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Milo and POTUS posted:i always liked spirit of the night art even if it wasnt the best early big rear end black creatures had some great art     BasicLich fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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Mar 17, 2022 08:57
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I see your Joven and raise you a Johan
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Mar 17, 2022 09:26
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Zero VGS posted:I see your Joven and raise you a Johan gently caress yeah Legends Legends are insane  we're just now getting into what would eventually become the most popular format today, called Commander, originally informally called Elder Dragon Highlander. BasicLich fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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Mar 17, 2022 09:35
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Theres like 10 different formats right
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Mar 17, 2022 10:03
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Milo and POTUS posted:Theres like 10 different formats right It's complicated. When I played seriously, accepted house rules became the "banned and restricted list" which gave us Type 1 and Type 2. Type 2 was the format with the most change. Type 2 became Standard, but this left the problem of Type 1 variants. Later Type 1 would give us type 1.5, and then type 1.X. Type 1 would become Vintage, Type 1.5 would become Legacy and Type 1.X was called "Extended" for a long period. e: Not sure where "Modern format" falls in this because I retired before it. The long and short of it is that formats are living things, and every new set affects all formats unless they specifically disallow all new cards. BasicLich fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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Mar 17, 2022 10:22
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BasicLich posted:gently caress yeah Legends Legends are insane let's rip that band-aid off 
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Mar 17, 2022 11:37
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Palladias-Mor seems kinda weak and lame compared to the others.
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Mar 17, 2022 13:05
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I love how old cards often felt the need to specify things about their rules that aren't even implied in the first place, like they were trying to guess at the wild assumptions players would be making about random poo poo. "I took damage from my own creature so therefore it can't atta- oh wait, the card says otherwise!"
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Mar 17, 2022 13:07
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BasicLich posted:e: Not sure where "Modern format" falls in this because I retired before it. The philosophy here changed at some point so instead of having a bunch of formats that rotate the same as Standard there's now Standard (rotating) and misc eternal formats, which are like "Set X and later". Instead of rotating they will sometimes print direct-to-eternal sets like Modern Horizons which are meant to do a kind of shakeup similar to a rotation. Old rules text owns and people starting making old sounding rules text alters to be funny and last year WotC did a Secret Lair drop which is modern cards but with beta-era rules text. 
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Mar 17, 2022 17:32
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BasicLich posted:MTG has gone in strange directions since I quit playing, among the most distressing was the apparent inclusion of Godzilla of all properties into MTG Besides the Walking Dead and Dracula cards that someone already mentioned, WotC has also done a Stranger Things pack and a Street Fighter pack. I believe they’ve announced that they’re doing Lord of the Rings and Warhammer 40k soon too. Oh, and there was a D&D Forgotten Realms set recently too.
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i wonder what joven is up to these days that lovable bastard.
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Mar 17, 2022 17:59
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BIG TIT LIL NIP posted:i wonder what joven is up to these days that lovable bastard. Something sinful, no doubt.
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Vidmaster posted:Besides the Walking Dead and Dracula cards that someone already mentioned, WotC has also done a Stranger Things pack and a Street Fighter pack. I believe they’ve announced that they’re doing Lord of the Rings and Warhammer 40k soon too. Oh, and there was a D&D Forgotten Realms set recently too. I've been playing Arena lately, and let me tell you coming up against a Forgotten Realms deck is aggravating as gently caress because it takes forever every time someone "enters the dungeon"." C'mon man, I just want you to finish kicking my rear end, I don't need to wait 5 minutes while your effects resolve.
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Mar 17, 2022 18:19
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Poohs Packin posted:bere This bear has bangin' titties.
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BIG TIT LIL NIP posted:i wonder what joven is up to these days that lovable bastard. By day he's a city bus driver. By night, he's the headliner at Snarg's.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:This bear has bangin' titties. 
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obithrawn posted:The philosophy here changed at some point so instead of having a bunch of formats that rotate the same as Standard there's now Standard (rotating) and misc eternal formats, which are like "Set X and later". Instead of rotating they will sometimes print direct-to-eternal sets like Modern Horizons which are meant to do a kind of shakeup similar to a rotation. They don't explain what "abandon" means. Do I put them in the grave? Back in the deck? Slightly further away from me on the table? Come on, get more granular!
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Who What Now posted:They don't explain what "abandon" means. Do I put them in the grave? Back in the deck? Slightly further away from me on the table? Come on, get more granular! They also said it can be attacked as if it were you, but neglected to mention that burn spells which damage "any target" such as lightning bolt can remove loyalty. Not like the text can any finer than that...
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Zero VGS posted:They also said it can be attacked as if it were you, but neglected to mention that burn spells which damage "any target" such as lightning bolt can remove loyalty. Not like the text can any finer than that... I don't see any point in discussing this, those text boxes might as well be a cry laughing emoji 🤣🤣🤣 just like how those Godzilla cards aren't actually Godzilla, but some cruel farce to sell cardboard.
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Double posting because it's another issue of Better Know A Degenerate Combo Deck. Today's edition is about the Tolarian Academy Combo, hereafter called TAC for the purposes of this post. TAC is probably the most powerful legal deck until long.dec (designed by the aforementioned Mike Long, we'll get into that later) but I would like to see combo deck head-to-heads to prove it. TAC is the first successful combo deck to be completely creatureless and completely Blue, aside from the Artifacts it relies on. The core of TAC is these three cards:    How it functions is actually quite simple. You'll have a few artifacts in play and then untap Tolarian Academy repeatedly using Mind Over Matter and then fill your hand with even more cards, producing even more mana and then forcing your opponent to exhaust their deck with Stroke of Genius powered by all the mana you can produce. This is because if a player is forced to draw a card and cannot because their library is empty, they lose the game immediately. Here's the original deck as it was played in type 2 (now called standard)  This deck is mostly card draw and artifact mana. This deck usually won by turn 2 and could win on turn 1 which is largely unheard of in the type 2/standard format.
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BasicLich posted:Double posting because it's another issue of Better Know A Degenerate Combo Deck. Today's edition is about the Tolarian Academy Combo, hereafter called TAC for the purposes of this post. What cards got banned or restricted to break the deck?
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A Strange Aeon posted:What cards got banned or restricted to break the deck? All of them, if you're asking about Standard  Tolarian Academy is the only one that's banned in Legacy/restricted in Vintage afaik
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Devils Affricate posted:All of them, if you're asking about Standard I guess in vintage there's enough other insane stuff that having the TAC deck go off only 25% as often is considered acceptable?
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unspent mana used to damage the player right? I could have swore that was a mechanic back in the day that they eventually got rid of but my friend who played a lot more said it didn't so now idk
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I don't totally get Vintage but googling some lists right now it looks like the deck evolved into doing more powerful stuff, instead of generating a bunch of mana and casting a Stroke of Genius you're doing stuff like using Tinker to get Bolas's Citadel into play and then just having access to your entire deck at once or taking infinite turns or using a storm card to kill them. I think the part where you need to first generate a hundred mana is basically redundant now because so much other poo poo is available. A traditional "Academy" list like that one listed was popular in the format for at least a decade after those sets came out though. Almost every card in that deck was restricted at one point in Vintage but a bunch of them were later unrestricted because they aren't good enough anymore I guess. I see even Crop Rotation (which could be used to get your 1 Academy into play) isn't restricted anymore so I guess that poo poo is too slow hilariously enough. Milo and POTUS posted:unspent mana used to damage the player right? I could have swore that was a mechanic back in the day that they eventually got rid of but my friend who played a lot more said it didn't so now idk Right, unspent mana used to do damage to you but now it doesn't. Control decks that had Mana Drain before used to also need a "mana sink" to prepare just in case they got burdened with a ton of mana they couldn't easily spend. obithrawn fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Mar 19, 2022 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:unspent mana used to damage the player right? I could have swore that was a mechanic back in the day that they eventually got rid of but my friend who played a lot more said it didn't so now idk Mana burn was a thing yeah. My dad and his friends used to play Magic when I was a kid which got me into Magic. One time I was pulling a come from behind victory against one of his buddies who was That Guy and a known cheater and he was equal parts pissed, embarrassed, and devastated at being beaten by a child in a card game for babies. My only creature could get any type of land walk (unblockable by creatures of that color) so I tapped a mana and declared an attack for game. He was literally pulling at his hair trying to find a way out of it until he said I didn't specify which kind of land walk I was using before declaring an attack which meant I didn't properly use the ability and so he blocked my creature and made me take mana burn. He won the next turn. I never played against that douchebag again. Who What Now fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Mar 19, 2022 |
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Was gathering mana from a tapped land an active thing? Like if i tapped an opponents land with twiddle or icy manipulator would that damage them? Or did that only count if they wanted to use it
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Who What Now posted:Mana burn was a thing yeah. My dad and his friends used to play Magic when I was a kid which got me into Magic. One time I was pulling a come from behind victory against one of his buddies who was That Guy and a known cheater and he was equal parts pissed, embarrassed, and devastated at being beaten by a child in a card game for babies. My only creature could get any type of land walk (unblockable by creatures of that color) so I tapped a mana and declared an attack for game. He was literally pulling at his hair trying to find a way out of it until he said I didn't specify which kind of land walk I was using before declaring an attack which meant I didn't properly use the ability and so he blocked my creature and made me take mana burn. He won the next turn. lol 
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Milo and POTUS posted:Was gathering mana from a tapped land an active thing? Like if i tapped an opponents land with twiddle or icy manipulator would that damage them? Or did that only count if they wanted to use it I vaguely remember you could use twiddle and some tap/untap mechanism to kill by mana burn in the early days but I could be horribly misremembering.
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tapping a land or creature or w/e didn't force the opponent to use an ability, it was just tapped and couldn't be used until untapped
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quod licet jovi non licet chandler
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Milo and POTUS posted:unspent mana used to damage the player right? I could have swore that was a mechanic back in the day that they eventually got rid of but my friend who played a lot more said it didn't so now idk Never a problem for TAC because Stroke of Genius is the perfect kill card, "decking out" (being forced to draw with no cards in your library) is immediate and mana burn happened at the end of the phase/step. It's also instant speed so you can do mean things like let them think they're about to win and during their upkeep force them to pick up their whole library and lose E: Like if your blue deck has 4 counterspells in your sideboard it's either a bad deck or should be illegal. BasicLich fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Mar 19, 2022 |
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I was an imaginative and lonely child who bought the cards and played against herself a lot  I thought the d'avenant archer card had a hot lady. Also I read and enjoyed the terrible books following Gull the meat head and his weird druid sister. Yes I was a super popular kid!!!!
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Joven was my childhood crush too oh my!!!!!! (I was actually thinking of Jovi from 90 Day Fiance this whole time)
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Jon Bon Joven
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Joven an elevator! Joven it up when I'm goin down
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Also I read and enjoyed the terrible books following Gull the meat head and his weird druid sister. Yes I was a super popular kid!!!! Oh God. This is reminding me I also heard a horrible mtg book. I recall it haven't a pretty intense sex sense in it.
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