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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'm glad you posted this but I'll pass as I really dislike NYHC yeah I don't think it'll change your mind lol. some really great talking head interviews though.
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I think something to consider when conflating leftist cinema with punk cinema is that punk is very left-wing and anti-authoritarian, but also not always ideologically coherent. Something that reading up on the history through books like Please Kill Me or American Hardcore really dispelled is the idea that punk was born from a political consciousness. After all, much of the culture was created by snotty teenagers. However, as with all things, politics formed within it and the inherent counter cultural ethos lent it to left-wing political thinking. That was helped along by socialist bands like The Clash and the anarcho-punk movement in the UK, and bands like Dead Kennedys and MDC in the U.S. among many others. Nowadays, most current punks see a political ideology as part and parcel with punk for the most part, which is contrary to a lot of the early stuff which is how you end up with, like, Johnny Rotten being MAGA these days or Johnny Ramone loving Reagan. Through the films, this is also apparent. Return of the Living Dead is not on its face trying to be political (though you could certainly read an anti-chemical weapons/military industrial complex/yada yada yada message from it) but it is undoubtedly a punk film. Something like Green Room meanwhile is explicitly antifascist. Just something to keep in mind. Because the scope of Leftist Cinema is very broad and you're going to find all sorts of conflicting ideologies within it. Maoist Chinese operas like The Red Detachment of Women is a very different perspective than, say, American labor films like Harlan County USA and Salt of the Earth. Jean-Luc Godard's radical but academic "Read Theory" Dziga Vertov Group era films are wildly different from Born in Flames' down and dirty feminism or The Battle of Chile's on the ground/had to be smuggled out the country journalism.
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I consider CHUD a punk film, though maybe anti-Reagan is a more straightforward descriptor The Ranger is a solid modern horror film involving punks
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Mar 16, 2022 19:27
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Matewan - a film from the 80s starring James Earl Jones and 'Bonnie' Prince Billy about some miners forming a union and the owners sending in the Pinkertons to bust poo poo up.
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Cemetry Gator posted:Matewan - a film from the 80s starring James Earl Jones and 'Bonnie' Prince Billy about some miners forming a union and the owners sending in the Pinkertons to bust poo poo up. This movie fuckin whips rear end.
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TrixRabbi posted:I think something to consider when conflating leftist cinema with punk cinema is that punk is very left-wing and anti-authoritarian, but also not always ideologically coherent. Something that reading up on the history through books like Please Kill Me or American Hardcore really dispelled is the idea that punk was born from a political consciousness. After all, much of the culture was created by snotty teenagers. However, as with all things, politics formed within it and the inherent counter cultural ethos lent it to left-wing political thinking. That was helped along by socialist bands like The Clash and the anarcho-punk movement in the UK, and bands like Dead Kennedys and MDC in the U.S. among many others. This is very valid. My general interest in punk is mostly political but I have a Joey Ramone tattoo (gently caress Johnny). It's worth noting, imo, that Joey put support behind a lot of good causes (food banks, homeless support). I like PIL, think the pistols mostly weren't that good. When Rotten outed himself as a poo poo by assaulting Keke Okerke, I didn't really struggle with disassociate from him. The CHUD stuff in hindsight shouldn't have surprised me. I've read Please Kill Me. Great book. Lotta folks come off poorly in it but it's honest so I appreciate it. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Mar 16, 2022 |
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Mar 16, 2022 23:10
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The Edukators (or, Die fetten Jahre sind vorbei) is pretty overtly left-anarchist and fairly punk, imo. I need to rewatch it.
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Ravenfood posted:The Edukators (or, Die fetten Jahre sind vorbei) is pretty overtly left-anarchist and fairly punk, imo. I need to rewatch it. Synopsis sounds interesting. Have any of you seen the Taqwacores https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Taqwacores_(film) Seems interesting but reviews seem mixed El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Mar 18, 2022 |
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Would Knives Out count as leftist, given the way it portrays people of privilege and the way it ends?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Would Knives Out count as leftist, given the way it portrays people of privilege and the way it ends? I've heard other people say so but I don't really think so given how much the plot revolves around a self-made rich dude actually being totally benevolent. It doesn't seem to be a movie saying that capitalism is bad so much as saying that rich people's kids are obnoxious (which, i mean, true)
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It's definitely anti-bourgeois, but I don't think it provides much of a leftist perspective. I would argue the same for The Rules of the Game.
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It's been a while since I saw Knives Out but it felt to me like the message was, if you're the child of poor immigrants, your best bet is being really nice to your rich boss and maybe he'll reward you by letting you in on his fortune. Is that not the dream of liberal capitalism?
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Knives Out doesn't argue for the abolition or distribution of wealth, it just argues for the transfer of it.
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I think the trailer speaks for itself here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0e0PH70Nig
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before you even start with any of those you must internalize the oeuvre of the Marxist autuer michael bay.
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Chemtrailologist posted:I think the trailer speaks for itself here This movie kicks rear end.
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Vitruvian Manic posted:before you even start with any of those you must internalize the oeuvre of the Marxist autuer michael bay. He's probably just a lib, but looking at his stuff from an anarcho-punk lens would be cool (and has sorta been done in our more infamous threads). My impression is this thread is more for intentionally leftist movies that deserve a wider audience, but if we run out of those then we should go hog wild why not I was gonna earlier suggest Neil Blomkamp's oeuvre but they're honestly pretty well known (and argued over) already so they can wait.
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John Waters counts surely? Also, what about less likely answers, like something like I dunno, Nightbreed, he'll I think a friend posted a thesis synopsis about Mean Girls a while back El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Mar 23, 2022 |
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Mar 23, 2022 23:47
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The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On A documentary by Kazuo Hara about Kenzo Okuzaki, an anarchist and WW2 veteran who goes around investigating the suspicious deaths of 2 soldiers in his unit in New Guinea, usually beating up the people he questions in the process.
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theif! thief. https://youtu.be/ObvTZF4Qy8k
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Aside from Green Room, any recent punk movies worth watching? I saw Dinner In America at a film festival a year or so back and really enjoyed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIf2SbZqtTE Also seconding The Ranger.
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I don't think anyone mentioned Lindsay Anderson's "O Lucky Man!" yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRz_3pok1Og https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDC5BAA82059241D6
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Bula Vinaka posted:I don't think anyone mentioned Lindsay Anderson's "O Lucky Man!" yet. loving incredible film. if you liked Sorry to Bother You, you have to check this one out.
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Is Boots Riley working on another film? I thought Sorry to Bother You was a bit rough around the edges, overstuffed with ideas, but ultimately interesting, and I'm really keen in seeing how he evolves as a director if he keeps with it.
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He has a new show coming out on Amazon called I’m A Virgo.
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Aug 27, 2022 23:21
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Cool thread. I contribute the excellent Redes (1936), a Mexican film about ruthlessly exploited fisherman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI92alJhq08
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Aug 28, 2022 23:48
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Class of 1999.
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also River's Edge is about how apocalyptic and miserable late capitalism is. it and Gummo feel like they may as well take place after total collapse--social order falls apart in the places that capital has no more use for.
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Is the Guitar Wolf movie good? Saw River 's Edge, it has its moments
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Saw River 's Edge, it has its moments "Clarissa, is that you?" "Yes."
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Another example would be Repo Man, and yet another would be Brazil. If you're a fan of Repo Man, you owe it to yourself to check out Walker, Alex Cox's biopic about the colonialist scumbag who went down to Nicaragua in the 1850s and declared himself President. Given how utterly scathing it is, it's amazing that Cox was able to scam the money out of Universal to go down and shoot it in Nicaragua at the height of the civil war, and it's not surprising at all that he got blacklisted from Hollywood for making it. Definitely check it out.
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Got a chance to see How to Blow Up a Pipeline at the Chicago Film Festival this weekend. Got to say, it rocked. A really fun heist film thats uncompromising on the morality of blowing up oil pipelines. I have no idea how it compares to the book, which I haven't read, and understand is more along the lines of a manifesto. It interestingly doesn't spend much time justifying itself, giving small personal stories for the characters and their motivations. One expects the "white text on black screen" type of exposition that tells the viewer why global warming is a problem, but it eschews that. It ends up being a pretty personal film in that way. My only issue with the film is the way it handles police informants. It's a little too neat and easy with how they handle it (the type of activists they are would take OpSec very very carefully and not just sign up anyone who says they want to blow up a pipeline) - oh yeah, some of our guys are police informers? We'll just keep feeding them bullshit and mislead the FBI. People have been trying to do that centuries! It doesn't work! But yeah, no worries, lots of fun. Tight little movie, hope it gets a wide release.
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Black Lighter posted:If you're a fan of Repo Man, you owe it to yourself to check out Walker, Alex Cox's biopic about the colonialist scumbag who went down to Nicaragua in the 1850s and declared himself President. Given how utterly scathing it is, it's amazing that Cox was able to scam the money out of Universal to go down and shoot it in Nicaragua at the height of the civil war, and it's not surprising at all that he got blacklisted from Hollywood for making it. Definitely check it out. I've always wanted to because of Joe Strummer 's involvement
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I've always wanted to because of Joe Strummer 's involvement Do it. The soundtrack's a banger, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veGg_bD7_Go Also, if you don't mind the fact that it's only available in potato quality, you should definitely take an hour to watch Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em on YouTube. It's a really sharp and nihilistic short film about a bunch of punks throwing one last party in a fallout shelter after the bombs drop - almost no one's heard about it, and it's really good. https://youtu.be/gU9raAVgNCw
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Black Lighter posted:Also, if you don't mind the fact that it's only available in potato quality, you should definitely take an hour to watch Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em on YouTube. It's a really sharp and nihilistic short film about a bunch of punks throwing one last party in a fallout shelter after the bombs drop - almost no one's heard about it, and it's really good. https://youtu.be/gU9raAVgNCw I've wanted to see this for years! Thanks for sharing the link
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Black Lighter posted:Do it. The soundtrack's a banger, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veGg_bD7_Go
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I'd say a lot of George Romero's films could be taken with a leftist bent to them; like Dawn of the Dead and while ehhh Land of the Dead is pretty explicit.
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Echoing the Walker recommendation above. As far as other films I've seen recently, recommend Paul Schrader's Blue Collar (great depiction of how racism and union corruption undermines class solidarity), and Penda's Fen (British teen realizes his homosexuality, which also leads him to reject capitalism and Christianity in favor of neo-paganism).
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Watching I am a Cliche Maybe it's because of the current state of things in North America but the National Front footage is really unnerving (I get why it's in there, mind). Very good documentary. What a badass Poly was.
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Ken Loach's whole catalog is somewhere on the leftist spectrum. But in particular he made The Navigators, with a script by a Trotskyist railway union activist called Rob Dawber. It's about the impact of privatisation in the 90s on the industry and the track workers. It was the only script Dawber wrote as he then died of mesothelioma caused by exposure to asbestos while working trackside.
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