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SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

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The time has come for season 42 of Survivor! This season was filmed back to back with season 41 so anything you hated from 41 will probably still be there! Joy!



Survivor airs Wednesday, March 9th on CBS! Check your local listings.

:siren::siren::siren:PAY ATTENTION TO THIS: :siren::siren::siren:

Some basic rules, which should be no-brainers for pre-taped reality TV:
  • :siren:If it pertains to season 42 but has not aired, DO NOT spoil it in this thread:siren:. Keep that poo poo to Sucks or some other dumb Survivor fan site.
  • This show is now 22 years old and has repeatedly brought back previous contestants/winners (and had an all-winner season) so discussion of previous seasons is likely going to be rampant and un-spoiler-tagged. If you're spoiler averse to old seasons, tread lightly. and go watch the old seasons FFS, even the bad ones have good parts! (except 39 don't watch that one it sucks). Also of note, old seasons have a whole lot of people with bad takes on sexuality and race and gender, so buckle in for that if you go back a couple decades.
  • To that end, keep any veiled racist/sexist/misogynist bullshit out of the thread. CBS has pushed to make modern seasons of their reality TV more inclusive so let's do the same and enjoy this more diverse cast! It worked really well for Survivor 41 and especially for Big Brother 23, so hopefully Survivor casting can keep it up.

Now for all of the boiler plate poo poo for new viewers in case you’ve been living under a rock for the past 22 years.
What is Survivor?

Survivor is a reality show where a group of 16 to 20 or so contestants, from all walks of life, are stuck on a remote paradise and forced to live together for 39 26 days; gathering their own food, building their own shelter, and purifying their own water. The cast is split into opposing, equal teams, called tribes. The tribes must work together to form a community, in the hopes of one contestant becoming the Sole Survivor and winning one million dollars. At least one contestant is voted off every episode.

A typical Survivor season has three phases. Pre-Merge, Post-Merge, and Endgame.

  • Pre-Merge: Roughly the first half of the game. The tribes compete against each other twice each episode. First for a reward, and second for tribal immunity. Tribes that fail the immunity challenge will be forced to vote one of their own members out at the end of the episode.

  • Post-Merge: The tribes are merged together. Players are now playing for individual immunity and all players will participate in voting out a player from the tribe.

  • Endgame: Once 5-7 players or so remain, the show reaches the End game phase. Usually the very strong core alliances are shaken up here as people try to reach the end or placate the jury. The last nine players voted out before the final tribal council will join a Jury that will decide who will win of the final three (sometimes two) players.


This Season’s Gimmick

This season is going to be only 26 days, shortened from the usual 39 and, per Jeff, will be brutally hard with no food rewards or given rations and require much faster gameplay due to the shortened schedule.

Jeff said that these seasons are back to basics which we all assumed meant less twists and by golly wouldn’t you know it but season 41 was chock full of twists and stupid advantages galore and it was worse than usual but at least the people were cool

They’ve said that they learned some lessons from 41 and will implement them in 42 but this aint my first rodeo Jeff, so you’re not fooling me.

Supplemental Material

  • Rob has a Podcast: Available on iTunes or YouTube or their website. He does a few podcasts a week discussing the latest episodes events, interviewing the player who was voted out that episode, and provides theories about strategy. This podcast provides insight into the game that was not aired on the show. It is heavily referenced in this thread.

  • Twitter: Survivors poo poo on each other, shill for their crap, and every once in a while tweet something that's actually amusing.

  • YouTube: The Official YouTube Channel occasionally puts Ponderosa videos and bonus scenes on their channel but other times they're trying to draw traffic to their CBS All-Access app so they'll put them there instead. Worst case, just search for "Ponderosa [jury member]" and you'll find someone else uploaded it so you don't have to figure that out.

  • Australian Survivor - It’s out there, there are many seasons of it (one going on now as of the time of this OP) and it’s all very good! The seasons are longer, the episodes are longer, the contestants are Austrailianer and Aussie Probst is cool and good. Where do I watch it though? Ask in thread or search old threads, there’s tons of info out there, or if you’re not living in 1994 you probably have a VPN and are savvy enough to figure it out. Also, Survivor South Africa is good, particularly the last couple of seasons, so check that out too if you’re fiending for more.



Glossary of Terms

  • Blindside: When a tribal council seems to be set up so one or one of two possible players are getting eliminated, but somehow either a secret coalition or a surprising idol play makes it so someone else is voted out instead. :blindside:

  • "The Edit": Survivor is a show to entertain. It is produced and edited in a way to give players a streamlined personality and to create as much tension before Tribal Council as possible.

  • Goat: A useless, awful, or crazy person that is not being voted out of the game specifically so a player can look like a more desirable final survivor to the jury compared to the goat.

  • HII: Hidden Immunity Idol. They are hidden around the island. Clues will be given that could reveal their location. One-use item that a player can use after the votes are cast (but before they are read) at Tribal Council to nullify votes against that person. They can't be used at Final Four player or later.

  • Mactor: Portmanteau of "Model/Actor". A player who doesn't know the game very well and are just using it to further their career.

  • Pagonged: Going into post-merge, it's the act of voting out the former members of your opposing tribe before voting out the former members of your original tribe. It's the reason it's important to win tribal immunity pre-merge so that you outnumber the opposing tribe members in post-merge.

  • Pony/Poison: After the new season's cast is announced, thread members will pick a "Pony" (someone they think is awesome and will win) and a "Poison" (someone they think will suck and/or be an annoying rear end in a top hat they hope will lose or just simply suffer)

  • Purple Rocks: In the event of a tie at Tribal Council, there is a revote, with only the people receiving the most votes being eligible to receive votes during that revote. If the revote also ends in a tie, Survivors draw rocks. Whichever player draws the differently colored rock is eliminated from the game.

  • Splitting the vote/Flushing the Idol: An alliance that splits its votes between two members to counter a potential idol play. If one of those two players plays a Hidden Immunity Idol, there will still be enough players voting for the other guy to vote them out. This strategy can be risky.

Okay then, time for the cast! I’m too busy with life to do my former deep dives on everyone and post a bunch of snarky bullshit so just have a picture and something I found from their bio. If you want to read full bios then you can’t! Unless you click here!


Pictures are bighuge if you click so beware!

Chanelle Howell

Is a food blogger, so likely won’t have much to talk about on this season

Daniel Strunk

This guy looks to be the goony ultra-Survivor-dork who will probably Jacob Derwin his way out (yes I know having this reference on deck makes me an ultra-Survivor-dork).

Drea Wheeler

I don’t know what a fitness consultant is but she probably posts pictures of herself doing air squats on Instagram I guess.

Hai Giang

All of his answers are so boring I can’t even make fun of it. ZZZzzz…

Jackson Fox

Evidently is only on Survivor because they lost a dare so no I’m not mad why do you ask? Also is (I think) our second transgender contestant.

Jenny Kim

I was on board until she talked about her EQ. Ever hear of EQ? No? Yeah because it’s nonsense.

Jonathan Young

Pet peeve is wearing shirts. Not even a joke. Just a fact about a weird weirdo bro.

Lindsay Dolashewich

Self-described “loud friend” with “an intense personality”. We have our woo-girl I guess. Her name also has “she-witch” in it.

Lydia Meredith

Can use vacuum cleaners but is terrified if anyone else uses one

Marya Sherron

A self-proclaimed mix of Angelina and Tony so this might be a legitimate crazy person so I’m here for it.

Maryanne Oketch

I legit think she could be really good at the game, assuming her energy doesn’t get the best of her.

Mike Turner

Another person who wants to play like Boston Rob, so he wants to get eliminated pre-merge twice.

Omar Zaheer

One of his is pet peeves is objectively the best part of “Friends”, Joey, so he obviously sucks. I will fight anyone who sides with this guy on this.

Rocksroy Bailey

Loves watching golf, so hours upon hours of boring nothingness on Survivor should appeal to him greatly.

Romeo Escobar

Said he wants to achieve a great Survivor historical moment like Rupert. Hopefully they get a shovel on their marooning.

Swati Goel

Her entire profile is incredibly obnoxious to read because she’s some type A super genius who never fails and always wins at everything. Her hero is also Elon Musk which probably explains the megalomania.

Tori Meehan

Another self-proclaimed “crazy and loud” blonde girl. Yay just what we needed! Thanks Survivor diversity initiative! You did it!

Zach Wurtenberger

I mean c’mon this guy is a goon right? Show yourself Zach. Step forward and be judged.

And that’ll do it. Sorry for the super duper late thread but life is busy. SHOW STARTS THIS WEDNESDAY so hold on to your butts. Pick those ponies and poisons.

Oh do this too if you want:

Chili posted:

Ah grumblecakes, the old thread is closed so I can't just quote this.

Hey! Would you like to play in a very low-effort survivor fantasy league!

If you're interested head over to https://tribal-council.com/ and use join code: d98dd968-1741-4707-95f0-68b3c32f6186 to join the 12 other people who have signed up so far! I think the league holds up to 16 so there aren't many spots left, get in while you can!

The point system is kinda neat, feel free to give it a read!

Some quick things to note:

There are times when you will be able to entirely redraft your team! I believe last season these moments were after the first episode and when the merge occurred. I imagine a swap would trigger a redraft as well. If there's a redraft you can pick as many new players as you like but when a player from your roster is booted, you lose access to that slot entirely!

I will post here when redrafts are available and I'll post some scoring updates that seem interesting.

Oh and if you're feeling extra confident about the power of your team and its potential to go the distance, go ahead and brag it about here. If you confirm confidence and you come in last place I will purchase you a survivor fantasy losertar.

SweetJahasus fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 16, 2022

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The Bloop posted:

I'm super ready



Close your tags, OP

The hazards of writing up a huge post in notepad on a laptop when you're exhausted. Think I fixed them all.

Pony: Maryanne
Poison: Jonathan

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Chili posted:

fantasy

Added to OP

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Can't wait to watch these people cannibalize each other.

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Survivor 42: You gotta protect the balls, Rocksroy

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Narcissus1916 posted:

Did they ever explain what happens if one of the three Beware Passphrase Idol holders is voted out? Are the other two totally hosed and lose their vote until merge? Or do they only need to now say two phrases? Or does the idol go back into play for someone else to discover?

This happened in season 41 to Brad.

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Ugh Daniel is the worst. What a wet blanket loser for flipping on his ally basically instantly and lying about the fact that he wasn't driving it. Dude is a complete trash fire and I hate the fact that he's a super fan.

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The Bloop posted:

But Jeff
Where are the votes Jeff

Where are the votes

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Khanstant posted:

Ahh okay I remember now. Good job, goobers lol.

Any of yall stick around after to see this Beyond the Edge show? This is the furthest I've made it in and it kind of seems like a lovely "celebrity survivor: oops all challenges."

Uh huh. It's boringer survivor.

Wait til they give Ray Lewis a knife, that's when the survival really starts.

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For people with boring storylines like Swati, they probably have to rely on editing tricks like that in order to really illustrate why they're going home.

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Studio posted:

:slick: :slick: :slick: :slick: :slick:

Keeping STRUNK in my tribal council draft was extremely worth it even though it def cost me first

:slick: :slick: :slick: :slick: :slick:

Man I've gotta ask, do you know this guy personally or something or are you memeing something that exists in a different survivor community I'm unaware of, because Daniel comes across on tv as a completely unlikable chode

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quote:

Survivor 42: ITS GOOD, ITS BIG, ITS APPLEBEES

Mods? We need this.

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Narcissus1916 posted:

There was that one hilarious season of Big Brother ages ago where everyone sat around saying absolutely heinous racist and sexist poo poo. People were throwing racial slurs left and right, and it culminated with a guy defending Hitler.

Good times.

Sadly, you're gonna have to be more specific...

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Welp, here's Jonathan's audition tape. Check at 0:17 and who he's bodyguarding for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoP1fwnzZHs

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Yeah I posted the video just as an FYI since the conversation was happening. I still give him the benefit of the doubt though because he's doing big man stand here work for a paycheck, unlike Daniel who is doing it because he believes in it.

Nihonniboku posted:

Ew. Also, if you were to tell me someone from that cast did that without telling me the name, I would definitely have guessed Rodney.

How soon you forget Vince. He probably has been doing this on the side for years.

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I loved the blood trap thing, such a good trick. I was angry that the "risk" was that you could get caught searching, but when they revealed the blood thing I was loving it.

Good on Tori for noticing and deducing the bullshit about painting the flag though. She's the worst, but you can't argue with the fact that she's doing the best she can for the position she's put herself in with her lovely social game.

Until we see out-of-game Jonathan content I will continue to be impressed by his insane ability to kick rear end. I regret picking him as my pregame poison, but maybe that will pan out if he turns out to be a psycho.

Poor Romeo sure has lost his edge. I don't totally know how he had such a fall from a position of assumed power but his doom spiral has definitely sunk him. I had anticipated him going far too.

Sink all idols in fake blood from now on.

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Khanstant posted:

haha that was a wild exit, love it. always spill da beans and make call outs on your way out

I could not disagree more. Saying stuff about everyone on your way out is selfish and in a game like this it's bad sportsmanship. If you were still in the game and you voted someone out you wouldn't want every person there spilling your poo poo and trying to ruin your game.

If you had one enemy or someone who had been bullying or targeting you all game, sure try to blow up their spot but don't throw some poo poo on everyone because even nice things come with repercussions.

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My point is that by even saying things like she did to Mike or to Maryanne which were nice things can have negative affects on their game based on how the remaining contestants perceive them.

Drea's comment to Maryanne, to use your example, coupled with the intense tribal a couple of weeks ago including them both, could indicate to other contestants that she has 3 defacto votes on the jury in her fellow black contestants (irregardless of the truth in this, perception is reality). This could lead to her being targeted if she wasn't previously due to being a jury threat.

It's the kind of thing where I suppose the golden rule comes into play and yeah while you're "out" now so you may think who cares, it's still good to treat the others with the same respect you'd want to receive.

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Maryanne and Romeo making moves from the bottom. Good on them!!

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SweetJahasus posted:

The hazards of writing up a huge post in notepad on a laptop when you're exhausted. Think I fixed them all.

Pony: Maryanne
Poison: Jonathan

Holy poo poo I actually didn't pick someone who immediately got voted out for once.

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My opinion on it is that if you get hurt by a complete stranger in a game where the first word of the tagline is "Outwit" then you're out of your depth and deserved to lose.

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Studio posted:

A huge part of Survivor is that they're not total strangers by the end of the game, or even early vote outs, and many of the players end up staying friends post-game. Emotions are good, bring 'em on!!!

My comment was more about the escalation to "gaslighting" for someone who you've peripherally known for like 4 days. Like, a lie in a game like survivor doesn't work unless you commit, and Hai is relentless with questions/etc as we saw so yes Romeo needed to be persistent with his lies or get called out on them. It's the structure of the game, not gaslighting. People who get upset that someone lied in a game of self preservation and deception (particularly with the new insane twists that encourage blindsiding) need to chill.

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This is cool and good that Hai at least recognized the gaffe and copped to it.

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I would recommend those of you above to check out the Facebook group "The Tribe Has Spoken" and request an invite there, then check out their pinned posts. :smugdog:

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Vanuatu is also a great underdog story. Also has some weird gender stuff too since a lot of the season revolves around some men vs women factions but the story of the winner is kinda hilarious and there are some great characters from the season.

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Ayooooo Survivor thread, sorry for dragging my feet on a new thread. I am currently getting killed with work but am trying to piece together an OP. I will get one posted in the next day or so, before the premiere!

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New thread sucks make sure you poo poo all over it and me and watch Survivor tonight: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4012967

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