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Tunic is a top-down isometric Zelda-esque adventure game with a dash of Dark Souls difficulty and a heap of La Mulana/Fez what is going on here. Much like this terrible OP, the less you know going in the better, as a large part of the fun so far is discovering how things work and trying to interpret what the game informs you of. That said if someone wants to make a better OP then go nuts and I'll paste it in. It's on PC and Xbox and is available on Xbox Gamepass for those of us with crab claw discount madness.
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Mar 19, 2022 05:34
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Here is a mild early spoiler: Before you go to West Gardens you should have the shield. You can get there without it (somehow) but I wouldn't.
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Mar 19, 2022 05:36
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Someone on Reddit has made it there without even picking up the Stick somehow lol but I don't think that's an intended route
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Mar 19, 2022 06:07
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People were talking about the shortcuts and how on a replay you could save a bunch of time, but from my experience all the critical route shortcuts had a lever to open it so while you could go the back way, you'd probably run into a closed door.
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Mar 19, 2022 07:45
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I'm pretty well into solving the language of the game, but pretty time consuming to translate. If anyone wants a little bit of hint: It IS a translation of English, but it is not something as simple as a direct letter to glyph transposition. A little bit further spoiler (still pretty vague): Find out which glyphs correspond to "a" and "the", which will help a bit with the structure of the text. Figure out what the symbol in parenthesis in the upper left corner of page 11 might mean. Find out where else it's used.
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Mar 19, 2022 08:54
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For anyone struggling with combat, there is one mechanic that as far as I know is not revealed in the manual and helped me out with some of the tougher fights: you can parry by double-tapping the block button. It's very much a Dark Souls parry though -- it takes a second to wind up, you don't want to start it right at the moment of impact, instead you usually want to hit it right when an enemy goes into their attack animation. This will stun enemies in melee and let you get some free hits in, but I've found it even more useful against ranged enemies because it deflects the shot back towards them and often does a lot of damage.
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Mar 19, 2022 15:39
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I've been aware of that move for ages by accidentally button mashing it, but I've yet to actually successfully pull it off like you described. After getting punched in the face a dozen times as I kept using it wrong, I just kinda accepted that there's no way I'll ever land it. Also for for what seems to be a secret technique used to get a vanity trophy(?) in the East Forest, that involves the grapple, I immediately found a nearby place to use it again but there doesn't seem to be any reason to grapple there, as all 3 exits to the room lead to the wrong sides of invisible walls. The technique+grapple is so stupidly specific that there must be a reason to be in that room, but... shrug. The technique itself is OP as gently caress tho, assuming you used some sort of key macro or inhuman timing to be able to land it on demand.
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Mar 19, 2022 16:52
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Wait, what's the technique you're referring to? And the parry is tricky because if you do it and your timing is just a little bit off, you'll block the attack like normal -- what you're looking for is a flash and an enemy stun though. Also as I'm typing this I'm realizing that I've had an ability equipped for a while that modifies my shield in some way (the one that puts the gem in the middle of it) so maybe that's boosting my parrying effect or making the timing easier or something lol? No clue edit: gave in and looked it up and it indeed does make the timing easier. No clue where I got it though goferchan fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Mar 19, 2022 |
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Mar 19, 2022 17:08
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Oh so THAT'S what the gem does, thanks. The technique I'm talking about is using the magic wand with pew pew spam to fire freezing bolts for no additional mana cost. If you got the knack down for it you could probably cheese almost every fight.
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Mar 19, 2022 17:24
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Finished this. I'm hesitant to describe the later parts of the game because I think it's important people experience at least the initial late-game surprises blind.
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Mar 19, 2022 17:42
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I wish I'd taken a clip of the lighting effect when the door from the dark tomb to the path to west garden opened Game's real dang pretty 
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Mar 19, 2022 18:29
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ErrEff posted:Finished this. I'm hesitant to describe the later parts of the game because I think it's important people experience at least the initial late-game surprises blind. Some of the later puzzles were my favorite video game puzzles in many years
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Mar 19, 2022 19:04
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Early on (past ringing 2nd bell) and enjoying it so far but it's also weirdly hard? Life was dangerous until I got the shield but then that first boss took me a bunch of tries and I went north only to die in 1 hit from something and then pop back to my last checkpoint which was very far away. Shut the game off then since I wasn't interested in that run back. More punishing than Elden Ring imo.
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Mar 20, 2022 02:16
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Oh cool, spent over 20 hours in the last few days on this and it's easily one of the best games I've ever played. It is laser targeted at my interests but still. The puzzle to open the mountain door is just superb.
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Mar 20, 2022 02:34
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After ringing the Eastern bell I started wandering a bit and ended up getting utterly pummeled by critters ([spoiler]in the Quarry). I was thinking the combat was just too much for me, until I realized I had gotten waaay ahead of myself. The manual does a good job of pointing you where to go next, but the game does, probably due to its souls-like influences, allow you to go places that are maybe unwise early on (unless perhaps you are amazingly good at combat, which I am certainly not). Also if you stray off the hinted paths you can easily miss manual pages that help explain game concepts (I figured out how to upgrade my stats somewhat accidentally before actually finding the manual page for it). Loving the game. It's enjoyable, full of puzzles, the combat is challenging for me, but the game keeps giving me tools to help. I like the mechanic where you get bonus refills of items you use a lot (I leaned on bombs a bunch at one point and am +5 on them now...)
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Mar 20, 2022 04:05
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Beat the final boss. Probably took 20-30 attempts, am still tilted about the camera controls there. Ended up using that cheese technique I talked about a few posts up, because gently caress that wildly gyrating camera. Game is implying that I should go back and continue hunting for stuff, but that feels bad since most of the map is sealed off, is there any way to continue platforming and getting money, or do I just need to suck it up and go NG+? What items do I lose when starting NG+? edit: Oh I still have no goddamn idea what half my inventory items and slot-in cards do. I love the mystery of uncovering stuff but having a super-rare item that you eat for no visible effect is no bueno. Serephina fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Mar 20, 2022 |
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Mar 20, 2022 04:27
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Quinton posted:After ringing the Eastern bell I started wandering a bit and ended up getting utterly pummeled by critters (in the Quarry)I was thinking the combat was just too much for me, until I realized I had gotten waaay ahead of myself. The manual does a good job of pointing you where to go next, but the game does, probably due to its souls-like influences, allow you to go places that are maybe unwise early on (unless perhaps you are amazingly good at combat, which I am certainly not). Also if you stray off the hinted paths you can easily miss manual pages that help explain game concepts (I figured out how to upgrade my stats somewhat accidentally before actually finding the manual page for it). Yeah one cool thing though is that you can definitely be rewarded for doing things in an unusual order. Like the branch you went to is definitely the hardest of the three available, but if I were to replay the game I'd dip in there first and beeline for the gun, because it completely obliterates any combat encounter at that point in the game
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Mar 20, 2022 04:40
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Serephina posted:Game is implying that I should go back and continue hunting for stuff, but that feels bad since most of the map is sealed off, is there any way to continue platforming and getting money, or do I just need to suck it up and go NG+? What items do I lose when starting NG+? Here's a hint: You look like you could use a nap after all that work. Here's the answer outright: You can sleep in the bed in the old house. When it's daytime you can explore everywhere like before, and when it's night the moonlight bridges are active and the ghosts are out. Serephina posted:edit: Oh I still have no goddamn idea what half my inventory items and slot-in cards do. I love the mystery of uncovering stuff but having a super-rare item that you eat for no visible effect is no bueno. Food spoilers: The pepper increases your attack for a bit, and the vine increases your stamina regen for a bit. The manual page that covers items mentions this in English.
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Mar 20, 2022 04:41
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wow the boss of Eastern Vault  i love the art & sound design in this game so much
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Mar 20, 2022 04:44
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I am really enjoying this game! The puzzles, the difficulty and progression is incredibly well balanced, at least for my broken brain. It's a perfect blend of Zelda and Fez.
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Mar 20, 2022 06:22
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Queer Salutations posted:Oh cool, spent over 20 hours in the last few days on this and it's easily one of the best games I've ever played. It is laser targeted at my interests but still. It was a real eye opener when I realized what I had to do to solve it, except for that one part, where I got lucky I read a mild spoiler elsewhere, or I might have been stuck for a while.
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Mar 20, 2022 06:58
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Queer Salutations posted:Oh cool, spent over 20 hours in the last few days on this and it's easily one of the best games I've ever played. It is laser targeted at my interests but still. Yeah this is maybe my favorite video game puzzle I've ever encountered lol. It's magical.
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Mar 20, 2022 07:38
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ymgve posted:It was a real eye opener when I realized what I had to do to solve it, except for that one part, where I got lucky I read a mild spoiler elsewhere, or I might have been stuck for a while. I was just about to put the game down for the day (for the like 3rd time yesterday...) when it hit me like a bolt of goddamn lightning and then I spent god knows how long working it out. glad to hear everyone else seems to love that puzzle too because god drat. who would have thought my heart would be pounding from putting in a like 50 direction long contra code lmfao
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Mar 20, 2022 13:04
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bells ringed what do next
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Mar 20, 2022 13:54
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Hwurmp posted:bells ringed Go north to the sealed temple, its got the big gold doors.
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Mar 20, 2022 14:02
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Hwurmp posted:bells ringed Real Tunic starts here. There's a ladder off to the side in the big temple you unlocked by ringing the bells, head up there to unlock several new paths. You've got 3 different big areas you can tackle in any order -- based on enemy difficulty, the one to the east is probably the easiest to do first, but I had success bouncing between all 3 to acquire upgrades. Pay close attention to manual page 24 which if I recall correctly is in plain sight as you're exiting the temple, the mechanic it shows you is extremely important.
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Mar 20, 2022 14:13
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I'd been back to the temple doors, but not close enough for the button prompt  Thanks
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Mar 20, 2022 14:15
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Beat the game, true ending. Major spoilers for multiple parts of the game follow, don't read unless similar: I'm kind of a completionist so I put off fighting the final boss until I'd done everything else I could think of. Turns out if you get the full manual you straight up don't get the fight, which is kinda lame. Ended up getting all the fairies and missing like 2 secret treasures. Never figured out a single word in the secret language besides associating symbols for the cardinal puzzle. I only needed to look up the solution to one fairy puzzle (the one with the water reflections) because even though I knew what to do for some reason my brain couldn't parse it correctly. Completing the mountain door puzzle was incredibly fun and the entire time I was nervous I had missed an input somewhere. Overall I think the game is very good, but it does sort of lose its luster in the back half, as it introduces this whole dark realm and regaining your stats but it's just for like maybe 4 or 5 enemies and the final boss... Plus the way dark phazon is everywhere makes it really obvious how to progress, besides the sneaky teleporter back to the first forest. Generally the early bits are by far the strongest, when you're just stumbling around blindly and desperate for manual pages but by the end the game does reveal its limited scope in a sort of disappointing way. Still very good though!
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Mar 20, 2022 15:16
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i really do not like when games don't return your consumables if you cark it  as if i didn't have a hard enough time overcoming giant robotic crab syndrome Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Mar 20, 2022 |
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Mar 20, 2022 15:30
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Ciaphas posted:i really do not like when games don't return your consumables if you cark it If you use them enough eventually you get some free respawning stock. It's kinda weird that it works like that, honestly.
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Mar 20, 2022 15:35
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that's good to know but i'm stuck now damnit
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Mar 20, 2022 15:36
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I think the respawning stock is for overuse of the three bomb types only, else I'd have about a kabillion free blue berries by now. Kinda sad that the Zelda part of the game ended at about 10 hours with the bad ending, and now I'm on the Fez/La Mulana part of squinting at things trying to find secrets as simply playing the game no longer yields content. I did buy the game due to the demo and was hoping for more Zelda. Sigh. There is also no universe in which I will decypher the script, did it once for Fez when it was a simple find-and-replace and having to agonizingly translate everything by hand was not a good reward. I'll keep tinkering around and see if I can find any more fairies, but I suspect I'll have to shelf the game until a wiki is up with a translation. Also thanks for the tip about using the thingie Queer Salutations, but that also bugs me since I'm 100% sure it was not interactable earlier in the game.
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Mar 20, 2022 16:55
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Ciaphas posted:that's good to know but i'm stuck now damnit so, like, I had trouble with that boss at first but there's literally no reason not to just...walk away and try later. go check out that golden tile right before the save point if you haven't yet. go explore more, you might be missing out on some tools or stats that could make that a lot more doable. Serephina posted:There is also no universe in which I will decypher the script, did it once for Fez when it was a simple find-and-replace and having to agonizingly translate everything by hand was not a good reward. I'll keep tinkering around and see if I can find any more fairies, but I suspect I'll have to shelf the game until a wiki is up with a translation. Also thanks for the tip about using the thingie Queer Salutations, but that also bugs me since I'm 100% sure it was not interactable earlier in the game. good news! you can get the good ending without translating a single character of the manual, and in fact there's only 1 puzzle that asks you to do so and it's the very last one! these spoilers are for people who aren't at the point where Serephina is right now, Serephina should read this!: you don't actually need to get all the spirits! the hidden treasures are only for, like, postgame ARG type stuff and while I LIKED them, don't feel like you're missing out on anything by not doing them. Your good end is behind 100% manual completion, and you only need to get 10 faeries for that (and page 48 DOES track your progress). Once you're only missing 1 page, there's nothing left to do but walk the golden path.
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Mar 20, 2022 17:17
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Game owns so far. What do the wall tiles like these signify? They're clearly all different, and look mappy to me, but unless that poo poo gets spelled out clearly at some point might as well spoiler it cause I'm not figuring it out.
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Mar 20, 2022 22:13
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Game owns so far. What do the wall tiles like these signify? They're clearly all different, and look mappy to me, but unless that poo poo gets spelled out clearly at some point might as well spoiler it cause I'm not figuring it out. Don't think your screenshot posted but if it's the line patterns I think they are, they're properly introduced late in the game. When they are, what they do is spelled out pretty clearly.
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Mar 20, 2022 22:25
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Game owns so far. What do the wall tiles like these signify? They're clearly all different, and look mappy to me, but unless that poo poo gets spelled out clearly at some point might as well spoiler it cause I'm not figuring it out. You don't show what you're talking about
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Mar 20, 2022 22:26
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ah gently caress this stuff
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Managed the first three bosses easy enough, didn't need more than two attempts for any of them, but this Boss Scavenger is slaughtering me. And by me, I mean my hands. I think every joint and tendon I have in those is on fire. Looks like I've more or less run the map out of upgrade items, too. I think I might have to actually learn this guy's timings.  More generally: I'm kind of annoyed that they didn't fully commit to the gimmick. I don't think the game actually needs any of the English text it has.
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Mar 20, 2022 23:38
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The Zelda part of this game is really good. The Fez part of this game is probably good if you like Fez. I don't have the patience so I'm probably stopping now that I've gotten the first ending.
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Mar 21, 2022 00:07
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:More generally: I'm kind of annoyed that they didn't fully commit to the gimmick. I don't think the game actually needs any of the English text it has.
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