Big Beef City posted:

*busts down wall to get into the thread as audience hoots and titters*
"Hey everybody, ah, hah, ho, ya, so ah, I see I'm not too late then, to ah, just wedge in a dig at Catholics on this topic?"

*applause sign flashing crowd standing and screaming, loving it*

naem posted:

BigBadSteve posted:

It wasn't a dig at Catholics, it was specifically a dig at the Catholic church's orphanages in Ireland last century in my post here (I try to always be very careful with labels). The nuns in them really did kill a whole lot of babies, who were perfectly healthy when they were taken (literally abducted from single mothers sometimes "for their own good") to those orphanages, largely through starvation. And they covered up the deaths. I saw a shocking documentary about it recently. It left quite an impression on me.

A dig at any institution's most regrettable actions through history is not IMO unnecessary, as those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it. And, from what I saw in the documentary, even bringing the aforementioned abuses/child killings to light at all has been quite the journey, and I'm sure many of an institutional bent would like to bury it again, so to speak, fast.

I have nothing against the 1.3 billion Roman Catholics on the planet currently (count 'em!) generally, or those of the past or future. God bless them all. Even the Pope. I've met and know many nice ones (Catholics not Popes). Well maybe not "God bless child abusers and their excusers/protectors" though. Jesus himself foretold extremely dark (and deserved!) judgements for them. But anyway God chooses who He'll bless, not me. And of course abusers have always been a small minority of Catholics.

Just clarifying where I was coming from, whether you believe it or not, Beef. Due notice: I don't wish to, and will not, enter into debate with non-Christians justifying my religious belief on an internet forum because in my experience it's an absolute waste of time. This is not a comment on your own beliefs.

And fwiw it's not unusual for me to jump into threads without reading much of them with a quick post if I see the opportunity for a good joke, my Rap Sheet attests to that. What is a "good joke" is of course a matter of opinion. Sorry you didn't get a laugh.


tldr: Professor BigBadSteve explains the joke.

BigBadSteve posted:

It wasn't a dig at Catholics, it was specifically a dig at the Catholic church's orphanages in Ireland last century in my post here (I try to always be very careful with labels). The nuns in them really did kill a whole lot of babies, who were perfectly healthy when they were taken (literally abducted from single mothers sometimes "for their own good") to those orphanages, largely through starvation. And they covered up the deaths. I saw a shocking documentary about it recently. It left quite an impression on me.

A dig at any institution's most regrettable actions through history is not IMO unnecessary, as those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it. And, from what I saw in the documentary, even bringing the aforementioned abuses/child killings to light at all has been quite the journey, and I'm sure many of an institutional bent would like to bury it again, so to speak, fast.

I have nothing against the 1.3 billion Roman Catholics on the planet currently (count 'em!) generally, or those of the past or future. God bless them all. Even the Pope. I've met and know many nice ones (Catholics not Popes). Well maybe not "God bless child abusers and their excusers/protectors" though. Jesus himself foretold extremely dark (and deserved!) judgements for them. But anyway God chooses who He'll bless, not me. And of course abusers have always been a small minority of Catholics.

Just clarifying where I was coming from, whether you believe it or not, Beef. Due notice: I don't wish to, and will not, enter into debate with non-Christians justifying my religious belief on an internet forum because in my experience it's an absolute waste of time. This is not a comment on your own beliefs.

And fwiw it's not unusual for me to jump into threads without reading much of them with a quick post if I see the opportunity for a good joke, my Rap Sheet attests to that. What is a "good joke" is of course a matter of opinion. Sorry you didn't get a laugh.


tldr: Professor BigBadSteve explains the joke.

BigBadSteve posted:

It wasn't a dig at Catholics, it was specifically a dig at the Catholic church's orphanages in Ireland last century in my post here (I try to always be very careful with labels). The nuns in them really did kill a whole lot of babies, who were perfectly healthy when they were taken (literally abducted from single mothers sometimes "for their own good") to those orphanages, largely through starvation. And they covered up the deaths. I saw a shocking documentary about it recently. It left quite an impression on me.

A dig at any institution's most regrettable actions through history is not IMO unnecessary, as those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it. And, from what I saw in the documentary, even bringing the aforementioned abuses/child killings to light at all has been quite the journey, and I'm sure many of an institutional bent would like to bury it again, so to speak, fast.

I have nothing against the 1.3 billion Roman Catholics on the planet currently (count 'em!) generally, or those of the past or future. God bless them all. Even the Pope. I've met and know many nice ones (Catholics not Popes). Well maybe not "God bless child abusers and their excusers/protectors" though. Jesus himself foretold extremely dark (and deserved!) judgements for them. But anyway God chooses who He'll bless, not me. And of course abusers have always been a small minority of Catholics.

Just clarifying where I was coming from, whether you believe it or not, Beef. Due notice: I don't wish to, and will not, enter into debate with non-Christians justifying my religious belief on an internet forum because in my experience it's an absolute waste of time. This is not a comment on your own beliefs.

And fwiw it's not unusual for me to jump into threads without reading much of them with a quick post if I see the opportunity for a good joke, my Rap Sheet attests to that. What is a "good joke" is of course a matter of opinion. Sorry you didn't get a laugh.


tldr: Professor BigBadSteve explains the joke.

Bad Purchase posted:

you can't bring up the catholic church's history of systematic baby murder itt unless you can find a billboard about it

post the billboard and it's fair game, them's the rules

Bad Purchase posted:

put it on a billboard and you can use it. it's a pretty simple loophole really.

precision posted:

i'm just messing around, i think it's a good idea to accelerate maturity whenever possible. its frankly a tremendous waste and a boffo size capitalism sin to have kids be infantilized for so long. yeah yeah, this creates more money circulation in the short term by making a child a net loss for a household, but it neglects the long term benefits of initiating them into the workforce ASAP - something which, perforce, necessitates a basic grasp of all facets of mature Adult Capitalist Unit life, including reproduction

Big Beef City posted:

What if it's less of a billboard and more of a 'I was raised protestant but then became an angry internet atheist as an adult but I remember my aunt talking some crazy as poo poo about them Catholics which I never really bothered to even read Wikipedia about because gently caress did you see how long that article is? I ain't reading that. Anyhow I here they molest kids and pray to the pope and the statues is magic and poo poo or whatever it's basically satanic witchcraft anyhow that's what my aunt told me back before I figured out the REAL truth that god is fake as hell bro'

Can I use that or what because that seems like a common argument and thing that I see a lot is that good?

Hammerite posted:

"if anyone disapproves of nuns starving and abusing irish children, it is because they are an angry internet atheist and probably wearing a fedora"

Animal-Mother posted:

What's with the Irish and abject misery? They sure do love that poo poo. Can't get enough of it.

Hammerite posted:

"if anyone disapproves of nuns starving and abusing irish children, it is because they are an angry internet atheist and probably wearing a fedora"

Yaldabaoth posted:

In my defense, there are people on the far left who do think everything goes when it comes to sexual education regardless of age.

Bad Purchase posted:

you can't bring up the catholic church's history of systematic baby murder itt unless you can find a billboard about it

post the billboard and it's fair game, them's the rules

wankel13b posted:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wdbs3lKEeBE

I am not personally gay, but I support Scawt Tawmpson.

Brother Tadger posted:

Oh no, do you think the pope is okay? Has anyone checked?

The Bloop posted:

If you ever find yourself, unprompted, saying "Jordan Peterson is right, actually...." Just don't.

If you have a point to make and can't make it any other way it's not a good point

Yaldabaoth posted:

He's wrong because humans should rise above the laws of nature instead of following them just because we're programmed to think that following the laws of nature is "good".

Yaldabaoth posted:

He's wrong because humans should rise above the laws of nature instead of following them just because we're programmed to think that following the laws of nature is "good".

The Bloop posted:

I honestly am not sure what you're getting at because all of this reads like redpill gibberish to me

Yaldabaoth posted:

Discriminating against trans people is bad but bigots think discriminating against trans people is good because the bigots' brains are neurologically hardwired to discriminate against minorities.

Big Beef City posted:

Guess you can't fault them for it then and that'd make you biologically superior to them since you're clearly not bigoted.

Imagine that, after all this you're claiming biological superiority over others.

Colonel Cancer posted:

Overriding biological programming sure sounds like gay straight conversion camps

Yaldabaoth posted:

Humans are still sapient and should use their sapience to override their biological programming.

Yaldabaoth posted:

Humans are still sapient and should use their sapience to override their biological programming.

Earwicker posted:

transphobia, homophobia and other forms of bigotry are not "biological programming". they are learned and reinforced by culture, not innate or biological

Earwicker posted:

transphobia, homophobia and other forms of bigotry are not "biological programming". they are learned and reinforced by culture, not innate or neurological