form relationships with people to get to know them, you can read their social media feeds instead of asking them. Or even better, rely on other people to summarize entire demographics, or watch the tentpole movies that the website of your choice calls the most culturally influential films ever. And even when that's too much work, people watch reviews and read analyses of films as a substitute for ever seeing them. We can memorize music history and read about pop song structure's in place of learning how to play music. We can get soundbytes instead of listening to 30-minute political speeches and interviews. We can collect guns and memorize war trivia without ever firing a shot. We can watch a youtuber poorly-summarize philosophers instead of cracking open any books. Knowing about things, knowing about vague groups of people to serve as the closest thing to actually knowing them. And so the acclimation of trivia becomes an anxious reaction to counter the feeling of impotence

no_tears
Dec 20, 2020

Bing Bong

Colonel Cancer posted:

Yeah neo kissed agent smith and then entered him

What season was this on?

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Poohs Packin posted:

The Sex Matrix

Oh dear, so many sopping wet candy pussies, yet neo is not overwhelmed.. :mario:

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
When are you going to watch Reloaded, OP?

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

Realistically never, my swiss cheese brain makes watching even a single two-hour film a serious commitment. Sorry man.

I will have to train myself to watch more movies because like I said I enjoyed it, but it was legitimately very unusual for me

kazr
Jan 28, 2005

No matter what anyone says all the sequels are outright terrible

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000

I LITERALLY SLEEP IN A RACING CAR. DO YOU?
p.s. ask me about my subscription mattress
Ultra Carp

kazr posted:

No matter what anyone says all the sequels are outright terrible

git apologist
Jun 4, 2003


this is good filmmaking

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000

I LITERALLY SLEEP IN A RACING CAR. DO YOU?
p.s. ask me about my subscription mattress
Ultra Carp

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

She looks sorta weird in that picture you guys

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Big Beef City posted:

She looks sorta weird in that picture you guys

That right nip is so close to popping out that you can feel the film grain tremble. :hai:

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

She looks like a giraffe about to compare oranges at the market

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Big Beef City posted:

She looks like a giraffe about to compare oranges at the market

Um, shes TRYING to LOOK INTO THE MATRIX! :eyepoop:

kazr
Jan 28, 2005

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000

I LITERALLY SLEEP IN A RACING CAR. DO YOU?
p.s. ask me about my subscription mattress
Ultra Carp

Lamebot
Sep 8, 2005

ロボ顔菌~♡
I've never washed with Maytag.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

Realistically never, my swiss cheese brain makes watching even a single two-hour film a serious commitment. Sorry man.

I will have to train myself to watch more movies because like I said I enjoyed it, but it was legitimately very unusual for me

The Animatrix shorts are good in that they're short and the least-disappointing of the sequels, and literally everyone else is more interesting than Neo

Frakas
Mar 6, 2022
reloaded and revolutions are great

this is the brave opinion, to contrast with the cowards itt

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db6lBm1a9jc

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-N96ttyQWI

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
The Matrix Reloaded, after its done with the Zion stuff is one long string of matrix fights and car chases tied together with people talking incredibly vaguely at each other in scenes where the Wachowskis are absolutely just huffing the hell out of each others farts. I think the fight scenes can be sick as hell (PS2 era CGI aside) and I can get into the dialogue. The Architect scene in particular, as pretentiously overwritten as it is, is a lot of fun especially when you have Keanu Reeves cussing out the camera.

The issue is there's no actual plot that ties these things together. The entire driving force of the narrative is a prophecy. Neo, Morpheus and Trinity are just going from place to place solely because a prophet told them to, so anyone watching this film will have no idea why the characters are doing anything that they're doing because frankly neither do the characters or the writers. They try to tie this in to the themes of the movie and this idea of prophecy vs free will, but it just makes for an immensely confusing and often tedious experience. I have no idea who this French jackass bloviating at the camera is. Why should I care about any of this?

Greg of Doom
Dec 22, 2021

by sebmojo
More like Matrix:Pee Loaded, because after I'm done watching this crap I need to take a massive slash!

Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
slash isn't in the matrix, you're thinking of linkin park

Pug Rodeo
Feb 20, 2007

BRING IT ON BRING IT ON YEAH


https://youtu.be/E1Jsdu0S6mw

no_tears
Dec 20, 2020

Bing Bong

Mommy? Sorry. Mommy? Sorry. Brb need to find a copy of Peeloaded somewhere

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Oct 30, 2009

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OP, what’s the status on watching the rest of the matrix films?

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Beartaco
Apr 10, 2007

by sebmojo
I watched The Lighthouse last night. Very homoerotic. A horror film where the monster is alcoholism and isolation. I enjoyed it a bunch!

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